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"Open Doors and Open Windows. Silence About War With Islam"
ChronWatch ^ | Feb.25, 2003 | Robert Klein Engler

Posted on 02/25/2003 4:45:26 AM PST by conservativecorner

September 11th, 2002, came to the United States without another major catastrophe to lay at the feet of Al-Qaeda. The only near catastrophes were some of the memorials that flooded the country with confused sentiment and sometimes even vulgar displays. One cannot help but look with dismay at the glut of dead birds from a New Jersey ceremony and wonder what people were thinking when they decided to release these birds as a fitting memorial to the dead. The only ceremony I saw that had taste and dignity was in Britain. Flower petals falling from a chapel dome was as dignified as it was memorable. Americans seem doomed now to suffer a type of national repetition-compulsion every time September 11th comes around. Because we suffered a national trauma with the fall of the twin towers and have not yet figured out what it means, we will repeat the trauma again and again until meaning dulls it from our national unconscious.

Now, the debate about going to war with Iraq consumes the attention of the nations leaders and political commentators. The same lack of meaning about the events of September 11th, 2001 hover around this debate like a flock of vultures. The Democrats want to continue the war against the terrorists by going after Al-Qaeda and the Republicans want to invade Iraq with a preemptive strike. Both parties act like squabbling members of a dysfunctional family that have different points of view because they refuse to say what ought to be said. No one wants to admit that father is an irredeemable drunkard, so they argue over how best to pay his bounced checks. Instead of saying the truth we pretend another position and offer a solution to that. Just as the country refuses to say the truth about the events of September 11th, so now the political parties refuse to say the truth about the next step in our foreign policy. What is that truth our country and its politicians refuse to say? It is a very simple truth that most working class Americans already know. The truth is we are at war with Islam.

Once we see that the coming war with Islam is the defining moment of our age, then much that seems to exist in a fog comes into the light of day. The United States of America was attacked on September 11th, 2001 by the advanced forces of an Islamic army that is international in scope, global in its reach and representative of the Islamic world as a whole. We are not fighting a war on terror, but we are fighting, to the chagrin and dismay of Democrats and Republicans alike, a religious war against many nations. No one in high public office wants to admit this because their vested interest make it necessary to be silent. The Democrats do not want to face a religious war because the ideology of the party prevents it from being stated. Liberalism refuses to recognize that it has come up against practical limits. The political enterprise that began with the Enlightenment and the American and French Revolutions, the ideology that is at the core of the Democratic party, cannot imagine that a religious war will be the defining moment of the 21st century. Nor can the Republican party admit that we are at war with Islam. If the Democrats are made mute by their ideology, the Republicans are dumfounded by their economic interests. How can they admit a war with Islam when the fortunes of many in the party are tied to Islamic countries and their oil reserves? To declare war on Islam or to invade Saudi Arabia, would be to end the fortunes of many who fund the Republican party and have their fingers on foreign policy. Neither party speaks the truth for the country as a whole. They both hope their silence can buy a few more years of office and power. No one wants to take the drastic steps that a war with Islam requires. The very meaning of America and the integrity of our nation remains in the balance.

So, we have the two parties attempting to set a foreign policy that will never solve the problem. Unlike Columbus who believed the world to be round, our politicians after September 11th refuse to give up their beliefs in a foreign policy that is flat and meaningless. Our nation will never benefit from the truth not being spoken. The two political parties will protect, however, their constituency by not sailing off the edge of the earth. The Democrats will not abandon their minority interest groups and the Republicans will not abandon their wealthy businessmen, so we are to go into the future with a captain that neither tells us where we are sailing nor speaks the orders the sailors need to set the sails. Some say go after Al-Qaeda, other say invade Iraq. None say the future will be a war with Islam. The house of our country is wide open and all the politicians can do is to say that maybe if we close the window no one will notice they are coming through the door.

Anyone who undergoes military training knows that in war there is a difference between tactics and strategy. Tactics are the small steps we take on a longer, strategic journey. One platoon occupies a hill, another destroys an enemy ammunition dump by using fire and maneuver tactics. All of these small steps are part of a larger strategy that brings about the defeat of a nation’s army over the course of a protracted campaign. Sometimes, those who are involved in small unit tactics are unaware of the army’s larger strategy.

