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Anti-war Protests Anger U.S. Troops Inside Kuwait
The Detroit News | Tuesday, February 18, 2003 | M.E. Sprengelmeyer

Posted on 02/18/2003 7:26:58 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER

Some see America’s patriotic mood waning.

Campujairi, Kuwait – The peace protesters might as well be marching right under the tank barrels.

U.S. troops amassed in the Kuwaiti desert couldn’t avoid news of anti-war protests that swept the globe over the weekend, and it is making some angry, defensive, fired-up and anxious.

They see scattered news reports of opposition to a possible war against Iraq, but the hardest-hitting bulletins come in phone calls home to worried wives and loved ones, said Sgt. 1st Class Victor Oravec, 41, of Fort Knox, Ky., of the U.S. Army’s 3-7 Cavalry.

“They’re saying, ‘Why are we over here when everyone’s over here saying we shouldn’t be?’” Oravec said.

“They hear it. They bring it up to me, and I squash it by keeping them busy, reminding them why they’re here,” Oravec said, just before leading his tank maintenance unit in an all-night training exercise across the Kuwaiti desert.

Many of the soldiers who might be called to fight against Iraq were too young to remember the emotional protests that marked the end of the Vietnam War. Many had not even been born.

Still, some say they take the anti-war protests personally – questioning the jobs they do and their boss, President Bush.

“They get down,” said Oravec, a veteran of the 1991 war against Iraq. “That’s when I come around, try to get them work to do. That’s the only thing I can think of to keep their minds off home and what their wives are telling them.”

Capt. John Turner, 26, of Colonial Heights, Va., whose father was a med-evac pilot for the Army in Vietnam, said soldiers are not decision-makers and can’t afford to get distracted from their training.

“I’m not in this line of work for political reasons. I didn’t come here to be a politician,” Turner said.

Still, he’s especially angry about opposition at the United Nations from France, a NATO ally.

“How would they feel if it was the Eiffel Tower that got hit into (on Sept. 11)?” he asked.

The troops see a possible war against Iraq as part of the ongoing war on terrorism, as the Bush administration targets alleged weapons of mass destruction that could fall into the hands of terrorists.

Protesters call that an unfounded or unproven claim being used to justify a war to control more of the Middle East’s vast oil reserves.

The “No blood for oil” slogan was used in opposition to the 1991 war, too. But back then, in the war to liberate Kuwait from Iraqi invaders, the protests did not seem as widespread and the troops did not take them so personally, Gulf War veterans said.

“That’s their right to protest as long as they know that’s their opinion, not ours,” said 1st Sgt. Stephen Edgerton, 36, a Gulf War veteran from Blackshear, Ga.

“When you’re younger, you’re a little more eager to go out and pick a fight with somebody,” Edgerton said. “With age, you’re not as quick to jump into things without thinking them out first.”

But for soldiers, he said, the bottom line is simple: “I support my Commander in Chief. That’s my job.”

Pvt. Wesley Carr, 23, of Virginia Beach, Va., said soldiers are the last ones who want to rush into unnecessary wars.

“I can understand why they want to protest, because they don’t want any harm to come to us. But a lot of them don’t understand,” Carr said. “I hope, like everyone else, that it does end peacefully. But if it doesn’t and we have to go to war, we have to think of the safety of the United States and all these people here.”

Privately, some soldiers wonder if the patriotic mood and pro-military spirit in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks has evaporated.

With all its soldiers and high-tech war fighting machines, the U.S. military would not have had all its recent success if the soldiers didn’t get so much support from the public, Edgerton said.

“They don’t have to support what’s happening,” he said, “but at least support the soldiers”

Iraq Update
1st U-2 Mission: Iraq reported the first flight by an American U-2 surveillance plane Monday in support of the U.N. inspection mission, marking another concession by the Baghdad government in hopes of staving off a U.S. –led attack. The flight lasted four hours.

Turkey Delays:
Turkey’s prime minister on Monday ruled out a parliamentary vote to allow tens of thousands of U.S. combat troops on its territory until Turkish and U.S. officials agree on the conditions of the deployment.


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To: SENTINEL; Kathy in Alaska
Kathy, you let Sentinel FReep all by himself?

Hmmm....
142 posted on 02/18/2003 9:39:54 AM PST by HiJinx (I love the high desert!)
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To: SENTINEL; nutmeg
FANTASTIC!

Sentinel, I salute you!

143 posted on 02/18/2003 9:41:03 AM PST by abner (Cruise the Caribe with FReepers! FRN Network Cruise)
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To: SENTINEL
"GET TO THE NEXT RALLY to help the morale of our troops!!!"

