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Anti-war Protests Anger U.S. Troops Inside Kuwait
The Detroit News | Tuesday, February 18, 2003 | M.E. Sprengelmeyer

Posted on 02/18/2003 7:26:58 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER

Some see America’s patriotic mood waning.

Campujairi, Kuwait – The peace protesters might as well be marching right under the tank barrels.

U.S. troops amassed in the Kuwaiti desert couldn’t avoid news of anti-war protests that swept the globe over the weekend, and it is making some angry, defensive, fired-up and anxious.

They see scattered news reports of opposition to a possible war against Iraq, but the hardest-hitting bulletins come in phone calls home to worried wives and loved ones, said Sgt. 1st Class Victor Oravec, 41, of Fort Knox, Ky., of the U.S. Army’s 3-7 Cavalry.

“They’re saying, ‘Why are we over here when everyone’s over here saying we shouldn’t be?’” Oravec said.

“They hear it. They bring it up to me, and I squash it by keeping them busy, reminding them why they’re here,” Oravec said, just before leading his tank maintenance unit in an all-night training exercise across the Kuwaiti desert.

Many of the soldiers who might be called to fight against Iraq were too young to remember the emotional protests that marked the end of the Vietnam War. Many had not even been born.

Still, some say they take the anti-war protests personally – questioning the jobs they do and their boss, President Bush.

“They get down,” said Oravec, a veteran of the 1991 war against Iraq. “That’s when I come around, try to get them work to do. That’s the only thing I can think of to keep their minds off home and what their wives are telling them.”

Capt. John Turner, 26, of Colonial Heights, Va., whose father was a med-evac pilot for the Army in Vietnam, said soldiers are not decision-makers and can’t afford to get distracted from their training.

“I’m not in this line of work for political reasons. I didn’t come here to be a politician,” Turner said.

Still, he’s especially angry about opposition at the United Nations from France, a NATO ally.

“How would they feel if it was the Eiffel Tower that got hit into (on Sept. 11)?” he asked.

The troops see a possible war against Iraq as part of the ongoing war on terrorism, as the Bush administration targets alleged weapons of mass destruction that could fall into the hands of terrorists.

Protesters call that an unfounded or unproven claim being used to justify a war to control more of the Middle East’s vast oil reserves.

The “No blood for oil” slogan was used in opposition to the 1991 war, too. But back then, in the war to liberate Kuwait from Iraqi invaders, the protests did not seem as widespread and the troops did not take them so personally, Gulf War veterans said.

“That’s their right to protest as long as they know that’s their opinion, not ours,” said 1st Sgt. Stephen Edgerton, 36, a Gulf War veteran from Blackshear, Ga.

“When you’re younger, you’re a little more eager to go out and pick a fight with somebody,” Edgerton said. “With age, you’re not as quick to jump into things without thinking them out first.”

But for soldiers, he said, the bottom line is simple: “I support my Commander in Chief. That’s my job.”

Pvt. Wesley Carr, 23, of Virginia Beach, Va., said soldiers are the last ones who want to rush into unnecessary wars.

“I can understand why they want to protest, because they don’t want any harm to come to us. But a lot of them don’t understand,” Carr said. “I hope, like everyone else, that it does end peacefully. But if it doesn’t and we have to go to war, we have to think of the safety of the United States and all these people here.”

Privately, some soldiers wonder if the patriotic mood and pro-military spirit in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks has evaporated.

With all its soldiers and high-tech war fighting machines, the U.S. military would not have had all its recent success if the soldiers didn’t get so much support from the public, Edgerton said.

“They don’t have to support what’s happening,” he said, “but at least support the soldiers”

Iraq Update
1st U-2 Mission: Iraq reported the first flight by an American U-2 surveillance plane Monday in support of the U.N. inspection mission, marking another concession by the Baghdad government in hopes of staving off a U.S. –led attack. The flight lasted four hours.

Turkey Delays:
Turkey’s prime minister on Monday ruled out a parliamentary vote to allow tens of thousands of U.S. combat troops on its territory until Turkish and U.S. officials agree on the conditions of the deployment.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: antiamericanpos; appeasementweanies; appeaseniks; democrats; ingrates; janefondalovers; jerks; marxists; saddamsbuddies; supportourtroops; traitors
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To: JohnHuang2
Had #32 pulled so I can send it to Billie and Dutchess as my essay of the week (just in case anybody wonders what happened..hehe :^)

No fair. I'll hire John Edwards and sue for damages. Just kidding.

Can we have Billie and Dutchess repost it? It fit so well here.

101 posted on 02/18/2003 8:50:09 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: Squantos; BOBTHENAILER; piasa; sauropod; DoughtyOne; Grampa Dave; Jeff Head; FreedomPoster; ...
Thanks for the "rant" it woke me up. I am in the middle of watching 100's of our young heros deploy every week. I just called the G3 scheduling branch and asked a friend to let me know when they have units leaving on deployment. There is a ceremony for them on either the parade field or in a field house with at least one General Officer attending. There will now be one tired old civilian attending to wave the flag for them.
102 posted on 02/18/2003 8:52:46 AM PST by SLB
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To: BOBTHENAILER
No fair. I'll hire John Edwards and sue for damages.

lol!!!!