Up until now, both the Republicans and Democrats have been proposing tactics. Neither party has been forthcoming about a larger strategy to deal with the consequences of September 11th and a war with Islam. The Bush Administration's plans to invade Iraq is the closest thing we have to a tactic that is part of a larger, unspoken strategy. It is possible that some in the Bush Administration have concluded that indeed we are at war with Islam, and even though we cannot say that, we can plan a strategy for it. The events of September 11th, 2001 can be seen as an attack equal to the Japanese attack of Pearl Harbor. The only reason we have a “war on terrorists” is because the politicians are reluctant to say the truth about the matter. Attacking Iraq may be the first utterance of a truth that has up until now stuck in our political throat. We already have troops on the ground in Afghanistan and are building up troops and supplies elsewhere in the middle east. Defeating Iraq and disarming Sadam Hussein will send a message to the rest of the Islamic world and will divide that world geographically in half. It will then be possible to pick off one at a time other Islamic governments. Over the long run, this could be a strategy that will defeat Islam without such a defeat being outspoken. Eventually, Saudi Arabia will fall to American power if this strategy is going to succeed.

The defeat or transformation of a world religion is no easy task. Our ultimate strategy may have to be geographical containment and national limitations imposed upon the number of Muslims living in the United States. I suppose this is an unconscious fear many European politicians have as well. In some countries like France, Muslims make up a significant part of the population. Thus, many Europeans prefer to do nothing. Yet doing nothing will not avail because the Muslim world is on the move and they will act out their resentment and dislike of the West no matter what we do. “Why can't we all get along?” will seem a naive question when the first terrorist A-bomb explodes in some western city. We can't get along because under present historical conditions some ways of life are mutually exclusive. This is why there are nations and why mighty nations have well guarded borders.

By defining our national crisis as a war with Islam we go a long way to assessing our foreign and domestic policies. Furthermore, we will have to deal with nagging problems like our porous borders, the crisis in American education and corporations, and the decay of our national culture. Needless to say, these problems will engender a debate about just what it means to be an American. This is something the patriotic working class has been expecting for a long time. Many in the American working class have strong religious values, and have watched with dismay the abuses of Affirmative Action and greedy corporate executives. The working class is patriotic to a fault and is disappointed that the American dream has been stretched thin abroad and abused at home. Their unrecognized sacrifice and patriotism makes one wonder if the “new America,” with its class of wealthy transnationals, Affirmative Action bureaucrats, self-serving politicians, incestuous corporate boards, illegal immigrants and alienated youth can survive the conflict to come. When a country’s values become as porous as its borders, who can stop the storm of true believers from invading. A screen may stop the flies, but not the wind.

Only a foreign and domestic policy that recognizes the coming war with Islam can make a difference in our national security and prosperity. “Yet how can this be?” many politicians ask. Have we not succeed in excluding religion from our debates and have we not created a multicultural world where religion is marginal at best? Must we open again the can or worms that is religious strife? Look what happened in Europe during the hundred years wars. These questions, are all important, but they miss the point. The point is that Islam has a history of conflict with the West for over a thousand years and the actions of Al-Qaeda are nothing more than a continuing unfolding of what has been going on for a long time. Modernism and globalization has done nothing more than lengthen the arm and the reason by which militant Islam can strike out against the West. The United states was sooner or later going to come up against this problem with Islam. Because we have projected our culture around the world, it is little wonder that our way of life has come up against an alternative way of life that cannot be swayed by our materialism. This is why the Democrat’s policy of only going after Al-Qaeda will not work. Al-Qaeda is not one of those rootless ferns that grows on air, but the flower of a plant that has both branch and root in a wide and international Islamic culture. Unless we go to the root of the problem, we will suffer the bloom of numberless blossoms of terror. Today it is Al-Qaeda but tomorrow it will be another group born from the soil of Islam. The very nature of Islam has to change before we are free from this struggle. If that change is culturally impossible, then we have to draw our borders clearly, define our national objectives, and secure an understanding of American citizenship. Seeing even farther ahead, we must be prepared as a nation to confront the growing Confusian-Islamic alliance about which Samuel P. Huntington warns us. If not, then will a new Sennacherib come down like a wolf upon the fold. __________

ROBERT KLEIN ENGLER lives in Chicago. He was a department chairman and labor union leader for many years at R.J. Daley College until he was ethnically cleansed and banned by the Chancellor in 1997. His book, A WINTER OF WORDS, is available from amazon.com.


