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Pretty boys can think [Clooney says Bush ran away on 9/11]
The Guardian (UK) ^ | February 15, 2003 | Sally Vincent

Posted on 02/15/2003 7:09:24 AM PST by aculeus

If you're a hugely bankable Hollywood star, there are certain expectations of you. Maintain your profile, toe the line and keep schtum about politics. George Clooney, on the other hand, is hollering his disdain for his government and its dumb war plans, and he's directed his own, somewhat risky, film. Interview by Sally Vincent.

[Fanmag fluff snipped.]

"The question is," he goes on, "do we go on murdering each other, or are we going to take time out to ask ourselves why we're so angry in the first place? I get mad at someone, then I find out more about why they did what they did to make me mad, and the anger disperses. We get angry because we don't have enough information." His mousseline is now neatly stacked on the side of his plate. All tidied away.

"It's the head guys who really tick me off," he says. "You dumb down at the top, so what does that do to the bottom? Who's going to stand up for us now? I just want someone smart to stand up and shout, 'Bullsh**!' They tell us we're going to war and no one's saying 'Bullsh**' loud enough. And the language! Listen to the language! 'Evil.' 'Evil'? 'Nexus of evil'? 'Evil-doer'? That's my favourite, 'Evil-doer'! What's wrong with their vocabulary: couldn't they come up with 'schmuck'?"

This makes me laugh uncontrollably. I wonder if he'll mind if I gobble up his mousseline. "Look at us," he cries, "we're the guys who marched into France and liberated them, handing out stockings and chocolate. And we've slowly become all the things we fought against. How'd it happen?"

I feel the soul of America is at large. The words of Walt Whitman beat in my brain. "O Captain! My Captain!" I bleat. Clooney looks at me sideways. "We're so smart we don't even try to elect a leader. We elect someone to manage our country. Bush was elected, or sort of elected, on the issues of school vouchers and welfare reform. When the big one hit, we found we didn't have a leader at all. What did Bush do on 9/11? He ran away and hid. Even Reagan knew more about leadership than that, and he was as bad a symbol of America as I can think of, off-hand. But at least he's been in enough cowboy movies to know he had to come out and stand on top of the rubble and be seen shaking his fist or something. What has it all come down to? Selling things on television, is what. The three-second soundbite. We don't have any great speakers any more, we don't have great television any more, we don't have great films any more. Everything's knocked out by committee. That's how it is. How we deal with everything. That's politics. You turn on the TV for the news now and what do you get? 'Showdown in Iraq!' it goes, like it's a game. The news is a f***king game show. They're selling us a pre-emptive war and no one says, 'Bullsh**'. It's a conglomerate decision, all rounded off to make it palatable so we'll swallow it, believe it. But it's a lie. Of course it's a lie. We've been lying to ourselves since Vietnam. And if you say that, if you stand up and say no to the war in Iraq, immediately you're being 'unpatriotic'. But if you don't, if it's not you, who the f**k's it going to be?"

O Captain! My Captain! "It's not my place. I'm not a big, like, yogi guy, I'm just a stoopid film star. Stooooopid, goofball film star."

"Big guru guy," I say.

"Big guru guy," he says.

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To: aculeus
I'll say "Bullsh**" right now. George Clooney is Bullsh**.
61 posted on 02/15/2003 8:22:30 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Yippee Kai Aye......")
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To: Jewels1091
I wish I could go face to face with him.

He's sure AVOIDING the hell outta Bill O'Reilly, huh? Can you imagine the blood-bath?

62 posted on 02/15/2003 8:22:38 AM PST by geedee
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To: buffyt; PetiteMericco; NewCenturions


What are you trying to say? *snicker*

63 posted on 02/15/2003 8:25:46 AM PST by lorrainer (Citing Ann Coulter rule)
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To: aculeus
Here's what gives George Looney his air of superiority. I warn you to hold onto your seats, when the uncontrollable laughter sets in! (I've not heard of a lot of this schlock)

Ocean's Twelve (2004) .... Danny Ocean

Intolerable Cruelty (2003) .... Miles Massey

Confessions of a Dangerous Mind (2002) .... Jim Byrd

Solaris (2002) .... Kelvin

Shirtless: Hollywood's Sexiest Men (2002) (TV) (uncredited) (archive footage) .... Himself

