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Observation on TPS damage on Orbiter
NASA photos | 2-3-03 | BoneMccoy

Posted on 02/04/2003 1:34:19 AM PST by bonesmccoy

In recent days the popular media has been focusing their attention on an impact event during the launch of STS-107. The impact of External Tank insulation and/or ice with the Orbiter during ascent was initially judged by NASA to be unlikely to cause loss of the vehicle. Obviously, loss of the integrity of the orbiter Thermal Protection System occured in some manner. When Freepers posted the reports of these impacts on the site, I initially discounted the hypothesis. Orbiters had sustained multiple impacts in the past. However, the size of the plume in the last photo gives me pause.

I'd like to offer to FR a few observations on the photos.

1. In this image an object approximately 2-3 feet appears to be between the orbiter and the ET.

2. In this image the object appears to have rotated relative to both the camera and the orbiter. The change in image luminosity could also be due to a change in reflected light from the object. Nevertheless, it suggests that the object is tumbling and nearing the orbiter's leading edge.

It occurs to me that one may be able to estimate the size of the object and make an educated guess regarding the possible mass of the object. Using the data in the video, one can calculate the relative velocity of the object to the orbiter wing. Creating a test scenario is then possible. One can manufacture a test article and fire ET insulation at the right velocity to evaluate impact damage on the test article.

OV-101's port wing could be used as a test stand with RCC and tile attached to mimic the OV-102 design.

The color of the object seems inconsistent with ET insulation. One can judge the ET color by looking at the ET in the still frame. The color of the object seems more consistent with ice or ice covered ET insulation. Even when accounting for variant color hue/saturation in the video, the object clearly has a different color characteristic from ET insulation. If it is ice laden insulation, the mass of the object would be significantly different from ET insulation alone. Since the velocity of the object is constant in a comparison equation, estimating the mass of the object becomes paramount to understanding the kinetic energy involved in the impact with the TPS.

3. In this image the debris impact creates a plume. My observation is that if the plume was composed primarily of ET insulation, the plume should have the color characteristics of ET insulation. This plume has a white color.

Unfortunately, ET insulation is orange/brown in color.

In addition, if the relative density of the ET insulation is known, one can quantify the colorimetric properties of the plume to disintegrating ET insulation upon impact.

Using the test article experiment model, engineers should fire at the same velocity an estimated mass of ET insulation (similar to the object seen in the still frame) at the test article. The plume should be measured colorimetrically. By comparing this experimental plume to the photographic evidence from the launch, one may be able to quantify the amount of ET insulation in the photograph above.

4. In this photo, the plume spreads from the aft of the orbiter's port wing. This plume does not appear to be the color of ET insulation. It appears to be white.

This white color could be the color of ice particles at high altitude.

On the other hand, the composition of TPS tiles under the orbiter wings is primarily a low-density silica.

In the photo above, you can see a cross section of orbiter TPS tile. The black color of the tile is merely a coating. The interior of the tile is a white, low-density, silica ceramic.


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To: freepersup
Seriously- in 3-5 days from now I have a hunch that NASA is going to be orchestrating either more search parties out west or issuing a directive to the western states on what to do with found debris.

They did that 2 days ago asking the Forest Service to look in the counties east of Hiway 99 to the Nv line. Only problem is the several feet of snow still closing FS roads in that area. I like the idea of Ultra-lite over the Nv desert.

I find it interesting that the flight path crosses near Sacramento but no reports of viewers in that area. Maybe it was foggy that morning.

1,841 posted on 02/14/2003 4:01:26 PM PST by tubebender (?)
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To: Budge
It's real!
1,842 posted on 02/14/2003 4:03:13 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: spunkets

1,843 posted on 02/14/2003 4:12:17 PM PST by XBob
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To: XBob; Budge
Calling Blackie.

Yes? :)

1,844 posted on 02/14/2003 4:21:47 PM PST by blackie
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To: XBob
The drawing is skewed. It appears, as it would, to someone of to the right and underneath the plane. The width dimensions are nocked down by cos(27o), or ~11%. w/o that the wings would stick out of the AF image envelope. The wing tips have to remain in that envelope.

The image is from the light emitted by whatever is hot. The air around the orbiter is hot, as are the surfaces of the ship. That's why there's a bulge in the front, a bulge along the wing, and the backend shows the trails. The bulge along the wing isn't from something sticking out. It results from radiation from the hot surfaces heating the air piling up in front of the wing.

Their's even a couple of fat pixels that make it look like something is sticking way out. What that's from is a beam of radiation and hot gas, exiting from a hole in the RCC on the leading edge. It's heating up the air in front of it. IMO the RCC is all intact, but burning on the backside and there's a hole between 2RCCs in front of that diagonal tile that was hit by the debris.