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To: SauronOfMordor; sf4dubya; Mad_Tom_Rackham; Texas_Jarhead; Lijahsbubbe; sheik yerbouty; SJackson; ...
You are spinning your wheels, sir. It does no good to argue with the apologists for our nation's enemies.

Human civilization had better wake up soon and get as serious about its survival as the seventh-century savages of Islam are about our annihilation!
SLEEPING AMERICANS ARE EASIER TO KILL.
Do not be lulled to sleep by the Religion of Peace defenders.

Click here and never forget the face of Islam and what it wants for you infidels.

121 posted on 02/27/2003 11:33:56 PM PST by Thorondir
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To: SauronOfMordor
What is funniest about these people is how they claim that the mobs of the violent murderers of Islam are really not Muslims while insisting that the avowed atheist Timmothy McVeigh was a Christian when he bombed the Murrah building (and, even if he were, he didn't do it in the name of Christ and claim some big sex prize in heaven).
122 posted on 02/27/2003 11:51:32 PM PST by Thorondir
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Why don't you do a simple Google search and astound yourself at the media blackout on the condemnation.

Why don't you do the work and post the results? I've already gone through the trouble of posting quotes and links to back up my statements.

Also, putting up a weasel web statement read by nobody is not an effective counter to clerics in major mosques getting up and calling for the deaths of infidels.

123 posted on 02/28/2003 6:57:50 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
BTW, have you noticed that while we have been busy watching the whole war with Iraq thing play itself out on television, two MAJOR oil producing nations on OUR hemisphere have fallen under the control of communists?

At the moment, Iraq and the Islamofascists are the bigger worries. Iraq needs to be taken out, Iranian students encouraged to toss out the mullahs (better yet, hang them from the street lights of Tehran), and then it's on to Saudi and Pakistan. Lets not forget North Korea

Meanwhile, there's nothing better than a taste of Communism to immunize a country against it for decades afterward -- look at Chile after Allende. Venezuela will be dealt with at the proper time

124 posted on 02/28/2003 7:08:11 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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To: SauronOfMordor
You are the one working on faulty information when you made the statement about the lack of reaction to 9/11, one would imagine that this observation of yours came after...well, observing, not NOT observing.

And it's curious that even after admitting that you will not take the time to make damned sure that you are correct in your opinions, you begin the process of discrediting the sources of statements you have yet to read.

You wouldn't happen to have a predisposition on this subject, would you?

125 posted on 02/28/2003 9:54:54 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: SauronOfMordor
http://islam.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.unc.edu/%7Ekurzman/terror.htm

Granted, I did chuckle at the guy from Hamas signing one of the statements, but that was just one guy.
126 posted on 02/28/2003 10:03:39 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: SauronOfMordor
BTW, in spite of what some other poster may insinuate on this thread, I am no apologist, I want the people who attacked America found and destroyed. I am not however, interested in the promotion of the larger, darker agenda some others have of turning what is a basic power struggle, into a war of religions.

Some are trying to enlarge the problem to the point where we will not be able to zoom in on the actual people who perpetrate attacks opn the US.

You can always spot the ones with the agenda by their SPAM on threads.



127 posted on 02/28/2003 10:08:05 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: SauronOfMordor
"Meanwhile, there's nothing better than a taste of Communism to immunize a country against it for decades afterward."

Spoken like someone who's never had a taste of it.

128 posted on 02/28/2003 10:09:13 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: SauronOfMordor; sf4dubya; Mad_Tom_Rackham; Texas_Jarhead; Lijahsbubbe; sheik yerbouty; SJackson; ...
Heh, heh! This is a guy who constantly attacks Christianity as a religion of violence in his defense of iSLAM. He misinterprets OT texts of God's anger against specific people as the same as the Koran's blanket calls for the oppression or slaughter of every human being who is not a Mohammedan. Then he calls any evidence of iSLAMic atrocities and Koranic calls for violence as spam. What a joke.

