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Snubbing Turkey--State Department missteps played a part in Saturday’s embarrassing vote.
National Review ^ | 3-3-03 | Joel Mowbray

Posted on 03/03/2003 8:04:12 AM PST by SJackson

The Turkish parliament's failure this weekend to approve the basing of U.S. troops made headlines around the world, but the unreported backstory is how officials at the U.S. State Department have their fingerprints all over the mess in Ankara. With the margin of defeat so narrow — a mere four votes shy of a simple majority — State's unfortunate diplomacy in the past few months likely made the difference.

Winning the support of Turkey for any Iraq invasion was the State Department's job and now many in the White House are wondering what went wrong. Turkey has been a reluctant, but willing, partner during four months of negotiations. Media reports, however, pegged Turkey as attempting to be bought off by the U.S. for supporting an Iraqi invasion. That was one of the key problems.

News accounts airing details of the supposedly secret negotiations made Turkey's leadership look driven almost solely by money. "The leaks made Turkey look like a prostitute," complains one Turkish official. Part of this anger stems from the fact that the leaks claiming Turkey was still shaking down the U.S. for more money continued even after the economic issues had been agreed upon and taken off the table.

While the source of leaks can never be known for certain, but officials at both State and the Pentagon insist that the leaks were part of a coordinated campaign by State to strong-arm Turkey. If so, the tactic backfired.

But the leaks were only part of the problem. People familiar with the political scene in Turkey — as much as 90 percent of the public opposes war with Iraq — knew for months before Saturday that the vote in the parliament would be tight. In an effort to build more support among the Turkish military, the Pentagon wanted to send a delegation to Turkey in November. State refused. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage was adamant that the Pentagon not encroach on State's turf, and the military meeting was scuttled.

In fairness to the State Department, dealing with the Turkish leadership is not an easy task. Most of the members of the ruling Justice and Development Party lack the sophistication found in more seasoned governments. One Defense Department official who is an avid supporter of Turkey comments that Saturday's vote is a sign that it is "amateur hour" in the Turkish government. Further complicating matters, the top spot in the Turkish government is likely changing hands in a week, when the head of the Justice and Development Party, Tayyip Erdogan, becomes eligible for the prime-minister slot (which he will likely move into).

Erdogan supported the failed resolution, but changing leadership is a process that can take up to two weeks. Although some wire stories Sunday indicated that the Turkish parliament would not take up the resolution when it reconvenes Tuesday, Turkish officials insist that it could be voted on again this week. If that doesn't happen, though, the timetable could stretch out for an extra week or two as the new leadership is installed.

Discussions about a follow-up vote in parliament might have been moot if State had handled itself differently — in Iraq. According to a Turkish official, one of the items that members of the parliament were angriest about was the exclusion of Turkish-backed individuals from the leadership of the Iraqi opposition.

In a meeting Friday in Northern Iraq, six leaders were selected — including one backed by Iran and another who is popular with Saudi Arabia — but the leader of the group representing Iraq's sizeable Turkoman population was merely promised a position on some unspecified committee. The move puzzled many in the Bush administration. "State warmly embraced the Supreme Council of the Islamic Revolution (backed by Tehran) and went out of its way to keep Saudi Arabia happy, but then they decided to screw our ally," complains a Defense Department official.

It is unclear exactly how many votes were swayed by the previous day's snub in northern Iraq, but considering the resolution only failed by four votes out of 534 members present, State's actions there could have been the difference. Either way, it is a sore spot for many in the Bush administration — some of whom think the State Department angering Turkey was no accident. Notes a Defense Department official familiar with the Iraqi opposition groups: "Many top officials at State don't want to go to war in Iraq. State knew the politics of the situation, yet they excluded the group backed by Turkey right as the Turkish parliament was voting on the resolution. It makes you wonder: Is State trying to undermine the president?"

— Joel Mowbray is an NRO contributor and a Townhall.com columnist.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: powellwatch; turkey; usa; warlist
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To: MizSterious
I wonder how many Clinton holdovers still work there?

You have put your finger on the problem with the state department as well as with all other branches of government.

21 posted on 03/03/2003 8:39:33 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: a_Turk
Thank you so much for the heads up!

Asinine, this whole thing. Someone is trying to screw both of us...

I believe you are correct, and the culprit appears to be our State Department like the article says. There are waaaay too many missteps for this not to be suspicious.

