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The Unseen Agony of Black-on-Black Homicide
Los Angeles Times ^
| Jan. 27, 03
| Jill Leovy
Posted on 02/15/2003 11:04:38 AM PST by churchillbuff
MORTAL WOUNDS The Unseen Agony of Black-on-Black Homicide An endless scourge of murders of and by African Americans is little noticed elsewhere, but those who must live with the aftermath are changed forever.
January 27, 2003
By Jill Leovy, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
Lewis Wright was at a pay phone when he learned his son had been murdered. ...
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The truth caught up with him at the Los Angeles County coroner's office, a sprawling concrete building in Lincoln Heights. ... A man in a suit brought a photo, and laid it face down on the scratched hardwood table. ...
People across Los Angeles know there is a murder problem.
But most don't have to see it.
Last year, homicides in Los Angeles jumped 10%, prompting Police Chief William J. Bratton to call for a new anti-gang campaign. The rise in homicides made headlines. But the killings fell into an old pattern. For the fifth year in a row, about 40% of the victims were African American, even though blacks compose just 11% of the city's population....
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Authorities say most black homicide victims die at the hands of other blacks. Witnesses often are afraid to step forward. Few killers are caught. They live alongside law-abiding neighbors, bragging, bullying, daring justice. Or they have been killed themselves. In interviews over four months in homes, hospitals and police stations and on city streets, dozens of people who have been affected by homicide spoke of the invisibility of this pain.
Nearly all expressed the sense that society cares less when victims are black. ...
Today, ask black people in South Los Angeles whether responsibility should be assigned to political leaders, or to the rest of the city, and you sometimes get blank looks.
"Why should they be asked to care?" asked Capt. Cecil Rhambo, who grew up in South-Central and now runs the sheriff's station in Compton. "Should I blame you because you're white?
"Oh, I know, people will call me an Uncle Tom. But people don't see it. We can go to school now. We can get jobs. So blame us.... Now the enemy is us."
But anger at a complacent white society also is commonly voiced. ....
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; racism; reverseracism
""black people in South Los Angeles whether responsibility should be assigned to political leaders, or to the rest of the city, and you sometimes get blank looks.""
Here's the problem: If the monsters who do these crimes get locked up, you hear complaints that "blacks are disproportionately imprisoned." but if the DON'T get locked up, the complaint is, "whites don't care about the murders of blacks." I pin the blame on black "leaders" like Jesse - - for them, a black life lost has no value unless a white guy was the killer.
"Anger at a complacent white society is voiced." --- Yeah, but there's also anger when a law-and-order type like former Chief Darryl Gates tries to go after bad guys in the black community - - then he's a "racist." The whole scene is dysfunctional-- whites are damned if they do, or if they don't. The real culprits are Jesse, Maxine, Al, and the stickin lot of black racist demagogues.
To: churchillbuff
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posted on
02/15/2003 11:17:29 AM PST
by
philo
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posted on
02/15/2003 11:17:31 AM PST
by
harpseal
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
To: churchillbuff
Black leaders like Maxine, Jesse, and Al have a solution, long-term: abort as many black prenatal individuals as possible and reduce the potential base from which crime may arise. [It's decidedly a racists notion, stamping a predictable percentage of black children as merely future criminals, but hey, Maxine and Jesse and Al can't be racists, right?... That's the real 'rest of the story' on the perils of black people in America, black leadership that considers wholesale slaughter of unborn blacks as a means to an end.]
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posted on
02/15/2003 11:32:02 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
To: churchillbuff
"Anger at a complacent white society is voiced." --- Yeah, but there's also anger when a law-and-order type like former Chief Darryl Gates tries to go after bad guys in the black community - - then he's a "racist." The whole scene is dysfunctional-- whites are damned if they do, or if they don't. The real culprits are Jesse, Maxine, Al, and the stickin lot of black racist demagogues. Ain't that the truth.
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02/15/2003 11:36:31 AM PST
by
expatpat
To: churchillbuff
It isn't unseen. It's ignored by the race baiters of the so called leaders of the black community.
To acknowledge problems in the community would be to lose the ability to blame ALL the problems on white people.
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02/15/2003 11:53:29 AM PST
by
OldFriend
(Pray)
To: churchillbuff
Funny, how a tribal society will tolerate anything from within, but is very sensitive to the outer world by extension. Unseen agony of black-on-black crime of the blind eye type. The only true crime is white-on-black or black-by-others, or white-on-others, but the real crime that makes News headlines is WhiteMale-on-anyothers....
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posted on
02/15/2003 12:08:58 PM PST
by
Jumper
To: churchillbuff
Rev. Jesse Peterson and BOND have been trying to address the root issues...
But the poverty pimps like Mckinney and Jesse "The beer king" Jackson and Al "cowboy" Sharpton & their media enablers dont want the truth to get out...they need to keep blacks down in order to elevate themselves as 'saviors'...
Collecting from both sides and gettin phat
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posted on
02/15/2003 12:17:18 PM PST
by
joesnuffy
To: churchillbuff
"Why should they be asked to care?" asked Capt. Cecil Rhambo, who grew up in South-Central and now runs the sheriff's station in Compton. "Should I blame you because you're white? "Oh, I know, people will call me an Uncle Tom. But people don't see it. We can go to school now. We can get jobs. So blame us.... Now the enemy is us." Wow, I bet this quote gets replayed to death on the network news.
