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COMING POLICE STATE
Fiedor Report On the News #305 ^ | 3-9-03 | Ron Paul

Posted on 03/08/2003 9:29:27 AM PST by forest

[NOTE: This text was first published in the March 7, 1997 newsletter. It was an important message in 1997, but seems even more important today.]

Last week we gave Rep. Ron Paul's toll-free Legislative Update number (1-888-322-1414) and suggested that readers listen to his message "The Coming Police State." We were told by a lot of people that they missed it.

Originally, that message was part of a one hour speech Rep. Paul made on the floor of the House. And, thanks to Jeff in Michigan, we have the complete text. Below is the shortened version of Rep. Paul's speech recorded as the "Legislative Update:"

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Centralizing power and consistently expanding the role of the Government requires an army of bureaucrats and a taxing authority upon which a police state thrives. There are over 100 laws on the books permitting private property seizure without due process of law. We have made it easy to seize any property by absurdly claiming the property itself committed the crime. The RICO mentality relating to law enforcement permits even the casual bystander to suffer severely from the police state mentality.

The drug war hysteria and the war on gun ownership started by Roosevelt in 1934 have expanded Federal police power to the point that more than 10 percent of all of our police are Federal. The Constitution names but three Federal crimes, so where is the justification? Talk about swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out their substance. We have hovering over us daily the Federal police from the EPA, OSHA, FBI, CIA, DEA, EEOC, ADA, F&WL, INS, BATF, and worst of all, the IRS. Even criticizing the IRS makes me cringe that it might precipitate an audit. It seems that all administrations, to some degree, used the power of the agencies to reward or punish financial backers or political enemies.

So much [of] that had its origin in the 1930's, it was then that the FBI's role changed from friendly investigator helping local authorities to that of national police force.

We live in an age where the fear of an IRS registered letter bearing news of an audit surpasses the fear of a street mugging. The police are supposed to be our friend and the Federal Government the guarantor of our liberties. Ask the blacks in the inner city of Los Angeles if they trust the police and revere the FBI and the CIA. We should not have to cringe when a Federal agent appears at the door of our business. We should not even see them there.

A Congress sworn to uphold the Constitution ought to be protecting our right to our property, not confiscating it. Congress ought to protect our right to own a weapon of self-defense, not systematically and viciously attacking that right.

Congress ought to guarantee all voluntary association, not regulate and dictate every economic transaction. We should not allow Congress to give credence to inane politically correct rules generated by egalitarian misfits. Setting quotas ought to insult each of us.

We need no more centralized police efforts. We need no more wiretaps that have become epidemic in this last decade. We have had enough Wacos and Ruby Ridges.

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<http://www.house.gov/paul>

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To: Roscoe
Plain sight searches have never required a warrant.

      Isn't "plain sight search" a contradiction in terms?  If something is in plain sight, no search is needed.
261 posted on 03/09/2003 10:37:25 PM PST by Celtman
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus
There is no law on the books making "certain" speech - outside of conspiracy- illegal.

      How about the Campaign Finance Reform Act?  As I understand it, this act makes certain political speech illegal before a Federal election.
262 posted on 03/09/2003 10:42:09 PM PST by Celtman
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To: nopardons; RazedInChaos
The president doesn't have a line item veto ! The Congress won't write one that any president wants.

IIRC, the Republican Congress passed one and President Clinton tried to use it; but the Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional.

It would be necessary to pass a Constitutional amendment to get the line item veto back.

263 posted on 03/10/2003 4:34:23 AM PST by patriciaruth
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To: feinswinesuksass
The nuclear weapon problem is not the only problem. The real problem for libertarians is the "fact-value" problem. But hey, answer the Gunga Diner problem first before we get to that.
264 posted on 03/10/2003 7:19:05 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: artisan001
There are people who eat human placenta. Should there be laws against that?

Uhhh...yes. Is that controversial?