Can we have Billie and Dutchess repost it?

I'd file the lawsuit first, see if they'll settle...hehehe

103 posted on 02/18/2003 8:54:03 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: cgk
signed and bumped - 4,844,243 people have signed to date.
104 posted on 02/18/2003 8:54:15 AM PST by Elkiejg
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Here's my response: PROTESTORS AREN'T ANTI-WAR, They are anti-Bush and anti-American
105 posted on 02/18/2003 8:54:22 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: BOBTHENAILER; JohnHuang2
Re John having the admin moderator pull his #32.

John is now an Indian Giver re his replies.

We complimented on his good words, and he pulled his reply to make it a big time piece on FR!
106 posted on 02/18/2003 8:56:02 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: Dont Mention the War; KKing; bkwells; MikeWUSAF
Pinging a few FReepers who need to see this...

Guys, pass around this info to your buddies if you need to.
You may be getting a belly-full of bad news from the local outlets, but the real story is that most of the Free World is very much in support of our cause and supports you.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
107 posted on 02/18/2003 8:56:04 AM PST by HiJinx (SFC, USA (Ret))
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To: Grampa Dave
Okay, I got Grampa mad -- now I know I'm in trouble...;^)
108 posted on 02/18/2003 8:58:26 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: SLB; BlueLancer; SAMWolf
I know there are a lot of us ol' soldiers who are also FReepers...

I haven't attended a going-away, yet. Our guys usually leave in the middle of the night. I do take every opportunity to thank the National Guard troops at the front gates. They're here as augmentees to provide security at all access points. They deserve out support, too.

HJ
109 posted on 02/18/2003 9:01:28 AM PST by HiJinx (SFC, USA (Ret))
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To: HiJinx; Dont Mention the War; KKing; bkwells; MikeWUSAF
You may be getting a belly-full of bad news from the local outlets, but the real story is that most of the Free World is very much in support of our cause and supports you. Thank you from the bottom of my heart!

And from me, my family, about a thousand of my friends, about 70,000 FReeRepublic members & 280 million Americans smart enough to ignore the idiots on the street.

110 posted on 02/18/2003 9:01:37 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
i agree!!!!........time to bomb all of them ..bagdad, bonn and paris!.......... and the dems too!
111 posted on 02/18/2003 9:03:21 AM PST by rrrod
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To: stuartcr
Nope. This is not Vietnam Part Deux. We have a commander in chief who understands his role as commander in chief. The pukes in the street will not deter him from what must be done.
112 posted on 02/18/2003 9:03:36 AM PST by doug from upland (May the Clintons begin living in orange jumpsuits sharing the same 6 x 9 cell with an RNC webcam.)
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To: grumpdawg485
No basically I don't like being called stupid or baby killer. Maybe you'd like it. I did not feel the need to throw the whole exchange out so I summarized. When logic fails and usually with a liberal there is no debate because they are right and you are wrong. My neck was sore so after I turned the other cheek acouple of times I got over it. I am not violent. I hate war. But I have no respect for people who have no respect for people.
113 posted on 02/18/2003 9:04:43 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (RW&B)
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To: SLB
GOD BLESS YA STEVE !........Thank You !!.....Stay Safe !!
114 posted on 02/18/2003 9:05:19 AM PST by Squantos (RKBA the original version of Homeland Security .....the one proven method that works !)
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To: Mo1
Thank you for your post!

if these protesters were so concerned about the women and child in Iraq, then were have they been for the last 25 years

Indeed! Excellent point.

115 posted on 02/18/2003 9:05:23 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Thanks, BOB.

The guys I pinged are regular visitors to the Canteen, men who aren't hesitant about speaking out. They're out there on the front lines of our war on terror, and they know the level of support here in the US. It's guys like you who are making the difference, providing them another (real!) view of what's going on at home.

Keep the faith, FRiend!
116 posted on 02/18/2003 9:06:34 AM PST by HiJinx (SFC, USA (Ret))
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To: JohnHuang2
Sure John, post a great reply to Bob the Nailer and then pull it, to use in a bigger thread!

Funny, I just about sent you a freep mail saying that reply should be one of your Two Cents threads and then I saw what you did.

The reply in today's environment needs as much wave length and time as you can get. Just ping your peons when you return it to us, King John! :)
117 posted on 02/18/2003 9:06:53 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: dixiechick2000
Thank you for your post!

Hopefully, we will win so swiftly and decisively that they will be relegated to the dustbin of history...forever

Absolutely! This is a wonderful opportunity to do just that.

118 posted on 02/18/2003 9:07:12 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: 1Old Pro
Great job my FRiend.
119 posted on 02/18/2003 9:07:49 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER

"YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF PARASITIC MAGGOTS, UNWORTHY OF YOUR FREEDOM !!" Barks Freeper SENTINEL (USMC) through his megaphone who was standing alone in a group of 300 peaceniks Saturday in Anchorage.

People, our troops deserve to see this level of protection for them, we need to let them know that we are not letting the country go to pot (no pun intended) while they are away.

Send your sons this pic and all the others like it, AND GET TO THE NEXT RALLY to help the morale of our troops !

120 posted on 02/18/2003 9:12:15 AM PST by SENTINEL
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