Nearly all expressed the sense that society cares less when victims are black. ...
Dropping the sarcasm, I do believe this statement. After all, it didn't become a "crack epidemic" until it was "discovered" that kids in the suburbs were doing crack, too.
To: joesnuffy
Drug addicts and alcoholics cannot be cured until they acknowledge their problem and until they take full responsibility for their own condition. What is true for individuals also holds for groups.
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02/15/2003 12:34:47 PM PST
by
monocle
To: mhking
For the ping list...
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posted on
02/15/2003 12:36:24 PM PST
by
TomServo
To: babaloo999
Society is inclusive not exclusive. The whites can't care more about black victims than blacks care about black victims themselves. Maybe 'care' is not the word to use, maybe it should be understand, or comprehend. I sure don't understand what I saw on the video at the gas station in D.C. where people ignored the shooting of a person.
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posted on
02/15/2003 2:38:32 PM PST
by
pacpam
To: churchillbuff
But anger at a complacent white society also is commonly voiced. .... See?
When a white individual kills a black individual --however much out of passion -- that is the fault of white America as a whole. And when a black person kills a black person, that, too, is the fault of white America.
If you were not technically responsible, well, you are complacent about this problem, and if you aren't, then you probably were at some point --they're suuuuure of it. Indeed, the echoes from a society-hating, homo muslim snipers could just as soon have stopped echoing off DC hillsides than you would be suspected of doing something that will merit the wrath of these folks...
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posted on
02/15/2003 2:55:10 PM PST
by
gaijin
To: churchillbuff
But anger at a complacent white society also is commonly voiced. ....It is not a "complacent" white society, which harasses the Police, when they crack down on crime in a Negro neighborhood. The culprits are a few frothy Whites, who set out to remake America, and the Black agitators, who accepted the propaganda of those frothy Whites, and began undermining their own society and culture in the name of "Civil Rights." The Left is a group operation, but it is not "complacent" whites who fuel it.
To understand the pathology of what is happening--and how damaging it is to the interests of normal people of every race, see A Pavlovian Kennel. American public reactions to racial problems ceased to be rational a long time ago. The Captain quoted is a rare exception. Most people Black or White, do not want to invite the storm of abuse that comes to almost anyone who elects to say something rational.
William Flax
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posted on
02/15/2003 3:10:02 PM PST
by
Ohioan
To: churchillbuff
Call me a raciest if you must, but I will say it like it is. If the diagnosis of the disease is lied about, the cure will never come. It's a black thing! In Africa they use machettis or whatever else is available and here they use mainly guns. Choice of weapon or the availability there of is of no importance, nor is the culture of the greater society in which they dwell. It is a black thing, and cannot be dealt with in a serious and successful manner until this reality is faced up to and admitted.
Amplifying every white on black murder and not publishing the race of a criminal who happens to be black, is a detriment to a cure. Honesty is our friend. This is our America, we savor and rejoice in the good and suffer and despair in the bad. We need to save her for us and ours, and make her better and stronger and become even more united. We are not fleeing to the lands of our ancestors, but our distant kin at the risk of their lives- are fleeing to this-our Paradice.
God bless America-and elighten her enemies. Amen.
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02/15/2003 3:11:36 PM PST
by
F.J. Mitchell
(Funny, I always thought the Main Stream was deeper and swifter than that.)
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posted on
02/16/2003 6:12:52 AM PST
by
mhking
("The home team Iraqis have won the toss and elected to receive...")
To: churchillbuff
The violent movies that glorify boyz in the hood with attitudes, are part of the problem, IMO. The dudes in these films are their role models. That's why you see young black males continuing to kill each other when they feel dissed. Stupid senseless murders. We had two recent incidents in the last two weeks in Pittsburgh PA. Young black guys in an alley arguing about a girl, rubbish like that.
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posted on
02/16/2003 10:11:41 AM PST
by
Ciexyz
To: babaloo999
Dropping the sarcasm, I do believe this statement. After all, it didn't become a "crack epidemic" until it was "discovered" that kids in the suburbs were doing crack, too.Ooooh! No you didn't! You didn't just go there.
Seriously, you are quite correct. No portion of a society exists in a vacuum.
Tony Brown's book Black Lies, White Lies powerfully explains this point. If you hadn't read it, I highly suggest that you do.
T-minus 28 days until the birth of Tha SYNDICATE, the philosophical heir to William Lloyd Garrison.
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posted on
02/16/2003 12:06:58 PM PST
by
rdb3
(Hit 'em with that Nina, man. Or my .44 that's guaranteed to lean 'em, man. Whoa!)
To: churchillbuff
They have zero respect for authorities in these places...they spit on the police when they show up and look the other way when a brother gets shot...they get what they deserve....decent black folks get what they deserve for keeping their mouths shut too...if a white cop kills a black crack dealer they march in the streets...ahhhhh..it's no use...if they don't care, i don't care either.
To: rdb3
Heh, I did leave out "white kids" in favor of "kids in the suburbs" but that's just the way it is, I suppose.
Things just don't make it on the evening news until it's happening in "mainstream America".
I have no problem mentioning things like that. Hell, I lived in Dallas from '86-'92 so you can understand why I developed a bad attitude about things like this, LOL.
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