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Chambers County (Texas) Narcotics Task Force Goes Fishing
Houston Area Texans - A FreeRepublic Network Chapter ^ | February 3, 2003 | Jim Chessher

Posted on 02/03/2003 1:16:14 AM PST by Flyer

Chambers County Narcotics Task Force Goes Fishing

This goes under my category of "The traffic stop as the primary law enforcement tool." Some may classify this as good pro-active policing. I call it a fishing expedition.

I am a contract delivery driver. I return to passengers luggage that has been lost by various airlines. My range is a wide swath of southeast Texas. When Nacogdoches became the center of attention for the recovery of the shuttle Columbia, I knew I could expect to be heading that way. I received the first such call about 4:00 p.m. Sunday afternoon, February 2.

Northbound on Highway 59, a few miles south of Cleveland, I went past a semi-marked police vehicle (no external emergency lights; a seal on the door) that was parked in a median crossover. I was among 10 - 15 other vehicles. All of us were at or below the speed limit. Checking my rearview mirror I noticed the police vehicle had pulled onto the highway. In a short time he had worked his way through the traffic and positioned his car to the left and behind me - in my blind spot. I had the cruise control on and kept a steady speed. He maintained his position in my blind spot. After about a mile he pulled in my lane behind me and hit the lights.

After we were stopped on the shoulder he approached my door and asked me to step out and present my driver's license. It is more common for police to want one to stay in the car so I confirmed he wanted me to step out. He said the reason he stopped me was because "you were all over the road back there." He asked if I had been drinking and where I was going and why. When I told him I was headed to Nacogdoches to return some luggage, that wasn't good enough and I had to explain my job, my position as a contract driver, where I had picked up the luggage and so on. He asked me if I had any paperwork on the luggage and I showed my delivery ticket. He wanted to know who the person was that was named on the ticket. Again I explain I am just delivering the luggage and don't know the person.

He tells me he is going to check my license and write me a warning, and he returns to his car. Maybe five minutes pass and he approaches me and asks if I have ever been arrested before. I give him the date and charge of two previous arrests. He said the computer was running a little slow and he was still waiting for the return on my license. Next he asks if there are any drugs or guns in the car and I tell him no. He ask "Is it okay if I have a look?" I tell him no. He ask why and I tell him I need to get my delivery to Nacogdoches. "Well, that's your right. So I can't have a look?" he says. Again I tell him no. He points to an area further off the shoulder of the road and tells me to wait over there, he is going to call for a dog.

He makes his call from the car as I stand on the side of the road. And I stand there. And I stand there. It seemed much longer, but about 15 minutes later a City of Cleveland marked patrol car arrives. The officer gets his dog out and circles the car. Nothing. They circle it a second time. Nothing. They circle it a third time. Nothing. They circle it a fourth time. Nothing. The K-9 officer, the initiating officer and the third person go back towards the police cars. (the third person is with the initiating Task Force officer - I think he is just a ride along) I wait on the side of the road. After another 10 - 15 minutes a third police car arrives and the officer gets out with another dog. They circle the car once. Nothing. They circle the car twice. The dog barks once near the drivers door. They circle a third time. Nothing.

The initiating officer tells me the dog has indicated that there is, or has been, narcotics or other material in the car and he is going to have a look. He searches the driver's seat area first. Next he removes the luggage I am to deliver and opens it up on the shoulder of the road. He goes through all the items and smaller bags inside, the zippered pockets, etc. and puts it back in the car. He then searches the passenger side, my briefcase and camera case and so on. Next he opens the trunk. There is nothing in there but the spare tire but he knocks here and there looking for hidden compartments. Next he opens the hood and pokes around the engine compartment. He returns to the passenger area and searches some more.

An hour and a half after the initial stop he finishes the warning ticket (driving on the shoulder) and has me sign it. He says that if I have something in the car I have it well hidden and he still thinks my story is a little odd to him. End of encounter.

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Some notes and observations:

The warning ticket was from the Chambers County Narcotics Task Force. I was in Liberty County.

The officer never asked to see my proof of insurance.

My car's tag number wasn't completed on the ticket.

I drive for a living. I won't claim I am above mistakes. I drove 100,000 miles last year without incident. I haven't had an accident or moving violation in 30 years.

50% of the drug sniffing dogs were wrong.

My opinion of law enforcement has been tainted again.

 



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: abuse; chamberscounty; lawenforcement; police; texas; warondrugs; wodlist
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To: _Jim
Inscription Required

Maybe I was unclear. The car did have a seal on the doors. There are LEO cars in the area that do not have any external markings, just lights hidden in the grill. Some of them don't even use the 'exempt' plates most police cars do. I think it is very dangerous for police to make traffic stops in vehicles that are not clearly marked.

61 posted on 02/03/2003 1:52:12 PM PST by Flyer (God Bless America)
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To: Sandy
I think this applies, doesn't it?

It may apply but since I wasn't monetarily damaged no lawyer would take a second look at it.

62 posted on 02/03/2003 1:54:27 PM PST by Flyer (God Bless America)
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To: ThinkDifferent
I've heard of cops pulling over drivers because they were "suspiciously" driving under the speed limit.

I was a passenger in a car where that exact thing happened.

63 posted on 02/03/2003 1:58:42 PM PST by Flyer (God Bless America)
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To: _Jim
in Tx license plates *only* need to be illuminated to be "clearly legible at a distance of 50 feet from the rear".

