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Please FReep Hannity Radio Show. He's listing to Hack again!
Hannity on ABC radio ^ | 03/17/03 | Hannity

Posted on 02/17/2003 1:00:49 PM PST by W04Man

I can't believe Hannity is allowing Col Hackworth (Ret) to run down the Active Duty Military again. Talking about some devective "protective gear", if you get my drift. Why would he continue to spew out all this crap that will be swollowed up by our enemies? Why doesn't Hannity get the story from the Active Duty people? If there really is a problem, why give the info to our enemy?????

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To: honway; harpseal; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; Always A Marine; sneakypete
Post some reference/resource, or get another Freeper or two in here(one who is reputable--I even called few of my own) and I will withdraw totally. This is news to me, your accusation, so I would like some confirmation.

...please...

SR

81 posted on 02/17/2003 3:49:24 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep
I dont care to do so either sit-rep considering more often than not it has been my experience that a pissing match tends to be more a waste of valuable time than anything else .

I do take an opposing position than you do with regards to the double airing you refer to . If it needs to be taught more than once then it needs to be taught . Factual knowledge & information is a good thing wich I believe you would agree . Good day Sir .

82 posted on 02/17/2003 3:55:08 PM PST by Ben Bolt
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To: sit-rep
http://www.sfu.ca/~dann/Backissues/nn6-2_13.htm

The Defence Associations National Network

In The fall of 1997, Hack with Col. Carl Bernard, and LTC Roger Charles, USMC, founded Soldiers for The Truth, an organisation to fight for the interests of the American grunt. (Carl Bernard is a survivor of Task Force Smith, the scratch US force sent from Okinawa to Korea when the North invaded in June 1950. Mr. Bernard became a Green Beret, and served in Laos with Operation White Star, the joint CIA/Special Forces program to train Lao anti-communist forces. Rog Charles was a Marine platoon commander in Viet Nam. He is the journalist who broke the Admiral Boorda story in 1996).

The following forward from Soldiers for the Truth concerns all the fancy modern gadgetry Mr. Thompson was impressed with when he visited Fort Campbell. Hack, and others, have long been arguing against relying entirely upon the fancy gizmos, as they can (and DO!) fail in combat.

Here are the web site and e-mail addresses for Soldiers For the Truth:

http://www.sfttruth.org (Website was not operating at time of posting this article)

83 posted on 02/17/2003 3:56:16 PM PST by honway
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To: sit-rep
See the link in #79 for the link between Hack's buddy Roger Charles and John Podesta.
84 posted on 02/17/2003 3:57:53 PM PST by honway
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To: W04Man
Jeez, leave Sean alone.
85 posted on 02/17/2003 4:00:57 PM PST by Bob J (Join the Free Republic Network! www.freerepublic.net)
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To: sit-rep
Bio on John Podesta

John Podesta served as Chief of Staff to President Clinton. In that capacity, he was responsible for directing, managing, and overseeing all policy development, daily operations, and staff activities of the White House and coordinates the work of federal departments and agencies. President Clinton appointed him to the position in October 1998.

Mr. Podesta first served in the Clinton Administration from January 1993 to 1995 as Assistant to the President and Staff Secretary. In that capacity, he managed the paper flow to and from the President, including coordination of White House Senior Staff advice on Presidential decision memoranda and approval on all Presidential documents. He also served as a senior policy advisor to the President on government information, privacy, telecommunications security and regulatory policy.

Following his tenure as Staff Secretary, Mr. Podesta joined the faculty of The Georgetown University Law Center, his alma mater, as a Visiting Professor of Law, teaching courses on congressional investigations, legislation, copyright and public interest law.

In January 1997, Mr. Podesta returned to the White House as an Assistant to the President and Deputy Chief of Staff where he managed policy initiatives, developed overall legislative and communications strategy, and coordinated the selection of senior Administration appointments, including federal judges.

John Podesta has held a number of positions on Capitol Hill including: Counselor to Democratic Leader Senator Thomas A. Daschle (1995-1996); Chief Counsel for the Senate Agriculture Committee (1987-1988); Chief Minority Counsel for the Senate Judiciary Subcommittees on Patents, Copyrights, and Trademarks; Security and Terrorism; and Regulatory Reform; and Counsel on the Majority Staff of the Senate Judiciary Committee (1979-1981).

86 posted on 02/17/2003 4:02:44 PM PST by honway
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I've seen all of this, years ago...show me some resource about him moving to the outback because of Reagans' policies... and moving back under Clinton.
87 posted on 02/17/2003 4:03:35 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep
http://www.hackworth.com/biography.html

With all his many awards, Hack still considers the Combat Infantryman Badge and the United Nations Medal for Peace -- which he was presented for his anti-nuclear work in Australia -- his "highest awards.
88 posted on 02/17/2003 4:04:18 PM PST by honway
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To: honway
. Hack, and others, have long been arguing against relying entirely upon the fancy gizmos, as they can (and DO!) fail in combat

You do not think this is true???????

Geez...Where are you at man?

SR

89 posted on 02/17/2003 4:07:23 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep
show me some resource about him moving to the outback because of Reagans' policies... and moving back under Clinton.

