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Osprey's flight tests `going well,' Pentagon official says
The Dallas Morning News via Tallahassee.Com ^ | 7 February 2002 | Richard Whittle

Posted on 02/09/2003 8:13:25 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER

Osprey's flight tests `going well,' Pentagon official says

BY RICHARD WHITTLE
The Dallas Morning News

WASHINGTON - (KRT) - The V-22 Osprey's flight tests are "going well," Defense Undersecretary Pete Aldridge said Friday, adding that he will visit the program's Maryland office next week to assess its progress in detail.

"I'm always skeptical until I'm proven otherwise," said the Pentagon procurement chief, who previously had expressed doubts that the tilt-rotor troop transport would be suitable for combat missions.

But without declaring any change of heart, Aldridge allowed that the flight test program for the controversial Marine Corps aircraft "is laid out very well" and that he had "not heard any real problems yet."

Pentagon budgets in future years would increase funding for V-22 procurement "under the assumption that the flight test program is successful," he added.

The fiscal 2004 budget President Bush submitted to Congress this week requested $1.64 billion for 11 Ospreys.

A decision on whether to stick with that plan or cut funding probably will be made this summer or next fall, he said.

"If we start seeing some problems occur, we may have to readdress where we go," he added.

Built by Bell Helicopter Textron Inc. of Fort Worth in partnership with Boeing Co., the V-22 uses two huge wingtip rotors to take off like a helicopter, then tilts them forward to fly like an airplane. That gives it greater speed and range than a normal helicopter.

The Marines are convinced the Osprey's unusual capability will revolutionize the way they fight. But after two crashes in 2000 that left 23 Marines dead, critics urged the Pentagon to cancel the Osprey.

The Pentagon instead ordered a redesign of the aircraft and a new, rigorous round of flight tests that began last May.

Months ago, Aldridge - an aerospace engineer by training - said he was skeptical of the V-22's ability to land aboard ships because of its parallel rotors.

He and other critics also have argued that the wingtip rotors could make the aircraft unacceptably vulnerable to rotor stalls known as "vortex ring state" when descending rapidly.

On Friday, Aldridge noted that the program began shipboard flight and landing tests last month and has been doing "high rate of descent" tests with apparent success.

"They are not skimping on doing hard tests early," Aldridge granted. "They're right in that high rate of descent, where the vortex ring state problems exist. They're doing shipboard compatibility testing right now."

Aldridge said he would travel to Patuxent River Naval Air Station next week to "assess where they are, how well they have done, what's the plan for the future, what's the reliability look like in the airplane so far, because they've done a lot of work on that.

"So my trip next week should give me a little bit better indication of how they are progressing. I haven't heard any real problems yet, but we'll see after my trip."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: miltech; osprey; usmc; v22osprey
It's gratifying watching an "expert" like Aldridge eat his words and it will be a great day indeed when he has to eat the whole crow. However, once again there's no mention in this report of the pilot error in the Marana crash or the pilot error that was a contributing factor in the New River crash.
1 posted on 02/09/2003 8:13:25 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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2 posted on 02/09/2003 8:36:44 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER

The MV22 gives a whole new meaning to the term "dust off"
3 posted on 02/09/2003 8:36:56 AM PST by Clive
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4 posted on 02/09/2003 8:44:33 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: *miltech
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5 posted on 02/09/2003 8:50:14 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
I'm sorry. I am a fixed wing goober. The thought of those rotors taking the vertical axis during a shipboard landing remind me of what a rocket powered cusinart could do the the flight deck and any bystanding ground support for a quater mile radius.

The pilot error concern is no less valid than a design or mechanical one. Platforms requiring skills well beyond the "tricky to handle" precautions are a real flaw. If the bird is completely unforgiving if inputs are not perfect, that should be a factor in deciding it's future. We all have a tendancy to perform with great variability as human beings. Engineering needs to accomodate that. If I am flying it, I need lot's of accomodation!

6 posted on 02/09/2003 8:51:16 AM PST by blackdog (People are not sheep. Sheep are superior by far.)
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Good. The V-22 has had its share of problems and stupid things happen (one of them crashed on takeoff because a flight control component was hooked up backwards, which caused the flight controls to respond opposite of what they should to control inputs). It looks like Boeing has done a good job of stepping up to those problems and the program is getting back on track.

I look at the last crash of the V-22 in the same light as the Apollo 1 fire. The Apollo space program was having a lot of problems that weren't being adequately addressed. After the Apollo 1 fire, it would have been real easy to just scrap the whole program outright and move on to something else. But the fire motivated everybody to step up and do what is right, and they wound up taking it to the moon, literally.

7 posted on 02/09/2003 8:55:14 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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The Osprey does however raise my "How Friggin Cool" meter! Amazing machine. I love those C130 touch-n-go drops, where they scrape the ground at 100KTS, eject about 20 tons of machinery out the back on sleds, and yank her back into the air over a 1500' distance.
8 posted on 02/09/2003 8:58:53 AM PST by blackdog (People are not sheep. Sheep are superior by far.)
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However, once again there's no mention in this report of the pilot error in the Marana crash or the pilot error that was a contributing factor in the New River crash.

It seems to me that pilot error is almost another word for inadequate software. In principle, these machines could be all but crash-proof, assuming there are no mechanical problems.

9 posted on 02/09/2003 9:10:58 AM PST by Physicist
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To: Physicist
That was a thought of mine too. Glad to see you posted it.
10 posted on 02/09/2003 9:26:40 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
OK, I see pictures of the aircraft being used for airborne and air assault missions. But why is it better in terms of efficiency and survivability than the aircraft we have been successfully using for this purpose for decades?
11 posted on 02/09/2003 10:05:53 AM PST by American Soldier
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I look at the last crash of the V-22 in the same light as the Apollo 1 fire.

Too bad none of the previous crashes were.

12 posted on 02/09/2003 10:32:18 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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I will just say this, I work with many marines, all of whom have said they would take a court marshel before stepping into the "flying deathtrap" as they like to call it. They also point out that when Helicopters and planes go down that people sometimes survive. There have been no survivors from Osprey crashes.
13 posted on 02/09/2003 10:35:54 AM PST by Blue Scourge (Real American...)
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Too bad none of the previous crashes were.

Were what? Your sentence is incomplete and makes no sense.

14 posted on 02/09/2003 10:39:25 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
I don't know flight, piloting, etc. So I'm asking you.

In your opinion, can this thing be made to work as desired?

15 posted on 02/09/2003 10:50:07 AM PST by LibKill (Mostly harmless)
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To: American Soldier
Lower RCS, lower IR signature, lower acoustic signature, speed, range, greater ballistic integrity.
16 posted on 02/11/2003 7:27:42 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Blue Scourge
There have been no survivors from Osprey crashes.

Incorrect.

17 posted on 02/11/2003 7:29:15 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: LibKill
Yes.
18 posted on 02/11/2003 7:30:44 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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