Yeah, I didn't even get a written warning on that one. Another fishing expedition.

64 posted on 02/03/2003 2:00:54 PM PST by Flyer (God Bless America)
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To: Flyer
The car did have a seal on the doors. There are LEO cars in the area that do not have any external markings,

Reading Tx law posted above, the Law Enf agencies in a county or city must comply with 721.005 and specifically get permission from the "Governing body of a municipality" in order to be exempted from posting "in letters plainly legible at a distance of not less than 100 feet" ... " on each side of the vehicle".

IOW - Law Enf must submit a request to their city or county "Governing body of a municipality" in order to be exempted from this state requirement of posting clearly who they are:

§ 721.005. Exemption From Inscription Requirement for Certain Municipal and County-Owned Motor Vehicles

Subsection (a) as amended by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 66, § 1

(a) The governing body of a municipality may exempt from the requirements of Section 721.004 an automobile when used to perform an official duty by a:

(1) police department;

I know of a county in East Tx where the Sherriff got into a pissing contest with the commissioners - and the commissioners in turn 'leaned' on the Sherriff invoking various state statutes that give them governance over those Law Enf people under their control ...
65 posted on 02/03/2003 2:05:37 PM PST by _Jim (//NASA has a better safety record than NASCAR\\)
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To: bobbyd
HA!!!

Me a "child of the 60's??"

66 posted on 02/03/2003 2:08:02 PM PST by Flyer (God Bless America)
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To: _Jim
There have been cases in the Houston area, and I'm sure elsewhere, of individuals using a "Kojak" light or such to impersonate an officer and pull cars over. When the story hits the news the reporters advise anyone in that situation to drive to a well lit area where there are other people. Yeah, that's going to put a cop in a good mood when you don't pull over promptly.
67 posted on 02/03/2003 2:19:04 PM PST by Flyer (God Bless America)
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To: _Jim; All
My brother brought up a point I hadn't considerd - there may have been a tip to look for a similar vehicle. The Task Force car was perpendicular to traffic as he sat in the median as to see the traffic.

If this was the case it would have been the polite thing to do to explain this to me.

68 posted on 02/03/2003 2:25:17 PM PST by Flyer (God Bless America)
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To: Flyer; All
You are a man of great patience. I can only hope that the Officers
involved were either not typical or under stress.. they behaved poorly.

FRiends, I know Flyer and he is a nice, polite, upstanding hardworking guy.
Definately not the sort of fellow you would single out as a problem.

69 posted on 02/03/2003 3:22:08 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
You are a man of great patience.

I think "restraint" may be a better description. I had to make conscience decisions to bite my tongue and let the events take their course.

70 posted on 02/03/2003 3:32:58 PM PST by Flyer (God Bless America)
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To: humblegunner; Flyer; bobbyd
FRiends, I know Flyer and he is a nice, polite, upstanding hardworking guy. Definately not the sort of fellow you would single out as a problem.

Except he talks funny!!!




Child of the 60's!!!!!


Stay safe; stay armed.
Eaker Freeper Status

71 posted on 02/03/2003 5:41:11 PM PST by Eaker (I assemble automatic weapons in my sleep.......no wonder they never work!!!!!!. . . . .;>)
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To: _Jim
It is left to us, the reader to *assume* he wasn't all over the road ...

Nothing of the sort. The cop was harassing him by sitting in a place such that he would have to frequently take his eyes off the road ahead to see. Especially unnerving since he's had run ins with cops before. They implicitly admitted this behavior by not giving him a ticket with a fine which could end up with their little game coming to court.

72 posted on 02/03/2003 9:53:48 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Flyer
I can't believe I'm saying this, but the ACLU (yeah, them) may want to hear your story. This is one of the areas where they actually do some good. If ACLU would get out of the "abortion rights" business, and show some support towards the 2nd Amendment (yeah, that's a civil right too), I might actually consider supporting them.

Also write (on paper) your local state senator, your local state representative, your Federal senators, and your Federal representative.
73 posted on 02/03/2003 10:12:42 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Eaker
Except he talks funny!

So does Gomer Pyle, but look at the respect he gets.

74 posted on 02/03/2003 11:04:00 PM PST by Flyer (God Bless America)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Also write (on paper) your local state senator, your local state representative. . .

That's on my list, and I know it has to be on paper to be looked at seriously

Quanell the Tenth and his New Black Panthers had a tiff with Chambers County recently and I think it was regarding traffic stops. I haven't found the story yet.

75 posted on 02/03/2003 11:18:24 PM PST by Flyer (God Bless America)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Alamo-Girl do you know more about this issue???
76 posted on 02/03/2003 11:46:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Flyer
Touché!!
77 posted on 02/04/2003 3:38:41 AM PST by Eaker (I assemble automatic weapons in my sleep.......no wonder they never work!!!!!!. . . . .;>)
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To: Bacon Man; Hap
Absolute BS ping!!!!

(These are the guys we need to go to the range with, btw.)
78 posted on 02/04/2003 6:41:09 AM PST by Xenalyte
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Sorry, it's news to me.
79 posted on 02/04/2003 8:38:03 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Flyer
Wow.... That is some story..... just saw this now!
80 posted on 02/04/2003 7:53:26 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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