Welcome to Collinwood (2002) .... Jerzy

Starbuck Holger Meins (2002) .... Himself

Ocean's Eleven (2001) .... Daniel 'Danny' Ocean ... aka 11 (2001) (USA: poster title) ... aka O11 (2001) (USA: informal short title)

America: A Tribute to Heroes (2001) (TV) .... Himself

Spy Kids (2001) .... Devlin

Revisiting Fail-Safe (2000) (V) .... Himself

Inside Look: Down from the Mountain (2000) (TV) .... Himself

2000 MTV Movie Awards (2000) (TV) .... Presenter

Perfect Storm, The (2000) .... Captain Billy Tyne

O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000) .... Ulysses Everett McGill ... aka O' Brother (2000) (France)

Fail Safe (2000) (TV) .... Col. Jack Grady, Command Pilot Group 6

Book That Wrote Itself, The (1999) .... Himself

Three Kings (1999) .... Maj. Archie Gates

South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut (1999) (voice) .... Dr. Gouache/Dr. Doctor

Playmate Pajama Party (1999) (V) (archive footage) (uncredited) .... Himself

Waiting for Woody (1998) .... Himself

Thin Red Line, The (1998) .... Capt. Charles Bosche

Out of Sight (1998) .... John Michael 'Jack' Foley

Peacemaker, The (1997) .... Colonel Thomas Devoe

Full Tilt Boogie (1997) .... Himself

Town Meeting with Diane Sawyer: Celebrities vs. the Press (1997) (TV) .... Himself

Batman & Robin (1997) .... Batman/Bruce Wayne

One Fine Day (1996) .... Jack Taylor

Curdled (1996) (uncredited) .... Seth Gecko

From Dusk Till Dawn (1996) .... Seth Gecko

Golden Anniversary (1995) (TV) .... Himself ... aka Rosemary Clooney's Demi-Centennial (1995) (TV) (USA: complete title) ... aka Rosemary Clooney's Golden Anniversary (1995) (TV) (USA)

"ER" (1994) TV Series .... Dr. Doug Ross (1994-1999)

ER (1994) (TV) .... Dr. Douglas 'Doug' Ross

"Sisters" (1991) TV Series .... Detective James Falconer (1993-1994)

Harvest, The (1993) .... Lip Syncing Transvestite

Without Warning: Terror in the Towers (1993) (TV) .... Kevin Shea

Unbecoming Age (1992) .... Mac ... aka Magic Bubble, The (1992)

"Bodies of Evidence" (1992) TV Series .... Detective Ryan Walker

"Baby Talk" (1991) TV Series .... Joe (1991)

Red Surf (1990) .... Remar

"Sunset Beat" (1990) TV Series .... Chic Chesbro

Sunset Beat (1990) (TV) .... Chic Chesbro

"Roseanne" (1988) TV Series .... Booker Brooks (1988-1989)

Return of the Killer Tomatoes! (1988) .... Matt Stevens ... aka Return of the Killer Tomatoes: The Sequel (1988) (USA: video box title)

Grizzly II: The Predator (1987)

Return to Horror High (1987) .... Oliver

Combat High (1986) (TV) .... Maj. Biff Woods ... aka Combat Academy (1986) (TV)

"Facts of Life, The" (1979) TV Series .... George Burnett (1985-1987)

"E/R" (1984) TV Series .... Mark 'Ace' Kolmar

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Filmography as: Actor, Producer, Director, Writer, Notable TV Guest Appearances

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Producer - filmography (2000s) (1990s)

Ocean's Twelve (2004) (executive producer)

Far from Heaven (2002) (executive producer)

Welcome to Collinwood (2002) (executive producer) (producer)

Insomnia (2002) (executive producer)

Rock Star (2001) (executive producer)

Fail Safe (2000) (TV) (executive producer)

Kilroy (1999) (TV) (producer)

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Filmography as: Actor, Producer, Director, Writer, Notable TV Guest Appearances

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Director - filmography

Confessions of a Dangerous Mind (2002)

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Filmography as: Actor, Producer, Director, Writer, Notable TV Guest Appearances

