"Open Doors and Open Windows. Silence About War With Islam"

ChronWatch ^ | Feb.25, 2003 | Robert Klein Engler

[Thorondir]

You are spinning your wheels, sir. It does no good to argue with the apologists for our nation's enemies.

Human civilization had better wake up soon and get as serious about its survival as the seventh-century savages of Islam are about our annihilation!
SLEEPING AMERICANS ARE EASIER TO KILL.
Do not be lulled to sleep by the Religion of Peace defenders.

Click here and never forget the face of Islam and what it wants for you infidels.

[Thorondir]

What is funniest about these people is how they claim that the mobs of the violent murderers of Islam are really not Muslims while insisting that the avowed atheist Timmothy McVeigh was a Christian when he bombed the Murrah building (and, even if he were, he didn't do it in the name of Christ and claim some big sex prize in heaven).

[SauronOfMordor]

Why don't you do a simple Google search and astound yourself at the media blackout on the condemnation.

Why don't you do the work and post the results? I've already gone through the trouble of posting quotes and links to back up my statements.

Also, putting up a weasel web statement read by nobody is not an effective counter to clerics in major mosques getting up and calling for the deaths of infidels.

[SauronOfMordor]

BTW, have you noticed that while we have been busy watching the whole war with Iraq thing play itself out on television, two MAJOR oil producing nations on OUR hemisphere have fallen under the control of communists?

At the moment, Iraq and the Islamofascists are the bigger worries. Iraq needs to be taken out, Iranian students encouraged to toss out the mullahs (better yet, hang them from the street lights of Tehran), and then it's on to Saudi and Pakistan. Lets not forget North Korea

Meanwhile, there's nothing better than a taste of Communism to immunize a country against it for decades afterward -- look at Chile after Allende. Venezuela will be dealt with at the proper time

[Luis Gonzalez]

You are the one working on faulty information when you made the statement about the lack of reaction to 9/11, one would imagine that this observation of yours came after...well, observing, not NOT observing.

And it's curious that even after admitting that you will not take the time to make damned sure that you are correct in your opinions, you begin the process of discrediting the sources of statements you have yet to read.

You wouldn't happen to have a predisposition on this subject, would you?

[Luis Gonzalez]

http://islam.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.unc.edu/%7Ekurzman/terror.htm

Granted, I did chuckle at the guy from Hamas signing one of the statements, but that was just one guy.

[Luis Gonzalez]

BTW, in spite of what some other poster may insinuate on this thread, I am no apologist, I want the people who attacked America found and destroyed. I am not however, interested in the promotion of the larger, darker agenda some others have of turning what is a basic power struggle, into a war of religions.

Some are trying to enlarge the problem to the point where we will not be able to zoom in on the actual people who perpetrate attacks opn the US.

You can always spot the ones with the agenda by their SPAM on threads.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Meanwhile, there's nothing better than a taste of Communism to immunize a country against it for decades afterward."

Spoken like someone who's never had a taste of it.

[Thorondir]

Heh, heh! This is a guy who constantly attacks Christianity as a religion of violence in his defense of iSLAM. He misinterprets OT texts of God's anger against specific people as the same as the Koran's blanket calls for the oppression or slaughter of every human being who is not a Mohammedan. Then he calls any evidence of iSLAMic atrocities and Koranic calls for violence as spam. What a joke.

Human civilization had better wake up soon and get as serious about its survival as the seventh-century savages of Islam are about our annihilation!
SLEEPING AMERICANS ARE EASIER TO KILL.
Do not be lulled to sleep by the Religion of Peace defenders.

Click here and never forget the face of Islam and what it wants for you infidels.

[RecentConvert]

Heh, heh! This is a guy who constantly attacks Christianity as a religion of violence in his defense of iSLAM.

Yes, he is. He's an enemy of Christianity and Western Culture and the American way of life. We're keeping an eye on him.

[ImpBill]

Both the author and you have it down, pat. Your few words really tell it like it is.

We are at one of those cataclysmic junctions in the history of mankind. The thing that presents the most angst and therefore willingness to stick ones head in the sand, is that no one has a clue on how this will turn our and most of us will be worm food before it does (turn out).

[ImpBill]

What is interesting is that the author of this article never mentions a war between religions (Christians against Muslims). That is a straw dog that others like to bring up to make it so.

The point is that Islam is and has been at war with the rest of the world since its inception as a socio/political/eccomic/religious philosophy, that feeds its poor followers with hatred rather than hope!

Thanks for bringing me to the thread. I enjoyed the authors words and Jim Noble's.

[Lijahsbubbe]

Thank you for continuously posting these pictures. I believe we may have sanitized the attacked sites too quickly.

Right after 911 there was a rally at the capital in my city. People showed up holding flags and unified in spirit at the outrage of this attack on our country.

How sad it was when we were met by our city and state leaders whose purpose was not to encourage our loyalty and spirit, but to douse the flame by giving speeches about diversity and how we should react. They did not encourage our strength as citizens of the U.S., but weakened us by focusing on our place in the global family. We left the rally, confused and saddened.

[Mark17]

In which Muslim country can a Christian safely stand on a street corner and preach that Mohammod was a false prophet, and that the only salvation comes through Jesus Christ?

You can't even do that in Turkey, which is much more moderate than other Islamic countries. I met a few Turkish Christians, but they survived by keeping to themselves.

[southland]

see later

[RobbyS]

Al-Qaeda is not one of those rootless ferns that grows on air, but the flower of a plant that has both branch and root in a wide and international Islamic culture. Unless we go to the root of the problem, we will suffer the bloom of numberless blossoms of terror. Today it is Al-Qaeda but tomorrow it will be another group born from the soil of Islam. The very nature of Islam has to change before we are free from this struggle.

Very prescient. Bush has been driven into a corner because he can't admit that Islam will not change. Today's radicalism is driven by what many acknowledge as "fundamentalism" but because they falsely think in terms of Christian fundamentalism they don't understand what that implies. Only the most radical Christian fundamentalists, like Koresh, think they are in direct contact with God's Word. But for all sincere Muslims, the Koran IS the Word of God, and the book on which the Holy Words are written is a sacrament. Cromwell was probably the last western leader who believed as the Taliban that he was God's warrior. He would have known what do do about them; he, like the leaders of the First Crusade.

. The very word "Crusade" shuts off the capacity of the average westerner to think clearly like a switch. He cannot imagine religion accepted absolutely. But we are in the midst of a renewal of the war between Islam and the Greco-Roman-Christian world that goes back to the 7th Century.