Human civilization had better wake up soon and get as serious about its survival as the seventh-century savages of Islam are about our annihilation!
SLEEPING AMERICANS ARE EASIER TO KILL.
Do not be lulled to sleep by the Religion of Peace defenders.

Click here and never forget the face of Islam and what it wants for you infidels.

129 posted on 03/04/2003 11:38:41 PM PST by Thorondir
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To: Thorondir
Heh, heh! This is a guy who constantly attacks Christianity as a religion of violence in his defense of iSLAM.

Yes, he is. He's an enemy of Christianity and Western Culture and the American way of life. We're keeping an eye on him.

130 posted on 03/05/2003 12:10:31 AM PST by RecentConvert
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To: Jim Noble
Both the author and you have it down, pat. Your few words really tell it like it is.

We are at one of those cataclysmic junctions in the history of mankind. The thing that presents the most angst and therefore willingness to stick ones head in the sand, is that no one has a clue on how this will turn our and most of us will be worm food before it does (turn out).

131 posted on 03/05/2003 2:06:54 AM PST by ImpBill ("You are either with US or against US!")
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To: Thorondir
What is interesting is that the author of this article never mentions a war between religions (Christians against Muslims). That is a straw dog that others like to bring up to make it so.

The point is that Islam is and has been at war with the rest of the world since its inception as a socio/political/eccomic/religious philosophy, that feeds its poor followers with hatred rather than hope!

Thanks for bringing me to the thread. I enjoyed the authors words and Jim Noble's.

132 posted on 03/05/2003 2:18:01 AM PST by ImpBill ("You are either with US or against US!")
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To: Thorondir
Thank you for continuously posting these pictures. I believe we may have sanitized the attacked sites too quickly.

Right after 911 there was a rally at the capital in my city. People showed up holding flags and unified in spirit at the outrage of this attack on our country.

How sad it was when we were met by our city and state leaders whose purpose was not to encourage our loyalty and spirit, but to douse the flame by giving speeches about diversity and how we should react. They did not encourage our strength as citizens of the U.S., but weakened us by focusing on our place in the global family. We left the rally, confused and saddened.
133 posted on 03/05/2003 6:56:49 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: SauronOfMordor
In which Muslim country can a Christian safely stand on a street corner and preach that Mohammod was a false prophet, and that the only salvation comes through Jesus Christ?

You can't even do that in Turkey, which is much more moderate than other Islamic countries. I met a few Turkish Christians, but they survived by keeping to themselves.

134 posted on 03/05/2003 7:37:24 AM PST by Mark17
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To: nunya bidness

see later


135 posted on 01/16/2008 8:21:25 PM PST by southland (Fred Thompson/ John Bolton /08)
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To: southland
Al-Qaeda is not one of those rootless ferns that grows on air, but the flower of a plant that has both branch and root in a wide and international Islamic culture. Unless we go to the root of the problem, we will suffer the bloom of numberless blossoms of terror. Today it is Al-Qaeda but tomorrow it will be another group born from the soil of Islam. The very nature of Islam has to change before we are free from this struggle.

Very prescient. Bush has been driven into a corner because he can't admit that Islam will not change. Today's radicalism is driven by what many acknowledge as "fundamentalism" but because they falsely think in terms of Christian fundamentalism they don't understand what that implies. Only the most radical Christian fundamentalists, like Koresh, think they are in direct contact with God's Word. But for all sincere Muslims, the Koran IS the Word of God, and the book on which the Holy Words are written is a sacrament. Cromwell was probably the last western leader who believed as the Taliban that he was God's warrior. He would have known what do do about them; he, like the leaders of the First Crusade.

. The very word "Crusade" shuts off the capacity of the average westerner to think clearly like a switch. He cannot imagine religion accepted absolutely. But we are in the midst of a renewal of the war between Islam and the Greco-Roman-Christian world that goes back to the 7th Century.

136 posted on 01/16/2008 8:56:40 PM PST by RobbyS
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