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Writer - filmography

Kilroy (1999) (TV)

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Filmography as: Actor, Producer, Director, Writer, Notable TV Guest Appearances

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Notable TV Guest Appearances

"Revealed with Jules Asner" (2001) playing "Himself" in episode: "George Clooney" 27 November 2002

"ER" (1994) playing "Dr. Doug Ross" (uncredited) in episode: "Such Sweet Sorrow" (episode # 6.21) 11 May 2000

"Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn, The" (1999) playing "Himself" 30 September 1999

"Howard Stern Show, The" (1994) playing "Himself" 25 July 1999

"ER" (1994) playing "Dr. Doug Ross" (uncredited; voice) in episode: "Responsible Parties" (episode # 5.21) 13 May 1999

"Murphy Brown" (1988) playing "Doctor #2" in episode: "Never Can Say Goodbye: Part 2" (episode # 10.22) 18 May 1998

"South Park" (1997) playing "Sparky" (voice) in episode: "Big Gay Al's Big Gay Boat Ride" (episode # 1.4) 3 September 1997

"Friends" (1994) playing "Dr. Michael Mitchell" in episode: "One with Two Parts, The: Part 2" (episode # 1.16) 23 February 1995

"Building, The" (1993) playing "Bonnie's Fiancee" in episode: "Pilot" (episode # 1.1) 20 August 1993

"Roseanne" (1988) playing "Booker" in episode: "Trick Me Up, Trick Me Down" (episode # 4.6) 29 October 1991

"Golden Girls, The" (1985) playing "Bobby Hopkins" in episode: "To Catch a Neighbor" (episode # 2.24) 2 May 1987

"Murder, She Wrote" (1984) playing "Kip Howard" in episode: "No Laughing Murder" (episode # 3.18) 15 March 1987

"Hunter" (1984) playing "Matthew Winfield" in episode: "Double Exposure" (episode # 3.15) 14 February 1987

"Facts of Life, The" (1979) playing "George Burnett" in episode: "A Star is Torn" (episode # 8.15) 31 January 1987

"Facts of Life, The" (1979) playing "George Burnett" in episode: "Seven Little Indians" (episode # 8.12) 3 January 1987

"Facts of Life, The" (1979) playing "George Burnett" in episode: "Write and Wrong" (episode # 8.11) 13 December 1986

"Hotel" (1983) playing "Nick Miller" in episode: "Recriminations" (episode # 3.13) 29 January 1986

"Crazy Like a Fox" (1984) in episode: "Suitable for Framing" (episode # 1.12) 31 March 1985

"Street Hawk" (1985) playing "Kevin Stark" in episode: "A Second Self" (episode # 1.2) 11 January 1985

"Riptide" (1984) playing "Lenny Colwell" in episode: "Where the Girls Are" (episode # 2.1) 2 October 1984

64 posted on 02/15/2003 8:28:10 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: aculeus
"Look at us," he cries, "we're the guys who marched into France and liberated them, handing out stockings and chocolate. And we've slowly become all the things we fought against

I wish this guy would say this on TV, my grandfather who fought in France would like to get ahold of this guy. Good Lord, what an idiot between this and his Heston comments this guy is proving that he has alytzhymers(sp). I mean it, reading this article REALLY makes me mad, as in I would hit the SOB if I saw him now. It would almost be worth the day or two I sit in a jail cell.

65 posted on 02/15/2003 8:32:23 AM PST by Blue Scourge (Real American...)
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To: WFTR
As a "devout" Texan, I found your link interesting as hell. I'd never heard the Texas-Kuwait comparison before . . . but I can say this, we'd still be fighting if a foreign army -- the U.S. in your link -- had tried to annex us against our will.

But even more important is this...the rest of the world just doesn't comprende that that's not how the United States does things. We could've made Germany the 51st state if we'd wanted to -- or would it have been the 49th or 50th because of Hawaii and...ahhh, hell, you know what I'm talking about. And we could've added France . . . but who wants that cesspool. Puerto Rico, the Phillipines, etc.

Especially today, if we REALLY WANTED to annex ANY country, we could pick and choose with impunity. But we ain't threaded that way. Looney's like Clooney and all the others who say "it's just about the oil" and how "imperialistic" we are are just afflicted with a terminal case of the teenie-weenie complex.

