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1 posted on 02/09/2003 7:35:21 AM PST by nwrep
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If you thought the personal and professional attacks on Clarence Thomas were bad, just wait...

I'm happy and hopeful, but I'm sure that the left will break their collective necks to try to Bork her...

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2 posted on 02/09/2003 7:38:18 AM PST by mhking ("The home team Iraqis have won the toss and elected to receive...")
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4 posted on 02/09/2003 7:44:29 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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5 posted on 02/09/2003 7:45:10 AM PST by Dajjal
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Brown is a conservative African-American who's ruled against affirmative action and abortion rights.

I'll admit to prejudice: I have trouble trusting anyone from California. Is this woman for real?

6 posted on 02/09/2003 7:45:12 AM PST by madprof98
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Does she know the definition of the word, "Infringed"?
16 posted on 02/09/2003 7:57:22 AM PST by Shooter 2.5
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All this crap about race and nothing about her views!

Can't I just here how she is qualified as a man/woman who may potentially serve on the SCOTUS?!?

Can't we get beyond race and consider each person as a man/woman and not part of a racial group?

This crap is making me sick.

/RANT


25 posted on 02/09/2003 8:27:25 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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From California Abortion Rights Action League Newsletter- Summer 1997:

Associate Justice Janice Rogers Brown, who is new to the Court since the 1996 decision, seemed clearly hostile to pro-choice arguments, challenging the trial court's authority to second-guess the Legislature's findings about teens and abortion.

41 posted on 02/09/2003 8:41:33 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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Thank God its Janice Brown & not Lee Pee (Out of Town ) Brown, failed Mayor of Houston & everything else he has touched!
47 posted on 02/09/2003 8:51:53 AM PST by Ditter
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If Stevens were to leave and Brown was chosen to replace him you would see a bloody battle.

Too bad the CA court would become a little bit more liberal.
48 posted on 02/09/2003 8:56:09 AM PST by Mike Darancette
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I resent Newsweak's raciest title to the article.
50 posted on 02/09/2003 9:01:17 AM PST by Mike Darancette
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Good - In sharp dissent, Justice Janice Rogers Brown said such an initiative by a local government "exceeds its regulatory authority."

The gun industry argued to the seven justices that local governments are powerless to regulate the industry because the Legislature has authorized gun shows on public property. The industry said the local laws were pre-empted by state rules.

Bad - But none of the state's seven high court justices agreed. "For good or ill," wrote Justice Janice Rogers Brown for the court, "the Legislature stood up and was counted on this issue, one of the most contentious in modern society."

In her opinion for the court majority, Brown strongly rejected any suggestion that the state Constitution protects the rights of Californians to own weapons.

"No mention is made [in the state Constitution] of a right to bear arms," Brown wrote.

The court majority also rejected the challenge that the law was invalid because it failed to ban all similar weapons.

"Doubtless, 10 years after Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act became law in California, many semiautomatic weapons potentially classifiable as assault weapons remain on the market here," Brown wrote.

"That may or may not be regrettable, depending upon one's view of this highly charged public policy question," Brown added, "but it does not amount to a constitutionally fatal flaw."

The court defended the law's provision that allows the attorney general to ask Superior Courts to add new weapons to the outlawed list. The role of courts in this is "a very narrow, essentially adjudicatory one," Brown said.

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Now what I need to know is this
1. Is there a right to keep and bear arms in California's state constitution - if the answer is yes, then I'll be pushing for her defeat.
2. Did the gunmakers try and argue that the 2nd amendment applies to the states as well. If it is not argued, she can't rule that it is or isn't. If they argued that it did, then I'll be pushing for her defeat.

If the answer to both is no, I'm still undecided, and need to do more research on it. My support or opposition to Justice Brown rests on that issue.

54 posted on 02/09/2003 9:14:29 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Yippee Kai Aye......")
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I seriously doubt she would appointed Chief Justice right off the bat. I believe that honor will go to O'Connor.
94 posted on 02/09/2003 10:49:19 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe
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I hope Bush is able to nominate Judge Bork while he's in office. I'd love to see some of these wacko left cases come before a Supreme Court with Bork on board.
102 posted on 02/09/2003 11:12:26 AM PST by gitmo ("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
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She sounds like a good replacement for O'Connor (a woman for a woman, and a black woman, too). For those concerned that she isn't conservative enough, remember that Supreme Court Justices influence each other and being in the company of Scalia and Thomas could help fix any rough edges she has. Sounds good to me.

As for Chief Justice, I'd go for Thomas and/or Scalia. Try to put both of them in first. If the left borks them, so be it. Then nominate another strong conservative. The American people and the senators can only put up with so much borking before it gets old and people stop caring. Wear them down. And I'd love to see Thomas get a second shot and defending himself and I'd love to see Scalia defend himself to the intellectual midgets (uh, intellectual little people, in PC speak) on the left.

116 posted on 02/09/2003 11:59:54 AM PST by Question_Assumptions (``)
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From an article posted by nwrep: 'In her opinion for the court majority, Brown strongly rejected any suggestion that the state Constitution protects the rights of Californians to own weapons.
"No mention is made [in the state Constitution] of a right to bear arms," Brown wrote.'

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Written constitutions were never intended to be enumerations of inalienable rights. The US Constitution even says that explicitly.

This decision indicates that Brown would likely adopt the ridiculous militia tests that have been invented to disarm the people.

This woman would obviously uphold the power of Kalifornia to disarm me. She is totally unfit to be a Supreme Court justice.

The implication of her decision is that freedom of speech could be outlawed in Wyoming by a state constitution amendment. What dangerous nonsense.

118 posted on 02/09/2003 12:14:51 PM PST by William Tell
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I don't know anything about Brown. I do know that if MSNBC calls her a "conservative" that means she is a moderate liberal. If she were a genuine conservative than MSNBC would call her a "right wing fanatic."
126 posted on 02/09/2003 1:12:39 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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There once was a saying that "Only two groups of people are really free in this country - black women and white men" (meaning they can say whatever they want). A good test of that could be forthcoming!
128 posted on 02/09/2003 1:24:34 PM PST by 185JHP ( "Life is precious, life is sweet...")
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I just scanned the first few posts, so if this has been answered, please point me to the relevent post:

I'm a bit different from most here regarding potential judges; their opinions regarding abortion, for instance, mean as less than nothing to me.

What I would REALLY like to know about Judge Brown is, how does she feel about such REAL issues as the Second Ammendment, the War On Drugs, private property, free speech, and OTHER direct Constitutional issues.

Would she vote to overturn restrictive gun laws? How about seizures of property by environmental agencies? does she support the Freedom of Speech, Press, Religion, and the Rights of Assembly and Grievance? What about Privacy?

Sorry to be blunt, but by zeroing on peripheral issues such as abortion to the exclusion of all others can be to risk a dangerous appointee. I WILL NOT trade all my OTHER rights so half the population should LOSE one of theirs.

129 posted on 02/09/2003 1:28:00 PM PST by Long Cut (Daddy-To-Be)
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How conservative is she?
131 posted on 02/09/2003 1:32:56 PM PST by A2J (What in the hell is Rice-A-Roni?)
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Two of the same article on the bang list.
136 posted on 02/09/2003 1:50:15 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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