1,845 posted on 02/14/2003 4:34:11 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets; All
Bedtime for ol' Bonzo here. See y'all in the morning.

Final note for the night: This has to be the best thread on FR, bar none!

1,846 posted on 02/14/2003 5:13:30 PM PST by Budge (God Bless FReepers!)
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To: Budge
night Budge
1,847 posted on 02/14/2003 5:16:43 PM PST by spunkets
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To: All
http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/news/channel_awst_story.jsp?id=news/02143reentry.xml

Aviation Week & Space Technology

Growing Evidence Points To Columbia Wing Breach By Craig Covault

"The shuttle orbiter Columbia's left wing was increasingly compromised by the penetration of 2000F reentry plasma starting over the Pacific Ocean 400 mi. off the coast of California, early in the hottest phase of its disastrous reentry Feb. 1, according to new data released by NASA.

This information provides more detail on sensor readings and when they occurred relative to the orbiter's ground track during the reentry, which ended in the loss of Columbia and her seven crewmembers over north central Texas.

One critical finding is that a breach in the left wing-along its leading edge, its landing gear door or seals-would had to have occurred for temperatures in the left wheel well to rise as they did in the final seconds before breakup began, according to data developed by a NASA thermal analysis team. The data were provided to the independent Columbia Accident Investigation Board headed by Adm. (ret.) Harold Gehman.

The analysis is extremely important because it indicates that missing thermal tiles alone on the wheel well door would not cause a temperature rise like that detected before breakup, officials in Houston said.

Sources outside the board noted that it it is increasingly likely the breach in the wing structure was not specifically in the wheel well area, although sensors in the wheel well and on the trailing edge of the wing provided some of the first signs of trouble.

They said the nexus of data from the accident continue to implicate the impact of insulation from the Lockheed Martin-built external tank on the left wing as part of a chain of events that could have resulted in a breach of wing structure.

The Boeing debris impact analysis highlighted both the leading edge of the wing and an area on the gear door as significant impact areas.

How the breach occurred and its location remain key questions for the board. But "additional analysis is underway looking at various scenarios in which a breach of some type, allowing plasma into the wheel well or elsewhere in the wing could occur," according to a statement from the board.

It specifically noted that there are no data to support a premature deployment of the left landing gear, contrary to widespread media reports late last week.

If debris had damaged the wing's leading edge reinforced carbon-carbon structures or deeply gouged tiles, allowing hot plasma to penetrate and erode the underlying aluminum, an increasingly larger path for the plasma to enter the wing could have been created (AW&ST Feb. 10, p. 22).

As part of its research, the thermal analysis team studied what thermal effects inside the wheel well would have been if all of the numerous tiles on the door's exterior had been removed.

The engineers found that radiant heating alone would not increase the temperatures in the wheel well like those recorded by sensors before breakup. The role that may have been played by any potential prelaunch deficiencies in shuttle thermal protection tiles and reinforced carbon-carbon leading edge materials and seals is also being examined intensively.

Michael Mott, Boeing vice president and general manager of NASA systems, told Aviation Week & Space Technology he knows of no unusual tile or leading-edge problems found during Columbia's modification period at Palmdale, Calif., in 1999, or after its only other flight before the accident-a 2002 mission to service the Hubble Space Telescope.

Both Mott and top NASA managers last week continued to assert faith in the debris analysis that involved more than 100 managers and engineers.

However, e-mails between Johnson Space Center and Langley Research Center engineers indicate there were ongoing concerns among some at Houston, even after Boeing analysis showed no safety implications from the tank debris impact.

Those concerns were significant enough to spark flat-tire landing simulation tests at the large landing simulation rig at Ames Research Center in Mountain View, Calif., after the Boeing analysis had been completed and the mission was still aloft. By chance, the Ames facility was temporarily configured for shuttle work anyway.

The Johnson/Langley exchanges began by phone and were completed by e-mails between David Lechner, a United Space Alliance member of the Mission Control's Maintenance, Mechanical and Crew Systems office and Robert Daugherty, a shuttle tire/landing gear expert at Langley near Hampton, Va. The discussions involved up to a dozen personnel, said Milt Heflin, who heads the Johnson Flight Director's office. Both Heflin and Columbia's lead reentry flight director, Leroy Cain, said last week that the discussions were typical "what-if-types" between good engineers.

The Langley engineer cited numerous worst-case scenarios. They were centered on the potential for Columbia's tires to explode or otherwise be flattened, along with landing gear damage-if the findings of the Boeing debris analysis were faulty and thermal damage occurred in the wheel well but the vehicle had survived. "I do not really think things are as bad as I am getting ready to make them out," Daugherty said in his e-mail exchange, before he cited serious tire consequence from any serious heat penetration of the wheel well.

