German Intelligence Had Knowledge of Iraq's Biological and Chemical Weapons Last Fall

Yahoo Germany / dpa ^ | 8 February, 2003 | dpa

[longjack]

Saturday, 8 February 2003, 08:58

BND has detailed knowledge over weapons in Iraq according to "Focus"

Munich (dpa) The Bundesnachrichtendienst (or, CIA / lj) allegedly has detailed knowledge of the existence of biological and chemical weapons in Iraq reports "Focus". The magazine has a BND analysis available. The dossier states: "Iraq has in all probability B and C weapons." The dossier dates from late fall of last year.

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Translated by longjack

[conservativecorner]

Thanks so much for the information. It's 1939 all over again with their lies and deceit.

[Michael81Dus]

No, German government selled weapons (tanks) to the Saudis, too. They were helpful in 1991, so the alliance considered them as friendly .. that and the oil may be the reasons.

[evad]

Completely wrong. Show any evidences instead of lousy speculations.

Michael..I understand your biases and as I stated in a previous post, I have always considered the Germans to be a proud and industrious people. That's why it's so perplexing to me that they are acting as they are.

Now the French..that's another deal altogether. They have always been ...well, you can fill in the blanks.

If I am wrong, and I'm wrong a lot, maybe you could help me out with your wisdom on the subject:

1..Why is the German government acting as it does?

2..Since it's a commonly held belief that German and French fingerprints will be all over the WMD's that are eventually found, what can you direct me to that would disprove that belief...other than your emphatic denial.

[Michael81Dus]

1. The German government is in trouble, and was in trouble last year. It was tradition to make no election campaigns with foreign policy, nearly all parties agreed on the governments foreign policy. But last year, Schröder wanted to become reelected - he had luck and Iraq was a interesting topic, the floodings too. He successfully diverted from his failed economy policy and narrowly won the election. Now, he has broken many promises during the last four years, so he won´t and can´t break that one "Germany will not be engaged in a war against Iraq".
In addition, his party and the Greens have many peace activists, so many Germans oppose a war - he´s riding on the wave of the public opinio, while the opposition declared solidarity with America and wishs to support the States. Nevertheless, it doesn´t help Schröder, his approval rate is on the lowest point ever - if he´d break that last promise, his coalition (only 4 members majority in parliament) would break. So he has no alternative if he wants to stay in office. Hope you´ll see why Germany opposes the war. I cannot speak for France.

2. Well, not only German or French fingerprints are found, British and US firms delivered to Saddam as well as I could read here on FR. You also could read that our attorneys charged several businessmen for selling material to Saddam Hussein - we´re determined to get them in prison for their crimes.

Sorry, my last post to you was a bit too aggressive.

[evad]

Sorry, my last post to you was a bit too aggressive.

hehe..
not at all. I actually enjoyed it.
you do seem to have an understanding of the situation.
peace

[longjack]

British and US firms delivered to Saddam as well

Similiar to the US delivering weapons to Joe Stalin in 1944. Did they deliver them to Joe Stalin in 1954?

Did the US deliver weapons to Hussein in 1989?. Did the US deliver weapons to him in 1999?

Did Germany deliver weapons to Hussein in 1989? . Did Germany deliver weapons to him in 1999?

The 1999 deliveries / non-deliveries is the pertinent question AFIAC.

longjack

[americanbychoice]

Michael, You know that the BND has a lot ofinfo.They also gave the info to the comittee in Berlin. Even the CDU prtson asked the Chancellor to come clean stating that he can't devulge info himself because of secrecy. Numerous attempts have been made to have Schroeder come clean and let at least his people know what to expect.
As for weapons supply from Germany into Iraq, we'll see after it is over.

[Michael81Dus]

Stop! You say "US" and "Germany" - but what did you think of:
- the government?
- the people?
- one/two firms or what?

[elhombrelibre]

Michael, looks like Schroeder and Chirac are willing to wreck NATO, the UN, and US relations for Saddam. Do Germans really think Saddam is worth it? How will they feel when the US and its allies liberate the Iraqis and they thank us? That's going to be when we see the folly of the Schroeder and Chirac policies.

[Michael81Dus]

Dear friends and people of the United States of America!

Your President (supported by your government and Congress) is leading you in a war against the Republic of Iraq. It seems that this decision is already made and nobody can stop that war now - except your President or Saddam Hussein. Since noone expects Hussein to disarm his military or your President to paddle back, the world will go through that war.

Many nations, peoples and government all over the world don´t want that war - not only the Iraqi leadership and its friends. And there are many reasons why people don´t support your war. Some of them are reasonable, some may be accepted and some may not.

I call you to make differences why people don´t want that war. Some people hate your politics of the past or present, some are envious, some are pacifists and dislike all kinds of military or war in general, some don´t believe that Iraq has an evil leadership, some want a UN resolution before starting the strikes, etc.

Your President is doing the right - he keeps up the pressure on Iraq until Saddam Hussein has no WMD anymore. That means that he will go to the very end: ordering your troops to combat against Iraq.

Some of your troops may die while they´re fighting for the freedom, independance and security not only of the United States of America, but of the entire civilized world. That is the greatest contribution to mankind one can do - giving his/her life for the freedom of others. And your troops deserve respect for being ready to lose life. We all hope that this future war will not lead to many casualties, but that we all know that we´re going to see dead Iraqis as well as US soldiers coming home in flag-covered coffins.

Let me tell you, that - no matter your ALLIED GOVERNMENTS behave before that war - we all mourn for your deads, respecting their task.

Alliances will not break over differences on the war against Iraq. Saddam Hussein is not worth to end friendship with other nations! The United States are not only fighting a war against Iraq, but also against terrorism - and they´re doing that with many nations. Please keep in mind that governments who do not support the way you´re handling the Iraqi conflict are supporting you in the war against terrorism.

Finally, I hope that these strikes will end soon so that the world will be a safier place.

God bless you and the allied troops being ready to complete the mission of 1991!

Michael


That´s what I posted two days ago. No Germans don´t think that Saddam is worth to abolish UN and NATO for.

CU,

Michael

[longjack]

US = Whoever made the weapons / materials and whoever regulates the export procedures. AFAIK a company that builds something, say a tank, has a hard time getting it over to Iraq without Uncle Sam finding out about it.

I guess the answer would have to be government, weapons firms and the people who work for them

longjack

[Bill Davis FR]

and as war gears up saddam authorizes his generals to use wmd...

[Michael81Dus]

As for the government I´m sure that it remained uninformed. It is illegal. Even if the intelligences got these news, they had to interfere and tell the next attorney what´s going on. So, our government had no idea what some firms send to Saddam, speaking of deliveries after 1991.