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Anti-war Protests Anger U.S. Troops Inside Kuwait
The Detroit News | Tuesday, February 18, 2003 | M.E. Sprengelmeyer

Posted on 02/18/2003 7:26:58 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER

Some see America’s patriotic mood waning.

Campujairi, Kuwait – The peace protesters might as well be marching right under the tank barrels.

U.S. troops amassed in the Kuwaiti desert couldn’t avoid news of anti-war protests that swept the globe over the weekend, and it is making some angry, defensive, fired-up and anxious.

They see scattered news reports of opposition to a possible war against Iraq, but the hardest-hitting bulletins come in phone calls home to worried wives and loved ones, said Sgt. 1st Class Victor Oravec, 41, of Fort Knox, Ky., of the U.S. Army’s 3-7 Cavalry.

“They’re saying, ‘Why are we over here when everyone’s over here saying we shouldn’t be?’” Oravec said.

“They hear it. They bring it up to me, and I squash it by keeping them busy, reminding them why they’re here,” Oravec said, just before leading his tank maintenance unit in an all-night training exercise across the Kuwaiti desert.

Many of the soldiers who might be called to fight against Iraq were too young to remember the emotional protests that marked the end of the Vietnam War. Many had not even been born.

Still, some say they take the anti-war protests personally – questioning the jobs they do and their boss, President Bush.

“They get down,” said Oravec, a veteran of the 1991 war against Iraq. “That’s when I come around, try to get them work to do. That’s the only thing I can think of to keep their minds off home and what their wives are telling them.”

Capt. John Turner, 26, of Colonial Heights, Va., whose father was a med-evac pilot for the Army in Vietnam, said soldiers are not decision-makers and can’t afford to get distracted from their training.

“I’m not in this line of work for political reasons. I didn’t come here to be a politician,” Turner said.

Still, he’s especially angry about opposition at the United Nations from France, a NATO ally.

“How would they feel if it was the Eiffel Tower that got hit into (on Sept. 11)?” he asked.

The troops see a possible war against Iraq as part of the ongoing war on terrorism, as the Bush administration targets alleged weapons of mass destruction that could fall into the hands of terrorists.

Protesters call that an unfounded or unproven claim being used to justify a war to control more of the Middle East’s vast oil reserves.

The “No blood for oil” slogan was used in opposition to the 1991 war, too. But back then, in the war to liberate Kuwait from Iraqi invaders, the protests did not seem as widespread and the troops did not take them so personally, Gulf War veterans said.

“That’s their right to protest as long as they know that’s their opinion, not ours,” said 1st Sgt. Stephen Edgerton, 36, a Gulf War veteran from Blackshear, Ga.

“When you’re younger, you’re a little more eager to go out and pick a fight with somebody,” Edgerton said. “With age, you’re not as quick to jump into things without thinking them out first.”

But for soldiers, he said, the bottom line is simple: “I support my Commander in Chief. That’s my job.”

Pvt. Wesley Carr, 23, of Virginia Beach, Va., said soldiers are the last ones who want to rush into unnecessary wars.

“I can understand why they want to protest, because they don’t want any harm to come to us. But a lot of them don’t understand,” Carr said. “I hope, like everyone else, that it does end peacefully. But if it doesn’t and we have to go to war, we have to think of the safety of the United States and all these people here.”

Privately, some soldiers wonder if the patriotic mood and pro-military spirit in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks has evaporated.

With all its soldiers and high-tech war fighting machines, the U.S. military would not have had all its recent success if the soldiers didn’t get so much support from the public, Edgerton said.

“They don’t have to support what’s happening,” he said, “but at least support the soldiers”

Iraq Update
1st U-2 Mission: Iraq reported the first flight by an American U-2 surveillance plane Monday in support of the U.N. inspection mission, marking another concession by the Baghdad government in hopes of staving off a U.S. –led attack. The flight lasted four hours.

Turkey Delays:
Turkey’s prime minister on Monday ruled out a parliamentary vote to allow tens of thousands of U.S. combat troops on its territory until Turkish and U.S. officials agree on the conditions of the deployment.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: antiamericanpos; appeasementweanies; appeaseniks; democrats; ingrates; janefondalovers; jerks; marxists; saddamsbuddies; supportourtroops; traitors
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To: Victoria Delsoul
I think Calgary is the only conservative city in Canada.

I think you're right. What is most interesting is that compared to the rest of southern Alberta, Calgary is a bastion of Marxism.