In his reply, Lechner noted, "Like everyone we hope the debris impact analysis is correct and all of this discussion is mute [sic]."

NASA also continues to investigate the potential for damage the day after launch by any space debris that hit on the shuttle's left wing.

But as of Feb. 12, shuttle orbiter data are "unable to substantiate" that any such event occurred," Cain said. Gehman noted that members of his team have investigated a total of 50 accidents-among them the loss of Challenger at launch in 1986. "But almost every one of us has had an experience where following the hottest lead and working on the hottest theory turned out to be completely wrong. So we are very careful not to fall in love with any particular scenario."

Nevertheless, at the request of NASA, major tests and computer analysis are getting underway at Ames and Langley to reassess the Boeing analysis and potential for life-threatening damage from the external tank debris striking the left wing. NASA has asked Langley for support with both computational and wind tunnel debris related analysis.

The new data timeline shows Columbia was only about 90 sec. into the hottest phases of the reentry at Mach 23.5, and 236,791 ft. over the Pacific when a left main line landing gear brake line temperature began to rise, the first sign of trouble. This was at 7:52:17 a.m. CST, heading toward a planned Kennedy landing at 8:16 a.m. CST. Temperature increases and data dropouts related to lines compromised by temperature increases multiplied until breakup.

The revised timeline shows the first flight control system action to counteract increased drag-from what analysis now indicates was a damaged left wing-occurred at 7:54:20 a.m. CST as Columbia passed over eastern California.

At Mach 20.2 and 216,000 ft. near the New Mexico/Texas border, "sharp" elevon trim motions were recorded at 7:58:03 CST as the control system further tried to counteract drag.

At 7:59:30 a.m. CST, about 3 sec. before breakup, two right firing yaw jets ignited to assist the elevons in holding the proper attitude. One second later the elevons swept through their largest motions to that point; a second after that, all data were lost.

As the accident board is beginning its work, dozens of truckloads of Columbia debris from Texas and Louisiana are arriving from Barksdale AFB, La., at a specialized Kennedy hangar. Built in 2001 ironically as a "Reusable Launch Vehicle Hangar" to support flight-test vehicles for shuttle replacement studies, the facility sits by the threshold for Kennedy Runway 33, where Columbia was to land.

Parts of the leading edge of Columbia's left wing, believed to be a less critical outboard section, were found last week in a section of the main debris field around Lufkin, Tex. Gehman said investigators continue to be interested in debris west of Fort Worth. As of Feb.13, none had been recovered.

Imagery of the reentry remains vital to the investigation, Gehman said. "We are building a great mosaic, combining various video products [to mold] the exact timeline of the video, telemetry and radar observations into a sophisticated audio-visual and telemetry reconstruction from the time Columbia crossed the coast until we lost signal."

Aviation Week reported last week that a "high-resolution" image taken from an Air Force tracking camera " in the southwest" showed serious structural wing damage to the inboard leading edge of Columbia's left wing. USAF Maj. Gen. (ret.) Michael Kostelnik, NASA deputy associate administrator for space station and shuttle, said the image is "consistent with telemetry."

NASA subsequently released an image it said came from the Starfire facility at Kirtland AFB, N.M. Technicians there later said it was taken with an off-the-shelf telescope and computer hardware.

NASA and other engineers remain extremely interested in the released image-especially the jagged feature on the left wing and the significantly different flow pattern off its trailing edge.

Civilian imagery analysts, using their own software programs to assess the image, have contacted Aviation Week. They generally support the significance of the leading edge feature, although one program indicates that it could be a thermal ab-normality resulting from structural damage rather than damage itself, while another made the feature disappear altogether.

The analysis reviewed here agrees on the significance of the left trailing edge plume compared with the right. Image analyst John Warner, who has processed different types of imagery for both NASA and Defense Dept., applied multiple software runs to the image. He said data from several of those runs indicate the left wing trailing edge plume could contain structural particulate matter in addition to unusually concentrated flow. Warner has sent that analysis to NASA. He also generated a simpler histographic analysis.

That analysis used the center of the trailing edge plume to generate a vector forward-which overlays precisely the leading edge feature, a possible indication that the leading edge feature is generating the disturbed hypersonic flow behind the left wing."

1,848 posted on 02/14/2003 5:55:06 PM PST by Thud
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To: All
There are two interesting points in the above AvLeak article:

"The revised timeline shows the first flight control system action to counteract increased drag-from what analysis now indicates was a damaged left wing-occurred at 7:54:20 a.m. CST as Columbia passed over eastern California."