265 posted on 03/10/2003 7:23:13 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: Kevin Curry
Defending cannibalism now? LOL!

I recently got OrthodoxPresbyterian to defend the placing of a 16' x 20' billboard of simulated child pornography in his next door neigbors' front yard.

Libertarianism is a pretty tough virus, you know.

266 posted on 03/10/2003 7:25:17 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: HumanaeVitae
Shazzam.

Not that OrthodoxPresbyterian believes simulated child pornography is a good thing. It is a most horrible thing he zealously defends that he does not support.

267 posted on 03/10/2003 7:29:25 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: RazedInChaos
"They always get twisted and contorted when you pick apart their logic."

I get twisted? Really? Hey, how about a Polish sausage from the Gunga Diner? When we say Polish sausage, we mean Polish sausage...

How about it, razed? Do people have a right to voluntary cannibalism?

268 posted on 03/10/2003 7:36:19 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: RazedInChaos
I'm not conceding anything.

Razed, I recommend you don't debate me. You're going to lose badly. You're going to become very, very well acquainted with something called the fact-value problem...

269 posted on 03/10/2003 7:38:43 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: RazedInChaos
I agree.......

You are illogical.

270 posted on 03/10/2003 7:45:02 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: Roscoe
Silly example. For stealing he would need to serve time & make restitution. The restitiution is made from the sale of the car if the money cannot be recovered. The "John" has stolen nothing, it is his car. All the law requires is that he pay a fine. The fine is usually a few hundred dollars. This confiscation of cars for a few hundred dollars is outright theft.

I am shocked at how many FREEpers are so gung-ho to take others property for minor infractions. It is friggin scary.
271 posted on 03/10/2003 11:58:29 AM PST by Feiny
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To: exodus
BTTT
272 posted on 03/10/2003 12:00:08 PM PST by Tauzero
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To: HumanaeVitae
Gunga diner? As far as retarded hypothesis go, that one takes the cake. How many people do you really think this example would appy to....one or two kooks? But, if you really want an answer...here ya go. This is my personal opinion and I am not a libertarian.....I vote republican. If someone chooses to sell their dead body to cannibals of their own free will...I have no problem with that. Who is it hurting and whose rights are infringed?
273 posted on 03/10/2003 12:02:59 PM PST by Feiny
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To: feinswinesuksass
How many people do you really think this example would appy to....one or two kooks?

Just so that everybody's on the same page, there's a reason it would apply to only one or two kooks, at least in our culture. It's because there are laws against it. Yes, it's also true that it's because there's widespread social revulsion at such a thing, but that by itself isn't going to deter certain people. In fact, in many cases it would encourage them. And as more people engage in it, the harder it would be for social pressure alone to keep it in check. The law serves as a reinforcement on social mores, a quite necessary one too.

274 posted on 03/10/2003 12:14:32 PM PST by inquest
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To: feinswinesuksass
For stealing he would need to serve time & make restitution.

And if he didn't have any cash left for his victims, would he get to keep the car he had purchased with the illegally obtained money?

take others property for minor infractions.

Minor infractions? Changing your tune already?

278 posted on 03/10/2003 1:25:17 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: RazedInChaos
It was tempting to just report you as an "abuse"

But you knew such a fraudulent abuse report would be ignored by the moderators.

279 posted on 03/10/2003 1:29:27 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Kevin Curry; HumanaeVitae; OrthodoxPresbyterian
I recently got OrthodoxPresbyterian to defend the placing of a 16' x 20' billboard of simulated child pornography in his next door neigbors' front yard.
Libertarianism is a pretty tough virus, you know.
266 posted on 03/10/2003 7:25 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: HumanaeVitae
Shazzam.
Not that OrthodoxPresbyterian believes simulated child pornography is a good thing. It is a most horrible thing he zealously defends that he does not support.
267 -KC-

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It galls me to see pitiful little cowards lie.
280 posted on 03/10/2003 2:23:32 PM PST by tpaine
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