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What will they say when the dungeons are opened?
Freedom Institute ^ | 02/23/2003 | Mitchell Solomon

Posted on 02/23/2003 2:14:29 AM PST by freeasinbeer


What will they say when the dungeons are opened?

written by Mitchell Solomon

As the clock ticks down to what appears to be an inevitable military take down of the Iraqi regime the worldly sophisticates in France and Germany, just to name two, have decided that under no circumstances can there be any justification for an American led attack on Saddam and his cruel henchmen. Leave aside for the moment the utter hypocrisy of France, who thinks nothing of sending it’s army and mercenaries into African countries without even as much as notice to their beloved United Nations, or the memory-deficient Germans, who obviously have forgotten the fact that Americans liberated them from some of the last century’s worst tyranny and rebuilt their nation, while in all honesty they had every right to leave them shattered and prone. No, I don’t tax the capabilities of a single brain cell wondering how they can justify their immoral position. What I wonder about, and can’t wait to see, is how they will react, how they will explain themselves, how they will criticize America, when the gates of Saddam’s houses of horror are opened before the eyes of the world.

America’s so-called allies make self-satisfying noises about the harm that may come to the Iraqi people during a military campaign. I wonder how they will explain their position to the inmates of Saddam’s children’s prisons, the ones where opponents’ family members are incarcerated in conditions so miserable that even the apologist Scott Ritter can’t bring himself to describe them? How will my own nation, Canada, ever expect to have any moral credibility on the world stage after American Marines show the world the vats of acid men were lowered into simply for the crime of speaking out against the Butcher of Baghdad? We say we care about the United Nations and its legitimacy. Where is the legitimacy in a world body constituted to improve the plight of humankind that makes excuses for a regime that has violated every tenet of civilized behavior that the talking heads in New York and Geneva were supposed to uphold? You know the answer; they have no legitimacy. From the pending genocide in Zimbabwe to the torture cells of Tikrit, the burghers by the river see nothing, nothing that is except the wailing from the families of the Shaheeds in Ramallah, oh how must they be protected from the criminal Jews, who in fact make up the only nation in the Middle East that has ever been half serious about helping the Palestinians build their own state.

In 1945 the world recoiled at the sight of Hitler’s factories of death. We will see scenes in Iraq that will remind us of those awful days, soon dear reader, very soon. Torture, deprivation, starvation, and programs to create the most sinister weapons the world has seen, all collected in one state. No, not weapons designed to defeat an army, not weapons designed to liberate or protect, but weapons of mass murder and mayhem, pointed at us, at them, and most tellingly, the very citizens of that tortured nation. How sophisticated will you look then, oh France? What phony moral authority will you then dredge up to preach to the world about the pushy Americans? How will you, united and free Germany, explain the discovery that for the past decade you’ve illegally rearmed and traded with the Mesopotamian murderer? We’ll see how high your head is held when we see Satan’s handiwork again, but this time in full digital color, not the detached and surreal black and white of the 1940’s that makes it so easy to believe that it was from a distant, no foreign, time and place.

When the sons and daughters of that shining city on the hill prevail, and make no mistake, they will prevail, America will have the unquestionable authority to declare that never again will it give a moment’s concern to the whims and objections of the moral midgets that worship at the altar of collectivism. America should follow up their success in Iraq with the simple yet powerfully symbolic act of striking from the NATO Charter Article 5, that section which commits all to defend one. Naturally, America can and likely will always save the neck of any free people threatened by tyranny, but why, please, should those that would deny liberty to the prisoners we call Iraqi citizens have any assurance that they themselves would not be abandoned by an indifferent world?

Yes, the clouds of war once again drift toward the Fertile Crescent, propelled, not impeded, by the appeasement that gives the tyrant confidence he will again survive. The fallen one again stalks the lands of antiquity. Yet the continent of the Enlightenment, that likes to boast of their grand civilization, sees only a determined America, wounded by a body blow but on its feet and on the hunt, and declares “You must not act! Iraq’s leadership is for Iraqis to decide!” as if a starving and brutalized Iraq can actually rise up against Saddam’s mechanics of murder. Once again, the Land of Liberty sees what Europe can not, and offers it’s precious sons and daughters, its’ truly greatest treasure, to drive the devil back to the fires of hell from whence he came.

Meanwhile, in France they buy books claiming the Americans killed their own on that horrible day in 2001. In Germany, they ridicule the nation that paid with so much blood for their freedom. And in Canada, here, in the one nation that should know better, where we can see the glory of America up close, rest peacefully in our beds protected by her mighty sword, and know better than any that America seeks not to conquer, but to free and protect, we watch an arrogant and petty man who calls himself a leader single-handedly trash the closest friendship between nations that history has ever seen.

So I ask again: What will they say when the dungeons are opened? What will they say to the Iraqi mothers who wonder why it took so long? What will they say when the fathers of murdered children ask why they opposed liberty? What will they say? What will WE say? Indeed.


TOPICS: Canada; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hypocrisy; immoral; peace; protestors; protests; rally
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1 posted on 02/23/2003 2:14:29 AM PST by freeasinbeer
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To: freeasinbeer
"Vive le France"?
2 posted on 02/23/2003 2:30:58 AM PST by LdSentinal
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To: freeasinbeer
So I ask again: What will they say when the dungeons are opened?

The same thing they said when the Soviet Union collapsed into the dustbin of history -- nothing. No mea culpas, no apologies, no admission of being wrong. They will use 101% of their energy to "prove" that each and every atrocity was caused by "US imperialism" or "unilateral thinking" or "big oil interests."

I hope nobody on our side is holding their breath, wating for "vindication." Because you'll never get it. There's only the next battle waiting after this one.

