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N.C. Congressman Says Internment of Japanese-Americans During World War II Was Appropriate
AP ^ | 2/5/03 | The Associated Press

Posted on 02/05/2003 4:16:00 PM PST by Jean S

HIGH POINT, N.C. (AP) - A congressman who heads a homeland security subcommittee said on a radio call-in program that he agreed with the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II.

A fellow congressman who was interned as a child criticized Coble for his comment on Wednesday, as did advocacy groups.

Rep. Howard Coble, R-N.C., made the remark Tuesday on WKZL-FM when a caller suggested Arabs in the United States should be confined.

Coble, chairman of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security, said that he didn't agree with the caller but did agree with President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who established the internment camps.

"We were at war. They (Japanese-Americans) were an endangered species," Coble said. "For many of these Japanese-Americans, it wasn't safe for them to be on the street."

Like most Arab-Americans today, Coble said, most Japanese-Americans during World War II were not America's enemies.

Still, Coble said, Roosevelt had to consider the nation's security.

"Some probably were intent on doing harm to us," he said, "just as some of these Arab-Americans are probably intent on doing harm to us."

U.S. Rep. Mike Honda, D-Calif., a Japanese-American who spent his early childhood with his family in an internment camp during World War II, said he spoke with Coble on Wednesday to learn more about his views.

"I'm disappointed that he really doesn't understand the impact of what he said," Honda said. "With his leadership position in Congress, that kind of lack of understanding can lead people down the wrong path."

The Japanese American Citizens League called Coble on Wednesday and asked him to issue an apology, while the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee demanded that Coble explain his remarks.

It is "a sad day in our country's tradition when an elected official ... openly agrees with an unconstitutional and racist policy long believed to be one of the darkest moments of America's history," the group said in a statement.

AP-ES-02-05-03 1842EST


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: homelandsecurity; howardcoble; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; unhelpful
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To: JeanS
I agree with Coble on the internment of people of Japanese ancestry during world war II, and at present with those with religious and/or blood ties to terrorists. It is just possible that this precaution was the difference betwen victory and defeat-this current war on terrorism and how we deal with possible internal allies of terrorists, may very well to our ever lasting sorrow, finally answer that question.

NO one should be treated or housed as shabilly as were the internees during WWII, and I doubt that any would be in todays world. Everything they possess should be returned at the end of these troubled times.

A fact that is never mentioned in the condemnation of America for the discomfort of the internees, is the fact that most Americans of every persuasion sacrificed and inconveinenced and were separated from family members-many for ever.

War is hell, but if the USA ever loses a war, the whole d*mn world will be hell.
81 posted on 02/05/2003 6:24:15 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (truth is the life blood of productive discourse)
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To: aristeides
My friend,

I haven't read the book you reference. However, my book on the subject was written after General deWitt's recommendations to President Roosevelt had been declassified. In those documents, deWitt made the incredible argument that 1) there were no known instances of Japanese-American sabotage, and 2) that lack of any sabotage was proof that they were "well organized" and therefore "dangerous."

It was on the basis of deWitt's report, with the support of Governor Earl Warren of California, that President Roosevelt issued his Executive Order. (I think that Warren became a screaming liberal as Chief Justice in part as expiation for supporting both the internment of the Japanese-Americans, and also a prior California law that made it illegal for the Nissei to own farm land in California.)

It doesn't matter to me what anyone wrote about this situation without access to the WW II internal documents. I had those documents, and got some of them declassified for my book. I stand by my historical and constitutional conclusions on this subject.

Congressman Billybob

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82 posted on 02/05/2003 6:25:09 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: thedugal
NO...the INTERNED GOT THEIR FREEDOM BACK!
83 posted on 02/05/2003 6:25:39 PM PST by goodnesswins (Thank the Military for your freedom and security....and thank a Rich person for jobs.)
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To: k2blader
k2....

There are many newspaper accounts available on the net via google. Plus there are untold historical accounts.