301 posted on 02/19/2003 6:41:37 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: BOBTHENAILER
“I can understand why they want to protest, because they don’t want any harm to come to us. But a lot of them don’t understand,” Carr said.

No, I think Carr is the one that doesn't understand if he thinks they are protesting because they don't want to see someone in our milatary get hurt.

302 posted on 02/19/2003 6:55:14 PM PST by muggs
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To: Alberta's Child
You're kidding me. Are you suggesting in any way, shape, or form that the south of Calgary is full of rednecks? LOL!!!


303 posted on 02/19/2003 7:15:44 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
What is most scary about that picture is that the guy in it looks almost IDENTICAL to a friend of mine who worked with me in Calgary. He lived at the very southern end of Calgary, and he just moved to a small city called Lethbridge, which is about three hours -- you guessed it -- SOUTH of Calgary in the dry hills east of the Rocky Mountains. LOL!

However, the area around a small city called Red Deer (north of Calgary, about halfway between Calgary and Edmonton) has the reputation for being the most "redneck" area in all of Canada. Most of the ranchers who have publicly refused to abide by Canada's mandatory gun registration law are from that area.

Southern Alberta -- even the names of the towns sound really cool. Red Deer, Medicine Hat, Crowsnest Pass, Rocky Mountain House, Bragg Creek, Okotoks, Black Diamond, High River, etc.

304 posted on 02/19/2003 8:18:45 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Red Deer, Alberta -- Where the homes are mobile and the four cars on the front lawn are not. LOL.

305 posted on 02/19/2003 8:20:54 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: BOBTHENAILER
The only people who do not support our efforts at survival as a nation are the self-marginalized ideologues.


306 posted on 02/19/2003 8:22:01 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Alberta's Child
What is most scary about that picture is that the guy in it looks almost IDENTICAL to a friend of mine who worked with me in Calgary.

LOL, did I tell you that I'm a mind reader?

307 posted on 02/19/2003 8:29:36 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Alberta's Child
Red Deer, Alberta -- Where the homes are mobile and the four cars on the front lawn are not. LOL.

Hmmm, like this?


308 posted on 02/19/2003 8:30:42 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: BOBTHENAILER
We need to send them all the praise we can send! BIG BUMP for the troops, and their families..
309 posted on 02/19/2003 8:35:40 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
LOL, did I tell you that I'm a mind reader?

No, but you just proved it now. LOL!

310 posted on 02/19/2003 8:37:03 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
Hahahaha. C
311 posted on 02/19/2003 8:39:15 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
That is absolutely amazing. The photo with the #7 "Canadian Tire" car looks like HIS neighborhood!
312 posted on 02/19/2003 8:39:24 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Squantos
BUMP TO YOUR MOST PASSIONATE POST!
313 posted on 02/19/2003 8:44:11 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Alberta's Child
So, are you convinced that I am a mind reader? hehehe.
314 posted on 02/19/2003 8:46:47 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (told ya)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
I'm convinced. LOL.
315 posted on 02/19/2003 8:48:20 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: SENTINEL
Awesome and pic and job.. thank you!!!
316 posted on 02/19/2003 8:54:48 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops....)
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To: SENTINEL
forgive my grammar, I'm typing too fast.. I'm really upset..I had heard a report on the news a long time ago, that the smaller protests didn't bother the troops..but this is tearing me up knowing how they're reacting.
317 posted on 02/19/2003 8:56:14 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Don't worry, our troops are resiliant. Just get to the next protest AND MAKE A BIG SCENE !!

We're not going to change any minds or policy one way or the other, but if we are aggressive, we can motivate the troops so they can concentrate on killing rock chuckers !

The only good that can come from us freeping these scum is if the media notices us. Rebuke the scum at the maximum moral limit of speech and steal the spotlight !

318 posted on 02/19/2003 9:04:52 PM PST by SENTINEL
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To: SENTINEL
God bless you...

I will never quit voicing my opinions to the media, and our leaders.



319 posted on 02/19/2003 9:18:33 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops....)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Thought you would like to know that just now (Thursday) Foxnews did a segment with a WTC survivor - who is Muslim and whose son is a Marine in Kuwait - and during the whole interview they showed the memorable film footage of the horror of 9/11.

Maybe their producers read this thread a few days ago?!
320 posted on 02/20/2003 10:00:22 AM PST by maica
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