66 posted on 02/15/2003 8:35:53 AM PST by geedee
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To: aculeus
Listen to the language! 'Evil.' 'Evil'? 'Nexus of evil'? 'Evil-doer'? That's my favourite, 'Evil-doer'! What's wrong with their vocabulary: couldn't they come up with 'schmuck'?"

This is where ignorance get you ... and the irony of calling Bush ignorant ... The term 'evil-doer' has religious connotations that speaks in the language the ones who did it understand, but this boob thinks we can call Bin Laden Yiddish names?!?

Anti-Bush Hollywood loud mouths are 'schmucks' ... Bin laden and followers are 'evil-doers'. Got it?

67 posted on 02/15/2003 8:36:41 AM PST by WOSG
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To: aculeus
That cretin's career is so over.
68 posted on 02/15/2003 8:36:59 AM PST by Search4Truth (Liberalism is a mental illness.)
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To: PetiteMericco
Gee... what a man, uh?

It is stunning to me that these people, who do well in Hollywood, cannot stomach the price of freedom most are willing to fight for, as they lie in the lap of luxury.

What a coward.

How many USO shows has this guy done for our troops overseas?

Ya wonder what aunt Rosemary must be thinking?

69 posted on 02/15/2003 8:38:55 AM PST by Northern Yankee (We... Band of Brothers!)
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To: aculeus
Yawn
70 posted on 02/15/2003 8:39:05 AM PST by kanawa (Live right, Die right)
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To: WOSG
Picture an alternate universe, where the events of 9-11 and Iraq are exactly as they are now. The President of the United States is doing the exact same things as in our universe. The catch is, the President doing the exact same thing as President Bush happens to be President Gore.

Now, does anyone seriously believe that all of these Hollywood schmucks would be heaping anything but praise on President Gore?

71 posted on 02/15/2003 8:40:43 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: kstewskis; Pippin; Neets; MozartLover
PING...
72 posted on 02/15/2003 8:41:22 AM PST by Northern Yankee (We... Band of Brothers!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
great speech, but alas he was just a cutout 'bad guy' who went down, and the audience was supposed to feel good about that.
hollywood always gets the last word in their own creations.
73 posted on 02/15/2003 8:41:48 AM PST by WOSG
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To: Mr.Clark
I'm glad freepers are keeping an eye on Clooney. He might not be much, but he's one of the best that liberals have, along with Sharpton. We need opposition research. Thank God you and I can say, "I'm outta here," knowing others are doing the grunt work on this Clooney clown. God bless them for their work. FReegards....
74 posted on 02/15/2003 8:41:48 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (LIBERTY or DEATH!)
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To: Northern Yankee
Notice that the guy calling President Bush a coward is the one mouthing off to a British "journalist."
75 posted on 02/15/2003 8:42:33 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: aculeus
Rosemary would never claim this excrement of a rat as a relative now, even if he had enough brain power to drive her car as a chauffeur.
76 posted on 02/15/2003 8:43:19 AM PST by hgro
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Given his on-screen "talents" I have to wonder if this guy would have gotten anywhere without the last name "Clooney."
77 posted on 02/15/2003 8:44:18 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Mr.Clark
Whenever and wherever we see these America hating scum, we should walk up and spit on them. Or at least curse them out as loving Saddam, hating the miliary etc, and ruin their appearances.

Freeping these a-holes as targets of opportunity can go a long way to ruining their careers.

And they deserve it.

78 posted on 02/15/2003 8:44:34 AM PST by Travis McGee (--------------------------- WAR SOLVED HITLER! -------------------------)
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To: aculeus
Clooney The Clown has no idea how stupid he really is.
79 posted on 02/15/2003 8:45:09 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: aculeus
>>I get mad at someone, then I find out more about why they did what they did to make me mad, and the anger disperses.

Izzat so, Georgie? Seems to me your "anger" toward anyone CONSERVATIVE or whose name is BUSH just seems to grow, and grow, and grow, ya HYPOCRITE!!!!!

80 posted on 02/15/2003 8:45:24 AM PST by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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