22 posted on 03/03/2003 8:42:30 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Uncle George
Yep. It was Turkey who screwed up big. In the end, we'll win our war without them, and they'll still be broke.
23 posted on 03/03/2003 8:42:36 AM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Wphile
I don't think Powell is trying to undermine the President at all -- I am with you that it starts from the lower levels who will do anything they can to sabotage anything Pres Bush wants.

I was just commenting that SoS Schultz was a real pleasure to watch at State. He did some housecleaning after Carter and would think that Powell needs to do some now!

Career diplomats these people are not -- more like clinton moles IMO!
24 posted on 03/03/2003 8:49:21 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: MizSterious
I wonder how many Clinton holdovers still work there?

Enough to screw things up.

25 posted on 03/03/2003 8:53:24 AM PST by bert (Don't Panic !)
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To: a_Turk
Even though Powell was very cordial, our FM's delegation complained that their treatment by State was humiliating.

That speaks volumes. My guess is that "amateur hour" goes both ways. I wonder if State was a little insulted that negotiations were still necessary, given that the US and UK went to the mat for Turkey in NATO just a few weeks ago. Still, the domestic political situation had to be considered.

Asinine, this whole thing. Someone is trying to screw both of us...

You've got that right. At first, it looks like the Turks just had their national pride wounded by CNN, but there seems to be a deliberate effort to anger the Turks. One cannot discount the fact that the ruling party's negotiators may have made negotiations difficult and the "abstentions" are more than a little suspicious to me, but we need better negotiators to heal this breach. Time to call in Rummy.

26 posted on 03/03/2003 9:01:22 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: SJackson
The State Department has done nothing but screw up since the whole Iraq situation started. They're the idiots who got us in the UN quagmire and now may have embaressed us in Turkey.
27 posted on 03/03/2003 9:02:42 AM PST by Sparta (ANSWER, the new Communist conspiracy for the twenty-first century)
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To: MizSterious
I wonder how many Clinton holdovers still work there?

It is not the Clinton apointees, it is the career Civil Service poeple that all need to be purged.

SO9

28 posted on 03/03/2003 9:03:54 AM PST by Servant of the Nine (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: Wphile; a_Turk; SJackson
If this article is true it is revenge against Rumsfeld, who went to Europe and acted like SoS instead of SoD and mucked things up the Gemrans and French. Did Rumsfled do this to undermine SoS Powell?

So did State muck up Turkey to make Rumsfeld jb harder?

29 posted on 03/03/2003 9:06:04 AM PST by Destro (Fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Servant of the Nine
from those that urged Kosovo and Bosnia on-fire the lot of them.
30 posted on 03/03/2003 9:07:56 AM PST by Destro (Fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: *war_list
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31 posted on 03/03/2003 9:11:49 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: SJackson
Rush is talking about this article right now.
32 posted on 03/03/2003 9:17:31 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (I heart "New" Europe!)
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To: dixiechick2000
Yes and he confirming what I said.
34 posted on 03/03/2003 9:18:45 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: dixiechick2000
I don't have access to radio nor tv right now. Would you be so kind as to relaying any relevant info or attitudes from Rush's programme?

Thanks.
35 posted on 03/03/2003 9:23:11 AM PST by a_Turk
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To: Dog Gone
"They may have blown it ... but it wasn't for the reason specified.

The Clintonistas win either way. They make the war more difficult. They embarass Bush and they increase the chance that Bush won't be reelected.

36 posted on 03/03/2003 9:23:19 AM PST by Truth29
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To: SJackson
In my opinion the state department is second only to INS in incompetece....They are infested with liberals, and give out visas like Halloween candy..
37 posted on 03/03/2003 9:24:55 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: a_Turk
Is there a realistic chance of a second (and successful) vote this week by Turkey? By guess is that they can't so soon without looking like they buckled to pressure. I'd appreciate your thoughts.
38 posted on 03/03/2003 9:26:03 AM PST by Ranger
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To: Just mythoughts
I didn't see your comment before now. Were you watching Turkey's Charge d'Affairs?

FWIW, I agree with your statement, too.;o)

39 posted on 03/03/2003 9:26:07 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (I heart "New" Europe!)
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To: a_Turk; Just mythoughts
He's agreeing with Just mythoughts post #15.
40 posted on 03/03/2003 9:29:25 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (I heart "New" Europe!)
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