I.e., the first evidence of port drag occurred right over the Owens Valley observatory with the Cal-Tech astronomer watching and taking pictures of the first thingies detaching from the orbiter.

"The analysis reviewed here agrees on the significance of the left trailing edge plume compared with the right. Image analyst John Warner, who has processed different types of imagery for both NASA and Defense Dept., applied multiple software runs to the image. He said data from several of those runs indicate the left wing trailing edge plume could contain structural particulate matter in addition to unusually concentrated flow."

I.e., John Jamieson and Xbob got it exactly right.

1,849 posted on 02/14/2003 7:00:49 PM PST by Thud
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To: Thud
thanks Thud. Now, guess what I just found, and what was burning, and dropping off, making the small flares, what we all missed, right where the 'foam' hit.

Left wing aluminum honeycomb panels on forward glove, wheel well door and laterals, and the elevon

Could the curve in the rear actually be the heat from the elevon (made from aluminum honeycomb, bending and burning? The above link is a pdf file, which needs blown up to see. Hope to have a section for Budge soon.

1,850 posted on 02/14/2003 7:18:58 PM PST by XBob
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To: Budge
Yes Budge, those "flashes" and separation events were recorded by an astronomer in California. I think the video is made by a guy standing in California as the vehicle passes over the Sierras and into Nevada.
1,851 posted on 02/14/2003 7:29:38 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: freepersup; John Jamieson
Slight correction to your comment regarding the forces upon the object sep'ing from the vehicle.

At all times the object has gravity acting upon it. The acceleration towards the Earth of the object is constant. However, the object's velocity towards the Earth is not constant. It starts at the point of separation with a slight initial velocity downwards (which we can calculate based upon the heights NASA posted in their map .pdf file). I assumed a v(iy) = zero because it made my calculation easier.

The trajectory of the falling object is actually a parabola, which is where the mathematic equations which predict the object's trajectory originate.

Forces which are not accounted for in the basic equations of a falling body are (as you stated) aerodynamics/drag though the atmosphere. In addition, the object is heating (due to it's velocity) and is likely burning through some part of the reentry. So, the mass is not constant.
1,852 posted on 02/14/2003 7:34:22 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: spunkets
Greetings from a newbie here. What extraordinary work you folks are doing!

In the image in #1838, I realize that we are seeing, not the shuttle itself, but the light-emitting plasma surrounding it. The distortion on the left wing has been much commented on, and seems to be an irregular "shock wave" from wing problems, rather than an image of the wing problems themselves.

But something about the angles is curious to me. The apparent offset or yaw from flight path has been noted--but the Orbiter is also substantially nose high at this point. It initially enters atmosphere close to 40 degrees, and would still be quite nose up at this point. When you mentally superimpose the nose-up attitude, it's difficult to make the angles make sense.

If we're looking at the shuttle from directly underneath (i.e. from some distance ahead on the ground track) then we wouldn't need to take this into account. But from any other vantage point, there's going to be a foreshortening.

I've read the thread, but do not recall seeing the approximate azimuth at which the image was taken. Does anyone here know?
1,853 posted on 02/14/2003 7:35:35 PM PST by The_Level_Head
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To: Budge
Yes.
I saved that image also.
Note the time on the image 7:02 AM.
Is that one hour after the accident or the exact time of the accident?

Does anyone have a similar link for california/Sacramento weather radar on 2-1-03?
1,854 posted on 02/14/2003 7:38:03 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: wirestripper
I wonder what the weather is like in Nevada?

Snow?
1,855 posted on 02/14/2003 7:38:47 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: bonesmccoy; Budge; John Jamieson; spunkets; snopercod; freepersup; wirestripper; All
bump 1850
1,856 posted on 02/14/2003 7:40:22 PM PST by XBob
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To: freepersup
Perhaps.
Or, perhaps they don't want us in the recovery target areas for fear that we will recover an object and tweak it before they can control it.

Tonopah weather is 37-47 degrees... mmm yeah... it's cold out in that land!

Perhaps we'll have to go driving after the thaw?
1,857 posted on 02/14/2003 7:40:40 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: XBob
Owen's Valley is quite a drive inside of California.

Between Owen's Valley and Nevada is Death Valley.
1,858 posted on 02/14/2003 7:41:32 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: Budge
As far as my wiseacre friends here, they too may be happy to appear...and teach the boys at NASA a few lessons.

Hmmm... :)

1,859 posted on 02/14/2003 7:43:02 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: freepersup
Hey dog gone it... what happened to my part of the deal?
LOL

We sound like a bunch of democrats looking for the federal moola...

While the RATS argue, we'll go out and find the piece that came off over California.
1,860 posted on 02/14/2003 7:45:34 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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