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What will they say when the dungeons are opened?
Freedom Institute ^ | 02/23/2003 | Mitchell Solomon

Posted on 02/23/2003 2:14:29 AM PST by freeasinbeer

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To: freeasinbeer
There are some who have already made public spectacles of themselves in all this. Miss Germany, Jimmy Carter, Jesse Jackson, Susan Sarandon, and others. With the exception of Miss Germany, the others all have willing accomplises in the media who will do everything in their power to sweep all this under the rug. France and Russia's America hating populace will just go on believing this was all a plant by the US to cover ourselves. The Germans, Canadians, English, Americans, and all the other's protesting populace will all fall back on, "aw, it was just a fad to protest America at the time."
21 posted on 02/23/2003 5:53:45 AM PST by swampmonster
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To: UCFRoadWarrior; freeasinbeer
Sadly, they have no sense of shame, which seems to be a common affliction these days. They will change the subject or dismiss it out of hand as irrelevant.

UCFRoadWarrior, the answer to your tag line is ... better.

22 posted on 02/23/2003 5:55:38 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: freeasinbeer
UNSCR 688 (UN Resolution 688) “condemns” Saddam Hussein’s repression of the Iraqi civilian population -- “the consequences of which threaten international peace and security.” UNSCR 688 also requires Saddam Hussein to end his repression of the Iraqi people and to allow immediate access to international humanitarian organizations to help those in need of assistance.

Saddam Hussein has repeatedly violated these provisions and has: expanded his violence against women and children; continued his horrific torture and execution of innocent Iraqis; continued to violate the basic human rights of the Iraqi people and has continued to control all sources of information (including killing more than 500 journalists and other opinion leaders in the past decade).

Saddam Hussein has also harassed humanitarian aid workers; expanded his crimes against Muslims; he has withheld food from families that fail to offer their children to his regime; and he has continued to subject Iraqis to unfair imprisonment.10

REFUSAL TO ADMIT HUMAN RIGHTS MONITORS

§ The UN Commission on Human Rights and the UN General Assembly issued a report that noted "with dismay" the lack of improvement in the situation of human rights in Iraq. The report strongly criticized the "systematic, widespread, and extremely grave violations of human rights" and of international humanitarian law by the Iraqi Government, which it stated resulted in "all-pervasive repression and oppression sustained by broad-based discrimination and widespread terror." The report called on the Iraqi Government to fulfill its obligations under international human rights treaties. § Saddam Hussein has repeatedly refused visits by human rights monitors and the establishment of independent human rights organizations.

From 1992 until 2002, Saddam prevented the UN Special Rapporteur from visiting Iraq.11 § In September 2001 the Government expelled six UN humanitarian relief workers without providing any explanation.12

VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN

§ Human rights organizations and opposition groups continued to receive reports of women who suffered from severe psychological trauma after being raped by Iraqi personnel while in custody.13 § Former Mukhabarat member Khalid Al-Janabi reported that a Mukhabarat unit, the Technical Operations Directorate, used rape and sexual assault in a systematic and institutionalized manner for political purposes. The unit reportedly also videotaped the rape of female relatives of suspected oppositionists and used the videotapes for blackmail purposes and to ensure their future cooperation.§ In June 2000, a former Iraqi general reportedly received a videotape of security forces raping a female family member. He subsequently received a telephone call from an intelligence agent who stated that another female relative was being held and warned him to stop speaking out against the Iraqi Government.15

§ Iraqi security forces allegedly raped women who were captured during the Anfal Campaign and during the occupation of Kuwait. 16

§ Amnesty International reported that, in October 2000, the Iraqi Government executed dozens of women accused of prostitution.17

§ In May, the Iraqi Government reportedly tortured to death the mother of three Iraqi defectors for her children’s opposition activities.18

§ Iraqi security agents reportedly decapitated numerous women and men in front of their family members. According to Amnesty International, the victims’ heads were displayed in front of their homes for several days.

19 TORTURE § Iraqi security services routinely and systematically torture detainees. According to former prisoners, torture techniques included branding, electric shocks administered to the genitals and other areas, beating, pulling out of fingernails, burning with hot irons and blowtorches, suspension from rotating ceiling fans, dripping acid on the skin, rape, breaking of limbs, denial of food and water, extended solitary confinement in dark and extremely small compartments, and threats to rape or otherwise harm family members and relatives. Evidence of such torture often was apparent when security forces returned the mutilated bodies of torture victims to their families.20

§ According to a report received by the UN Special Rapporteur in 1998, hundreds of Kurds and other detainees have been held without charge for close to two decades in extremely harsh conditions, and many of them have been used as subjects in Iraq’s illegal experimental chemical and biological weapons programs.21

§ In 2000, the authorities reportedly introduced tongue amputation as a punishment for persons who criticize Saddam Hussein or his family, and on July 17, government authorities reportedly amputated the tongue of a person who allegedly criticized Saddam Hussein. Authorities reportedly performed the amputation in front of a large crowd. Similar tongue amputations also reportedly occurred.22

23 posted on 02/23/2003 5:58:40 AM PST by ez (WHERE'S THE POLLING DATA ON THE ESTRADA FILIBUSTER???)
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To: ez
This could be ANY dictatorship. We should take them all down.
24 posted on 02/23/2003 6:25:01 AM PST by illumini
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To: NonValueAdded
Sadly, they have no sense of shame, which seems to be a common affliction these days.

