"Open Doors and Open Windows. Silence About War With Islam"

ChronWatch ^ | Feb.25, 2003 | Robert Klein Engler

[angkor]

The Bush Administration's plans to invade Iraq is the closest thing we have to a tactic that is part of a larger, unspoken strategy. It is possible that some in the Bush Administration have concluded that indeed we are at war with Islam, and even though we cannot say that, we can plan a strategy for it.

Glad to see that some are finally getting it.

[Conspiracy Guy]

None will say it because it is not true. The author suffers from the very thing he is complaining about, the need for a clear enemy. To declare war on Islam would be much simpler and make separating the good from the bad a moot point. But Islam is not our enemy even though most of our enemies (at least the threatening ones) are Islamic. RACIST ALERT. If a redneck white boy from the South thinks the author a racist, he most likely is.

[RAY]

"Today it is Al-Qaeda but tomorrow it will be another group born from the soil of Islam. The very nature of Islam has to change before we are free from this struggle. If that change is culturally impossible, then we have to draw our borders clearly, define our national objectives, and secure an understanding of American citizenship."

This appears to me to be a truth we must accept -- which will be very difficut, if not impossible, for many who are under the illusion that the enemy will respond to good will and reason.

[Jim Noble]

It isn't racism, it's this:

"O ye that love mankind! Ye that dare oppose, not only the tyranny, but the tyrant, stand forth! Every spot of the old world is overrun with oppression. Freedom hath been hunted round the globe. Asia, and Africa, have long expelled her.?Europe regards her like a stranger, and England hath given her warning to depart. O! receive the fugitive, and prepare in time an asylum for mankind."- Common Sense, 1776.

The United States of America was created as a refuge for an ideology, admirably described in Thomas Paine's few, pithy words above.

I do not suppose that his generation saw themselves as anything but refugees and survivors. It has taken 227 years (not really a lot, in historical terms) for the descendants of those who oppose not only the tyranny but the tyrant to bestride the world like a Colossus-but that we do.

Our ancient enemies are not defeated, however, and our great power and expansive reach have created for them a commonality of interest.

America is born of a theory. Boldly stated, "We hold (certain) truths to be self evident".

Our enemies emphatically disagree. Only one of us is right.

The test has come to us, unexpectedly to be sure, but it is at hand.

Just as the USSR vanished in an eyeblink when its organizational principles (State Socialism and Red Terror) were exposed as false and/or inhuman, so may we if we are not endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, if governments do not derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, if it is not true that whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it.

The EU transnational socialists certainly recognize what is at stake here, as do the Islamists.

Do we?  

[Luis Gonzalez]

Jim, you rock.

[astounded]

Sorry Flurry, you're a bit off in your use of the word "racist" in the context. The word connotes superiority by virtue of race, and last time I looked, Islam is not a "race" it is a "religion", really more like a cult. To its most stringent followers, it's "my way, or the highway" or death to you all who decline. This is emphatically not about "race" - muslims come in all sorts of races and colors - Caucasians, Africans, Arabs, Orientals. I happen to agree with the basic premise that we are in a war with Islam, a war that started not on 9/11/2001, but really in the late 1970s with the downfall of the Shah of Iran and the rise of the anti-West Islamic fundamentalists in Iran. This war has been escalated by the muslims since than, culminating in the cowardly attacks of 9/11/2001. So, no, this is not about race - it is about religion, or more correctly it is about them (muslims) insisting that we (non-muslims) convert to Islam or die - regardless of race, creed, or national origins. In my opinion, they would prefer our total destruction as a nation and people than to have us among them.

[GirlShortstop]

But Islam is not our enemy even though most of our enemies (at least the threatening ones) are Islamic. RACIST ALERT.

Since when did Islam become a race?   Crying racism is something that DU is good at doing; especially well when FACTS interfere in their "everybody needs a hug" mantra.