Way to go, Sentinel!! More Americans back our troops than the Vast LeftWingMedyuhWhore'd's willing to let on...but yer Right, Americans need to demonstrate their support by joining their good, patriotic countrymen at the Support Our Troops Rallies!!!

FReegards...MUD

144 posted on 02/18/2003 9:43:32 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (Git the US Outta the UN...and Git Ashcroft Outta the DOJ!!!)
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To: grumpdawg485
I agree with you and normally restraint is not a problem. I was spit on by a protestor in 73, (I never even went to Nam), I was stateside and because I was in uniform I restrained myself, this idiot probably didn't know a Marine from a Doorman. In this case I was pushed before I struck and it was almost reflex to swing. I did tell him to stay down and 2 friends did hold me back. Like I said I amd not violent and I hate war.
145 posted on 02/18/2003 9:44:05 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (RW&B)
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To: HiJinx
In defence of Kathy, the peaceniks were kicked of of the "fur rondezvous" parade at the last minute, and we barely had 12 hours notice before this rally. CIBVET was on the other side of the street when the police asked me to move. I did get in a good 15 minutes of butt-chewing though.

Our troops are young and aggressive, and will appreciate the same from us. (at least the aggressive part)

146 posted on 02/18/2003 9:44:41 AM PST by SENTINEL
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To: airforce19811985; American; antiliberal; Aquinasfan; Arioch7; AStack75; awestk; bd56; betty boop; ..

Be sure to check out post #120

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147 posted on 02/18/2003 9:45:23 AM PST by nutmeg (Liberate Iraq - Support Our Troops!)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
“They’re saying, ‘Why are we over here when everyone’s over here saying we shouldn’t be?’” Oravec said.

Everyone?

Not even close.

148 posted on 02/18/2003 9:46:47 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: 8mmMauser; Acela; AniGrrl; arepublicifyoucankeepit; Atomic Vomit; BM.Maine; bobzeetwin; bogeybob; ..

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149 posted on 02/18/2003 9:47:26 AM PST by nutmeg (Liberate Iraq - Support Our Troops!)
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Be sure to check out post #120!

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150 posted on 02/18/2003 9:48:37 AM PST by nutmeg (Liberate Iraq - Support Our Troops!)
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Be sure to check out post #120!

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151 posted on 02/18/2003 9:50:02 AM PST by nutmeg (Liberate Iraq - Support Our Troops!)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
I remember only too well how they spit on our Vietnam soldiers and threw feces at them. I was ashamed of them then and I'm ashamed of them now. God bless our troops in the Middle East. Pray for them daily. There's an evangelist whose name I can't quite remember, Dave Reever, I think, who always has the Vietnam war veterans come up front and people go wild clapping for them. They usually weep because they remember how the peacepunks treated them after they came home from serving over there. It's a precious moment for them to hear Americans cheering them instead of what they had to go through then.
152 posted on 02/18/2003 9:50:27 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: SENTINEL
WAY TO GO!!!!!
I'm saving that picture and I'm going to circulate it, too.
153 posted on 02/18/2003 9:50:28 AM PST by stanz
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To: .30Carbine; aardvark1; Calvin Locke; chrismurf; Emeraldeyes; farjas; Grendelgrey; nbcnco; ...

Be sure to check out post #120!

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154 posted on 02/18/2003 9:51:37 AM PST by nutmeg (Liberate Iraq - Support Our Troops!)
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To: stanz; SENTINEL
WAY TO GO!!!!!
I'm saving that picture and I'm going to circulate it, too.

Same here - I'm doing the same.

SENTINEL: Your photo is so inspirational!

155 posted on 02/18/2003 9:54:16 AM PST by nutmeg (Liberate Iraq - Support Our Troops!)
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To: Grampa Dave
The 9/11 attacks on the WTC were to me, worse than Pearl Harbor.

I take the 9/11 attacks *very* personally, and I have an instant loathing for those who try to pretend that it didn't happen, that it was our fault or that we're the aggressors.

156 posted on 02/18/2003 9:55:29 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick (The LMDC can go to hell)
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To: doug from upland
Be sure to check out post #120!
157 posted on 02/18/2003 9:55:40 AM PST by nutmeg (Liberate Iraq - Support Our Troops!)
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To: Flurry
Good for you, Flurry. Thank you for supporting our nation in 'Nam. My brother was there,too. He came home a druggie and he's now an alcoholic. I think the way people treated him and other vets did him in. I love our Vietnam vets and have always treated them with the respect they deserve.
158 posted on 02/18/2003 9:59:46 AM PST by Marysecretary
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159 posted on 02/18/2003 10:06:13 AM PST by Stultis
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To: Grampa Dave
In the name of Allah, a god that doesn't even exist! These terrorists have a big surprise coming to them!
160 posted on 02/18/2003 10:08:05 AM PST by Marysecretary
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