Right on the money, NVA! Shame today is in short supply and should be in high demand!

25 posted on 02/23/2003 6:32:46 AM PST by WIladyconservative
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To: freeasinbeer
Will the commie media whores even acknowlege that "they were wrong on Iraq and Islamic terrorism"? doubtfull

Anything we do find...any incrimnation of the Euro trash variety...will it be denied as a plot of The Bush Administration to justify going after more terrorists....and of course oil?

Cant imagine the truth ever shutting these bastardos up

26 posted on 02/23/2003 6:45:11 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: chasio649
Jimmy Carter was the last dem my father ever voted for...he will admit it...

But did he correct his mistake in 1980 by voting for Ronald Reagan?

27 posted on 02/23/2003 7:23:55 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: freeasinbeer
France and Germany, just to name two, have decided that under no circumstances can there be any justification for an American led attack on Saddam and his cruel henchmen.

Gee whiz...I wonder why France is so gung ho in the cause of Iraq??


Sadaam in France 1975 - Far right, then PM Chirac

The results of France's last bout with shortsightedness concerning Iraq:


The Tammuz1 nuclear reactor BEFORE Sadaam threatened to destroy Israel


The Tammuz1 nuclear reactor AFTER

George W. Bush to the children of Ilan Ramon, "Your father started the job...I will finish it."

28 posted on 02/23/2003 7:57:28 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: illumini
This could be ANY dictatorship. We should take them all down.

That would be the American way, yes. You know government of the people, by the people, and for the people and all that...

Either you believe cruel and unusual punishment is immoral or you do not. Either you believe in free elections by people free from government terror or you do not. Either you believe that humans were endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, or you do not.

Would I spread those things to every corner of the globe if I could? You betcha...

29 posted on 02/23/2003 8:03:41 AM PST by ez (WHERE'S THE POLLING DATA ON THE ESTRADA FILIBUSTER???)
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To: freeasinbeer
I don't care what they have to say except in front of a War Crimes Tribunal. Putin, Chirac, et al, can defend themselves just like Himmler, Goebbels etc, did during the Nuremberg Trials.
30 posted on 02/23/2003 8:08:06 AM PST by marty60
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To: freeasinbeer
I love good writing. I thought skills like this were long lost.
31 posted on 02/23/2003 8:21:35 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: freeasinbeer
BTT
32 posted on 02/23/2003 9:02:26 AM PST by mitchbert (Facts are Stubborn Things)
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To: swampmonster
The Germans, Canadians, English, Americans, and all the other's protesting populace will all fall back on, "aw, it was just a fad to protest America at the time."

I doubt they'll even concede that much. Consider that even in America those who protested the Vietnam war have, with the full cooperation of the mainstream media and many other institutions, consistently taken unalloyed pride in their actions, and still do to this day, never minding the millions of South Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotins murdered, tortured and emprisoned by the communists as a consequence of America's withdrawl.

33 posted on 02/23/2003 10:38:25 AM PST by Stultis
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To: freeasinbeer
Thanks for posting this. If you weren't aware, it started life as a vanity thread here two weeks ago. It's also been published on www.efreedomnews.com.

I love this place :-)

34 posted on 02/23/2003 12:40:15 PM PST by mitchbert (Facts are Stubborn Things)
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To: Paleo Conservative
yes sir he did...voted straight republican ever since.
35 posted on 02/23/2003 4:00:34 PM PST by chasio649
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To: freeasinbeer
I admit I quit reading this after the author spelled "its" wrong.
36 posted on 02/23/2003 5:02:58 PM PST by sam_paine
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To: sam_paine
You are more than welcome to contact the website that I got this from and point this out. I didn't have time to go through the whole article and do spelling/grammer checks.
37 posted on 02/23/2003 6:52:47 PM PST by freeasinbeer (If you're not liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you're not conservative by 40, you have no brain.)
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To: freeasinbeer
No critique of you intended, of course. I just wonder how much thought someone has put into an article that doesn't check themselves first...
38 posted on 02/23/2003 7:35:15 PM PST by sam_paine
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To: freeasinbeer
oh wow... wonderful.
39 posted on 02/23/2003 7:39:45 PM PST by Tamzee (There are 10 types of people... those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: sam_paine
I agree. Little things like that shouldn't get by people who intend to write for a living.
40 posted on 02/23/2003 8:01:52 PM PST by freeasinbeer (If you're not liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you're not conservative by 40, you have no brain.)
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