Just thought I'd remind you.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"In the last century, America was threatened by a global communist revolution. Avoiding all-out war, we outlasted it. And we can outlast this Islamist revolution. What we must avoid is a war of faiths, a war of civilizations between Islam and America. And those who propagandize for such a war are the unwitting or willful collaborators of Osama bin Laden."---Pat Buchanan

[Luis Gonzalez]

OK, you're right.

Clueless bigot zealot alert would have been more appropriate.

[Luis Gonzalez]

I realize that crying racism has been elevated to an art form by the left, but sometimes, they really ARE racists.

[Jim Noble]

Unlike the USSR, the Islamists are comin' to get your mama.

Our refuge for mankind is in danger.

[John O]

None will say it because it is not true. The author suffers from the very thing he is complaining about, the need for a clear enemy. To declare war on Islam would be much simpler and make separating the good from the bad a moot point. But Islam is not our enemy even though most of our enemies (at least the threatening ones) are Islamic.

Apparently yopu've never read the koran. Or even the out takes of it that have been quoted various times on this web site. Islam by command of the koran must fight against all other religions and belief systems. Islam by command of the koran must work to dominate and control the entire world, by word if possible by sword if necessary. Islamics are commanded by the koran to fight the unbeliever near to them. Someone will always be near to fight with until either islam or the rest of the world dies.

We are at war with islam. All islamics may not be terrorists, but all islamics support terrorists. All islamics may not be at war with the US but all islamics support the war with the US.

Due to the koran's command for the islamic to lie to unbelievers you can't even trust them when they say they've converted. This war will only end when all the islamics are gone. Preferably we can just isolate them until several generations of Christians inhabit what once were islamic lands. Until then every islamic is a threat to this country and to the peace of the world. Read their book.

It is not a racist thing. There are black islamics, arab islamics, asian islamics and white islamics (may even be some red islamics, I don't know) Each of these is an enemy of freedom.

[Conspiracy Guy]

Racism was the wrong word. Intolerance of belief may be better. I agree that Islam is the religion of most terrorist but I will not agree that all Islamic people support terror. I don't want to buy the world a coke by any stretch of the imagination. But to single out all of Islam for destruction is like "killing fire ants with an ice pick" (my quote). We must pick out the most threatening hill and use Ortho, then pick the next hill. But even before we attack a hill we must handle the ants on our ankles. "It's easy to loose sight of a single quail when the whole covey takes flight" (me again). Sorry for the use of the R word.

[Conspiracy Guy]

Excerpts from any book can be dangerous. My Koran studies are not extensive. Race was the wrong term. Choosing to hate all muslims is very wrong also.

[Bulldogs22]

"None will say it because it is not true. The author suffers from the very thing he is complaining about, the need for a clear enemy. To declare war on Islam would be much simpler and make separating the good from the bad a moot point"


Time to take off the rose-colored glasss and realize what civilization is up against. This would be a good idea, unless you prefer to wear a burka.

[applemac_g4]

Bump this...the author's hit the nail on the head.

As for being racist, Islam is a philosophy with followers from all ethnic backgrounds. Calling someone who opposes it racist only means that you don't understand the meaning of the term.

[Conspiracy Guy]

If I had my way I'd move Israel and Nuke the entire Middle-East, Southern Asia, most of Africa. Then drive them all out of the US, Canada, and where ever else they may hide. That way I don't have to be precise. But it aint gonna happen that way. My glasses don't have a rose tint. But thanks anyway.

[GirlShortstop]

But to single out all of Islam for destruction is like "killing fire ants with an ice pick" (my quote). We must pick out the most threatening hill and use Ortho, then pick the next hill.

You are definitely much better when you use *your own words* rather than those found so pervasively at DU!   That said, I do not arbitrarily dismiss what has been presented in this article, and write-off the author as bigoted.  I have a healthy belief that given information and facts, Americans will draw their own conclusions, make choices, and in the end, act accordingly, and rightly.  FReegards.

[GirlShortstop]

Time to take off the rose-colored glasses and realize what civilization is up against. This would be a good idea, unless you prefer to wear a burka.

LOL ... Hell No! to those scratchy ugly burkas... can't play ball in 'em!