In a nutshell, after the Jap plane landed, three Japanese-Americans aided and abetted him in trying to take over the little island. Finally, a Hawaiian native cut the throat of the Jap pilot before the military arrived to end the affair. One Japanese-American went to prison long term, I forget what the other two received.

It was a very sordid affair and was a basis for the anti-Japanese feeling in the government. The FBI was involved and made an estimation that of the Japanese-Americans on the mainland, there were at least 5000 that would be traitors. At the time and under the circumstances, this was deemed unacceptable.

The newspaper accounts are best because they have not been sanitized, historical accounts have been mostly made PC.

It is a very interesting story and well worth researching, it gives one a different approach to the internment.

84 posted on 02/05/2003 6:25:59 PM PST by cynicom
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To: John H K
>>they're remarkably lazy and unmotivated.

That's the one thing we've got going for us in the West's confrontation with Islam.

85 posted on 02/05/2003 6:27:02 PM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: Travis McGee
ONE WMD attack on the US, and we turn the MidEast into a glass parking lot. All of it? From Morocco to Pakistan, or where? If, say, a bio attack is made next year which kills 20,000 Americans, and no one claims credit, how will you pick your retaliatory target?


Seriously consider the political climate.

Our government will have a good idea who did it. And normally wouldn't want to tell us.

You'll have 30% of the populace wanting revenge, some middle amount not knowing... and a leftist peacenik reaction like the US has NEVER seen.

We'll be on the brink of civil war.

IF they hit us with biologics or nukes... screw it. All bets are off. Declare war on Islam. They've already declared it on us.

Consider the option... We half-ass respond, and they'll only do it again. If they kill 20,000 the first time, and we bomb Iran for it... they'll kill 100,000 the next time and use another country.

Islam is a war cult.

You're right, we're pre-WW III. Why spend all the effort and blood that will be spilled - mostly on the side of our noncombatants?

I'm quickly becoming a proponent of Pax Americana.

Get the Russians on board, and split the whole ball of wax.

86 posted on 02/05/2003 6:29:03 PM PST by DAnconia55
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To: Arpege92
I don't know how the Japanese held in these camps were treated but I do know how American prisoners held by Japan was a dark moment in the history of Japan!

What the hell does that have to do with anything. The German's did the most unspeakable things to Jews, does that give Jewish Americans the right to confine German Americans? Freedom doesn't mean you can go to the grocery store when you want to buy some eggs. Stupid fat lazy American image is based on reality. Everyone here talks big crap about "Freedom", aka "Free Republic", but when freedom is truly tested, like in a time of war, we failed. And you here who make excuses and trivialize that failure prove that most of what we believe is a crock of dung. Oh, well, as long as it doesn't happen to me... right.

87 posted on 02/05/2003 6:30:14 PM PST by thedugal
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To: meia
I'm curious. Do you mean you will actually hunt down and kill people just because they are Muslim if we get hit by a weapon of mass destruction? I would like to know since I have a couple of Muslim families on my street and my children play with their children.

You have no concept of the reaction that will happen if a nuke or a smallpox attacks goes off in the US... do you?

You think it will be neat and clean, like the Shuttle coverage?

We lose a city, there'll be 50,000,000 people howling for blood.

88 posted on 02/05/2003 6:31:14 PM PST by DAnconia55
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To: John H K
"If thee are 400,000 Islamist killers in this country they're remarkably lazy and unmotivated".

And nineteen of these Islamist killers murdered 3,000 innocent American civilians on 9/11/01 and destroyed the WTC towers. Did you forget?
89 posted on 02/05/2003 6:31:21 PM PST by maxwellp
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To: aristeides
You are right that the US Supreme Court never overruled its own 1944 decision in Korematsu v. US. They were given two chances to overrule that horrendous decision, and ducked both of them.