United Nations Medal for Peace -- which he was presented for his anti-nuclear work in Australia -- his "highest awards.

The "anti-nuclear work" he mentions in his bio was protesting Ronald Reagans's defense policy. What did you think the U.N. award was for, protesting nuclear power plants in Australia?

90 posted on 02/17/2003 4:11:09 PM PST by honway
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To: honway
I got news for you buddy... You are barking up the wrong tree. For one, Nuke 'em till they glow policy today will indeed not work.

Reagan was not mentioned in this link...got another???

SR

91 posted on 02/17/2003 4:11:52 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: honway
United Nations Medal for Peace

Any Political person would! You are now known globally for your views, not just nationally.

92 posted on 02/17/2003 4:14:37 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: W04Man
Anybody else here actually wear a MOP suit? Hackworth is right and he is wrong. The equipment was good for it's time and place, but... wearing it in the desert will suck big time.

Think of yourself as the turkey inside a Reynold's oven bag on Thanksgiving, and you will get an idea of the experience of a soldier fighting in it during a war in the Iraqi summer.

You can not put the thing on after the attack already hits, so basically you will be all suited up, with the mask in it's pouch around your waste, and you will be sweating bricks. An attack taking place at say 9 in the morning, with residual firing during the next several hours, contaminating the air for the next 12 hours will end up killing a ton of people. Those who have leaks in their suits will die right away of course. Those trying to fight, inside those babies for that period of time, will begin to start dropping of heat exhaustion, stroke, you name it.

The problem is money of course. Gear could be made better, but at a multiple exponential cost.

We have to suck it up for now, because it is better than nothing, but Hack is right, that this is not a long term solution in general, and a good option in the desert in particular.

93 posted on 02/17/2003 4:15:39 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: honway
I would agree with Colonel Hackworth on that point . To much reliance on technology is not in the best interest of the folks who need to maintain the sharp edge necessary to kill the enemy in a face to face situation .

A nice marriage of both is ideal . I'd like to see more emphasis and human resources put into the intelligence services for example .

94 posted on 02/17/2003 4:16:10 PM PST by Ben Bolt
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To: sit-rep

John Podesta was one of the key actors in the most corrupt administration in U.S. history. John Podeata and Roger Charles are closely connected. Roger Charles and Hackworth are long time friends, they are closely connected and they both contributed to spreading the lies about Admiral Boorda's right to wear the "V" device on his Vietnam Service ribbon. Lies corrected by a Vietnam era Chief of Naval Operations.
95 posted on 02/17/2003 4:16:45 PM PST by honway
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To: honway
Then let me aks you this... Why then, was Hack so down on the military when the jag-off was president?? Here was worse than he is now, and the only reason some here are bitching is because now he's getting the telivision instead of just radio. Why, if what you say is true, did the Clinton groupies not allow him TV time if he's that "connected"??
96 posted on 02/17/2003 4:20:56 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep
oops...

telivision = television

97 posted on 02/17/2003 4:29:22 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep
Link

Well, see, what apparently inspired this movie was that in November of ’79 and twice in June of ’80, maybe this is the same thing you’re talking about, they had computer malfunctions at NORAD, and it did signal that the U.S. was under attack by Soviet missiles, and American forces were put on alert. They figured it out within about 60 seconds or so, but that’s, of course that’s, when you were in Australia resting up, so you could come back here and kick hiney, right? You’ve been quite a critic of the military.

Hackworth: I was, at that point in time, I was involved in, and eventually leading, the anti-nuclear movement in Australia, for this very reason. The more I got into it, the first thing that bothered me was, Ronald Reagan and “evil empire” and all of that, frothing at the mouth at how we could use nuclear weapons, and yes we could lose 40,000,000 people, but it would be like losing a leg, no big thing. Or like stepping on an anthill, was another one of his expressions, and I thought, “Wow, how did this guy from a B-grade movie become the man with his finger on the button!” And I decided, at that time, to sound off and try to wake up Australia, and maybe more of the world.

Wow, he said we could lose 40 million, no problem?

Hackworth: Wouldn’t be a big thing.
OK, well…

Hackworth: He wouldn’t remember that right now.

No he wouldn’t. Let’s see if we can get to Defcom 3. Roll it.

[fading] Did you eat Vegamite, when you lived in Australia?
Hackworth: I did, I love Vegamite!
Oh my God, I think that stuff is vile. It’s like spreading stale, evaporated beer on a piece of toast.

Hackworth: You only had it once. Now you gotta try it twice

98 posted on 02/17/2003 4:36:36 PM PST by honway
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Hackworth: He wouldn’t remember that right now.

That Hackworth is a class act. He is referring to the greatest U.S. President in over a hundred years,if not more. Thanks for giving this individual a forum, Mr. Hannity.

99 posted on 02/17/2003 4:40:38 PM PST by honway
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Admiral Jeremy Boorda was one of the greatest admirals
the United States ever produced. I am seeing a pattern here.
100 posted on 02/17/2003 4:42:08 PM PST by honway
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