Posted on 03/04/2003 9:19:17 AM PST by kattracks
Ex-president Bill Clinton is claiming that the Bush White House turned to him in April 2001 to help solve the crisis prompted by China's downing of a U.S. surveillance plane over the South China Sea - and that the Bush administration would use him more except for the objections of "right wingers."
"The Administration's only asked me to do two things," Clinton tells the Atlantic Monthly for its March issue. "One is to go to East Timor, which I was happy to do. The other was to talk to Jiang Zemin. Both of us happened to be in Hong Kong, and we had that plane down in China."
At the time the Bush White House said Clinton had set up the meeting with China's leader without seeking permission. "The White House respects [Clinton's] right to go as a private citizen and expressed no objection. ... He's not representing anything," Press Secretary Ari Fleischer told reporters.
But the ex-president not only insisted to Atlantic's James Fallows that he was asked to intercede during the spy plane standoff, he also maintained that the Bush White House would ask for his help more often except that they fear angering "right wingers."
"They have to be careful about that, because they depend on all those right wingers for support and they've spent ten years saying what terrible people Hillary and I were, and they've got to preserve their credibility. If they asked me to do too much they'd wonder if they didn't mean it then or don't mean it now."
Clinton claimed that in the past the Bush White House "didn't mean it" when they criticized him and did so only because "it was in the interests of so many people to do it."
Apparently stung by complaints from Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who said two weeks ago that he and ex-President Carter should "shut up" and stop trying to undermine the current administration with so much public criticism, Clinton defended his outspokenness.
"If and when [the Bush adminsitration does] things with which I disagree, particularly if they reverse a specific policy, as they did with the comprehensive test-ban treaty, Kyoto, international criminal court, strengthening the bioweapons convention, a number of other things then I don't think I have to go on the attack. I just have to say, This is their view, this is my view, here's why I believe the way I do. I don't think that's being hateful or bad for the country or anything else."
Clinton continued: "Even when I give these political speeches, almost in every speech I say, I don't want you ever to treat them the way they treated me. Don't do it."
He also said that the United States has a lot to answer for in the current crisis over Iraq, since the Reagan administration backed Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s.
"We have a lot to answer for, and he is basically partly our creature," Clinton argued, pointing to U.S. actions under the Reagan administration, which he said "looked the other way" as Saddam built stockpiles of anthrax.
"I'm not criticizing President Bush on this because I did the same thing. I've sat there and pontificated about how [Saddam] is the only guy to use chemical weapons on his own people. Yeah he did it, and the Reagan Administration was for him when he did it. Nobody raised a peep then, because he was against Iran. We now know that he got his anthrax strain from an American company while we looked the other way."
Clinton also cited an unsubstantiated report claiming that the Reagan administration CIA director, the late William Casey, wanted to arm Saddam with U.S. munitions, saying, "We also know that, or at least a British journalist has alleged that, Casey tried to give him cluster bombs."
The ex-president then quickly added, "I don't know if that's true or not 'cause I read it in the British press and you never can tell."
Last month former Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger vehemently denied that the Reagan administration tried to arm Iraq during the late 1980s.
"We didn't treat them to weapons or anything of that kind," Weinberger told radio host Sean Hannity. "Some of our companies tried to do that. Some of them probably violated our export control rules. But we in the government certainly did not. And we certainly tried our best to prevent them from getting any weapons on either side."
As for the coming U.S. attack on Iraq, Clinton said he would condition his support on whether he believes the Bush administration has done everything it can to gain the support of other countries, telling Atlantic, "I will support the President if I believe he has done everything reasonably possible to build not ... not only to build a broader coalition but to do it within a framework of trying to strengthen the UN."
But Clinton urged the Bush administration to keep trying to make Iraq sanctions work rather than rushing into any military action, arguing that Saddam Hussein is "not going to live forever."
"I think we have to try to give the sanctions one more chance. He's not going to live forever, there are options for regime change short of bombing the living daylights out of them. And we know that these ... we know that the inspectors have gotten a ton of stuff out of there."
Clinton said that continuing the inspections effort "will bring us together."
Read more on this subject in related Hot Topics:
China/Taiwan
Clinton Scandals
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I hope they don't because if they do, it gives him the importance and credibility that he delusionally believes are his due. Better to let him fester on the side of the road, just like the piece of dogclinton that he is.
Bah. He wouldn't even make a decent one of these:
Screw her. I'll never forget (or forgive) the pack of self-serving (and Hitlery-serving) lies she told in "Talk" magazine -- her fantasies of having been near the WTC when the south tower collapsed. She squatted and took a dump on the graves of nearly 2800 people whose friends and families could only dream that their loved ones were as far from the WTC as she was that morning.
On a more personal level, I know that my father would have much preferred that I was where she was that morning, so that he wouldn't have had to spend a few hours fearing that I was dead or dying in the streets of lower Manhattan.
If you missed it, check out the word count in msg #117.
I never cared one way or the other about her, and actually felt kind of sorry for her -- until she published that self-serving drivel. As far as I'm concerned, she is as evil and self-absorbed as her parents.
I'll try to dig out the article later and post some of the lowlights.
Glibness/superficial charm
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Tendency to boredom/need for stimulation
Pathological lying
Conning/manipulative behaviour
Lack of remorse
Shallow affect (monotone voice and blank facial expression)
Lack of empathy
Parasitic lifestyle
Poor behavioural controls
Promiscuous sexual behaviour
Behavioural problems early in life
Lack of realistic long-term plans
Impulsiveness
Irresponsible behaviour
Failure to accept the consequences of actions
Many marital relationships
Juvenile delinquency
Callousness
Criminal versatility
I thought it was alot of fun to pick out the particular traits that apply to Bill Clinton. I spotted sixteen of them right off the bat with no problem at all.
http://www.hench.net/2001/z110901b.htm
http://www.sptimes.com/News/111101/Worldandnation/Chelsea_Clinton_speak.shtml
http://www.caller2.com/2001/november/10/today/national/17387.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/533344/posts
If you want me to refute specific parts of her fiction piece, just let me know. I take pleasure in pointing out her hideous lies.
It turns out it was an "pity" mission to thrown to Clinton to make him feel wanted which was in no danger of affection geo-politics.
But of course if you feed a stray dog, it'll keep following you around hoping for another handout.
And we apparently only have Clinton's word thathe was "asked" to interfere with Jiang Zeman.
Does this man not know how stupid he sounds? Are grunts running around him bolstering his obvious stupidity and lack of statesmanship with coos of false support?
Klinton is in bad need of a good friend who will tell him like it really is. This crazy, out of control, legacy seeking, characterless perjurer and rapist is digging a great big hole.
You know, I truly believe he's aware of it or he wouldn't be so self-defensive and attempt to rewrite history. I marvel that President Bush takes all the negative accusatory fingers pointed by democraps with a grain. Here is a man very comfortable in his own skin and needn't prove or disapprove the slings and arrows.
Mia, did you read this tripe?
I plan on outlasting him, but I *do* want him to live a long, healthy life -- so that he can see his TRUE LEGACY stuck to him like presidue on Monica's blue dress.
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