However, a US District Court ruled, at Fred Korematsu's request in 1990 (give or take a year) that his conviction was illegal because its basis was unconstitutional. (That happened after General deWitt's internal documents were declassified.) The Circuit Court agreed.

The government then took that case to the US Supreme Court. In an instance which I think is unique in the entire history of the USSC, it refused the case and simply left standing a lower court decision which said it had acted unconstitutionally.

Can you think of any other instance when a lower court ruled that the Supreme Court had acted unconstitutionally, and the USSC did not take and review the case?

Billybob

90 posted on 02/05/2003 6:31:22 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: drlevy88
I have to disagree with that bogus claim. People with recognizable German names were under suspicion and abuse as well-they would probably have been safer in internment camps as well, and so may have been America.
91 posted on 02/05/2003 6:33:10 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (truth is the life blood of productive discourse)
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To: JeanS
Didn't we just deal with Trent Lott?

Just damn.

92 posted on 02/05/2003 6:34:28 PM PST by mhking (Mr. Worf, lock phasers AND quantum torpedoes on target and stand by for my signal...)
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To: aristeides
The Western Command, by General deWitt, ordered the General in charge on Hawaii to intern the Japanese-Americans there. That General did not refuse a direct order. However, for four years he found factual reasons why he could not carry out that order.

And the damage from the Pearl Harbor attack could not have been repaired promptly, as it was, without the efforts of the Japanese-Americans who were left free by the on-the-scene intelligence of the General on Hawaii.

Billybob

93 posted on 02/05/2003 6:34:37 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: aristeides
I wrote too quickly, and stand corrected. Under the earlier law, some of the Nissei were compensated at about 10 cents on the dollar for their property losses, but nothing for the imprisonment without charges. The latter came later, and applied as I said before only to the actual internees who had survived until 1992, as I recall.

Billybob

94 posted on 02/05/2003 6:37:35 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: meia
"Also lost their lives fighting for our country."

So did the cream of the crop from those of every other persuasion.

War is hell-peace is swell. You can't always have one without the other.
95 posted on 02/05/2003 6:38:05 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (truth is the life blood of productive discourse)
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To: goodnesswins
NO...the INTERNED GOT THEIR FREEDOM BACK!

That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. It's like excusing rape because the victim wasn't murdered. Well, at least they weren't tortured. Well, at least, we didn't dismember them and perform hideous experiments. Well at least they weren't gassed. I suppose you would have the same attidue if I borrowed your daughter for a few days. Hey, you'll get her back...

96 posted on 02/05/2003 6:41:46 PM PST by thedugal
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To: Travis McGee
I have always thought internment was the correct policy.

I also believe your footnote 2 is correct, given the den of vipers and socialists at the UN.

"Chicago Method" all the way with me, brother.

97 posted on 02/05/2003 6:42:49 PM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: CasearianDaoist
You are wrong on the facts. The hard-core Japanese-Americans, who refused to pledge allegiance to the United States, were about 10% of the group. This "No-no" group, for their answers to two questions, were incarcerated in just one of the ten camps, at Thule Lake. They were the last to be released, after the war was over. All the other camps were closed just before the end of the year.

Billybob

P.S. Don't give me any of that cr*p about this being a fiction. If they'd done the same to German-Americans, I would have died in one of those camps. My book is not just words; it includes ample photographs, taken by the late, great Ansel Adams.

98 posted on 02/05/2003 6:43:19 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: southland
The Americans captured at Bataan were starved and allowed to die without medical attention.

And that was the merciful stuff.

99 posted on 02/05/2003 6:44:53 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Eleven. Exactly. One louder.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
"Suspicious" German-Americans and Italian-Americans were put under surveilance. But that is no wise the same as jailing everyone on the West Coast (except Hawaii itself) if they had at least one Japanese grandparent. Friends of my grandmother (who was brought over from Germany at age 2) were watched in Baltimore.

But that was all. Unless they got caught actually DOING anything.

Billybob

100 posted on 02/05/2003 6:51:51 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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