4 posted on 02/23/2003 2:42:19 AM PST by Cincinatus
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To: freeasinbeer
What will they say when the dungeons are opened?

Not a damn thing. They'll hang their heads and say " who me ? I was all for getting rid of Saddam The whole time." In a year you'll be able to find more people who will admit they voted for Jimmy Carter ( i've only ever met one ) than were against the war. Those who are on record as antis will try and lie their way out of it by saying things like "that's not what I meant" or "that's not what I said". We now have them on tape, the web, and transcripts. All they will have for their defense are lame Democrat talking points that aren't even about the subject, their own all spin zone.

5 posted on 02/23/2003 2:47:34 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Jimmy Carter was the last dem my father ever voted for...he will admit it...and i voted for Perot...we all make mistakes!! forgive me!!! ;)
6 posted on 02/23/2003 2:51:09 AM PST by chasio649
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To: LdSentinal
They will say it's a set-up. They will say any weapons we find were planted. You are dealing with the OJ jury here. No amount of evidence will convince them. They side with the tyrants and dictators, and we will get no credit whatsoever. They just hate America and that's all there is to it.
7 posted on 02/23/2003 3:42:26 AM PST by veronica
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To: freeasinbeer
Those who defend Iraq's "sovereignty" are much less concerned with the quality of its "sovereign" than they are with obstructing the United States. There's hardly a one of them who's been willing to confront the objective evidence of Saddam Hussein's atrocities. They're united in denying that his regime has any connection to Islamic terrorism, despite his unabashed announcement that he would pay blood money to the families of Palestinian "martyrs."

These people have two desires: to see the United States thwarted, and to see Israel, the only democratic state in the Middle East, fall to its Islamic enemies. They will defend any force that appears capable of helping with those aims.

Why? Pure hatred?

I've racked my brain searching for an alternative explanation. Claims that the United States is to blame for Saddam's behavior are too obviously the reflexive emissions of people who would blame us for the monsoons in India, if they could. Claims that Israel "discriminates" against the Palestinians are absurd, especially in comparison to the carnival of death the Palestinians have inflicted both on the Israelis and their own, pitifully few dissidents.

When the "reasons" advanced are of this quality, you're not dealing with reason at all. What remains to be discovered is how they came by their antipathy to the only state in history formed as a refuge for a horribly tortured people, and to the only power in the history of the world that lifts up a fallen enemy and leaves him stronger than before.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
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8 posted on 02/23/2003 3:48:28 AM PST by fporretto (Curmudgeon Emeritus, Palace of Reason)
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To: freeasinbeer
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9 posted on 02/23/2003 4:03:44 AM PST by RippleFire (Hold mein bier!)
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To: veronica
The Bush administration is smarter than that-- the Pentagon is sending in 500 reporters from all kinds of news organizations, embedded in all sorts of units, with the troops. Checkmate.
10 posted on 02/23/2003 4:20:17 AM PST by walden
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To: fporretto
"Claims that the United States is to blame for Saddam's behavior are too obviously the reflexive emissions of people who would blame us for the monsoons in India..."

Heh--if the US is to blame for Saddam, then WHY are the antis complaining if it decides to FIX that mistake??

11 posted on 02/23/2003 4:23:33 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: freeasinbeer
I agree with the moral outrage of this article and wish the USA would channel the same outrage less selectively. No doubt China has weapons of mass destruction trained on us, too, and yet we do billions of dollars of busness with them. That too is wrong, I think. We should fight Iraq, but we should also give France and Germany no moral quarter, and that means we should end any of our own practices of empowering dictatorships through trade.
12 posted on 02/23/2003 4:30:24 AM PST by Puddleglum
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To: freeasinbeer
What will they say when the dungeons are opened?

Undoubtedly every jailed Iraqi criminal will be counted and double-counted as a "political" prisoner.

13 posted on 02/23/2003 4:35:06 AM PST by palmer (receive this important and informative post - FREE)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
I voted for Carter in 1976 partly because I thought it was the only way to clean house after Watergate. But I certainly did NOT vote for Carter in 1980 - I voted for Reagan, thank GOD.
14 posted on 02/23/2003 5:21:37 AM PST by libertylover
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To: Cincinatus
What will they say when the dungeons are opened?
The same thing they said when the Soviet Union collapsed into the dustbin of history -- nothing. No mea culpas, no apologies, no admission of being wrong. They will use 101% of their energy to "prove" that each and every atrocity was caused by "US imperialism" or "unilateral thinking" or "big oil interests" simply change the subject.

It is the PR power of journalism--not love--which means "never having to say you're sorry."

15 posted on 02/23/2003 5:27:16 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: freeasinbeer
the clouds of war once again drift toward the Fertile Crescent, propelled, not impeded, by the appeasement that gives the tyrant confidence he will again survive.
16 posted on 02/23/2003 5:30:00 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: freeasinbeer
Supposedly, they and others are too busy setting up and guarding dungeons in the USA for the next global tyranny.

And Billdo and Shrillary sped the process along wholesale . . . evidently.

But I'd better not get too long about it.
17 posted on 02/23/2003 5:32:21 AM PST by Quix (HOW MANY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DISCUSSING THE WARNING CHAPTERS IN RELIGION FORUM?)
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To: freeasinbeer
The left will probably say: "They werent political prisoners...they were getting treated for mental health problems"

As sure as the sun comes up every day...the lefties will make up some reason...some excuse
18 posted on 02/23/2003 5:44:52 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (I Wonder What Susan Sarandon Looks Like In A Burqa?)
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To: freeasinbeer
Bump

great article
19 posted on 02/23/2003 5:50:44 AM PST by JZoback
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20 posted on 02/23/2003 5:51:20 AM PST by SLB
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