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A racist rant too far? Police investigate Taki the playboy pundit
Independent ^
| 01 February 2003
| By Sholto Byrnes
Posted on 02/02/2003 6:29:22 PM PST by gd124
A racist rant too far? Police investigate Taki the playboy pundit By Sholto Byrnes
01 February 2003
Taki Theodoracopoulos once served four months in Pentonville Prison for possession of cocaine. Now the prospect of a two-year stretch in jail looms for the Greek playboy and columnist.
Taki and The Spectator, for which he writes the "High Life" column, are being investigated by Scotland Yard over an article he wrote in the magazine's 11 January edition.
The investigation was triggered by a complaint from Peter Herbert, a lawyer and member of the Metropolitan Police Authority. The Yard's Diversity Directorate will assess whether the piece incites racial hatred and thereby breaks the Public Order Act, for which the maximum sentence is two years.
Even by Taki's standards the piece was extraordinarily offensive. Under the headline "Thoughts on Thuggery" he wrote: "Oh boy, was Enoch God rest his soul ever right! Now there's a man who was tough on the causes of crime long before the crime had been Blaired."
Referring to the New Year shootings of two black girls in Birmingham he continued: "Only a moron would not surmise that what politically-correct newspapers refer to as 'disaffected young people' are black thugs, sons of black thugs and grandsons of black thugs ... West Indians were allowed to immigrate after the war, multiply like flies, and then the great state apparatus took over the care of their multiplications. The "Rivers of Blood "speech by Enoch was prophetic as well as true, and look what the bullshitters of the time did to the great man."
The article has already caused considerable embarrassment to Boris Johnson, editor of The Spectator and a Tory MP. "It was a terrible thing," said Mr Johnson, who was on holiday the week the article appeared but takes full responsibility for its publication.
"It should never have gone in." Informed of the police investigation, Mr Johnson declined to comment until he heard from Scotland Yard.
Such casual racism is the stock-in-trade of Taki, who is known mainly by his first name. In 1997 he described Puerto Ricans in New York as "a bunch of semi-savages ... fat, squat, ugly, dusky, dirty." In 2001 he called himself a "soi-disant anti-Semite" and has also referred to Kenya as "bongo-bongo land".
Repulsive though such comments are, they are what pass for humour in the Eurotrash plutocratic circles in which Taki mixes. His world skis at Gstaad, goes to the Ascot races a crowd of "society" figures who are slowly departing for the great gambling tables of the hereafter.
Married to Princess Alexandra Schoenburg, Taki inherited a fortune from his father John and divides his time between a $5m house in New York's Upper East Side and Gstaad, where he recently crashed his car.
His strict treatment at the hands of the local police is what prompted his musings on crime problems in Britain.
His friends and acquaintances are the characters that fill his friend Nigel Dempster's pages. The Daily Mail gossip columnist refers to Taki as the "Greek sportsman", a description he has earned through his past participation in the Davis Cup and captaining of the Greek karate team.
He was close to Gianni Agnelli. His friendship with the Fiat magnate lasted 45 years until his recent death. "K", the Aga Khan, was a friend and he boasts an on-off friendship with Mohamed al-Fayed, English aristocrats, obscure European royalty and any pretty girl who chances across his path.
He is famously libidinous and is happy to call himself a "playboy".
His interest in right-wing politics comes from his father, and he is proud of the fact that not much thought has gone into his views. "Why make up your own mind when someone else can make up your mind for you?" he has asked.
Along with the Duke of Devonshire and the Earl of Portsmouth he was one of the backers of Neil Hamilton's failed libel bid against Mr Fayed, although he was not best pleased when he later found himself being pursued for Mr Fayed's costs.
Taki is happy to admit, as readers of his Spectator column know, to taking a line so right-wing it borders on the fascist. When building a new house he declared that he would name it "Palazzo Pinochet", after the Chilean dictator. General Franco is another of his heroes.
When Mr Johnson took over the editorship of The Spectator there was speculation that Taki would go, being considered a relic of the magazine's past.
Taki even wrote a column announcing that he had been sacked. Unfortunately for his critics and he has many even among the Telegraph group, of which The Spectator is a part he was joking, leading Max Hastings, then editor of the Evening Standard, to remark: "You always know where you are with Taki. Like the Prussians, he is either at your knees or your throat."
One senior Telegraph executive said Taki had no privileged position and that any decision on his future will be "down to Boris".
But Taki has had at least one run-in with Conrad Black, owner of The Spectator. His anti-semite claim so incensed Mr Black that the owner of The Daily Telegraph wrote a two-page letter to his own magazine, condemning Taki.
If the Scotland Yard investigation does find against Taki, Mr Johnson will be expected to sack him. Taki once described himself as "worthless". The question is now whether his editor agrees with him.
The sayings of Taki Theodoracopoulos
Taki on New York's Puerto Ricans
"A bunch of semi-savages ... fat, squat, ugly, dusky, dirty and unbelievably loud. They turned Manhattan into Palermo faster than you can say 'spic'."
Taki on Africa
"Democracy is as likely to come to bongo-bongo land as I am to send a Concorde ticket to my children."
Taki on Britain's Black Population
"What politically correct newspapers refer to as 'disaffected young people' are black thugs, sons of black thugs and grandsons of black thugs ... West Indians were allowed to immigrate after the war [and] multiply like flies."
Taki on Cherie Blair
"Not that I'm calling Cherie Blair a whore. She couldn't be one even if she wanted to; not good-looking enough."
Taki on Hillary Clinton
"She, too, could not make a living from the world's oldest profession because of ugly looks and terrible ankles."
Taki on Himself
"I'm a family man, a provider, I pay my taxes, I'm white (although always sun-tanned) ... I inherited from my old man ... I employ people, I own a yacht ... you name it, I'm guilty of it."
Taki on William And Jack Straw
"In Cool Britannia we don't send the son of a left-wing prick like Straw to jail for dealing [drugs]; we vote him president of the Oxford Union (sic) instead. (Apparently he is as much of a dictator as his father, and just as phony)."
Taki on Bill Clinton And Tony Blair
"[They] are, of course, the masters of the direct lie, able to look straight into the camera and tell incredible whoppers that would make Mother Teresa blush. The man [Tony Blair] is pathetic, almost on the level of Bill Clinton, except for the hair."
Taki on Ian Hislop
"Hislop deals in ruining people's lives through falsehoods, half-truths and gossip ... When that court high up in the sky gives the final verdict, the poisoned dwarf will come off second best."
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: directorate; diversity; england; hatespeech; pc; taki
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To: BnBlFlag
Read post #2. I don't think he should be in jail. A punch in the mouth might do him a world of good, though.
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posted on
02/02/2003 7:42:33 PM PST
by
kms61
To: kms61
Thanks for the reply. I haven't read anything of his before. I thought that you were making the same old racism=fascism=right wing leftist false argument.
To: dennisw
This reminds me of the defunct TV comedy series "In Living Color".
Can you imagine how the Brits and Canadians would freak on that show?
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posted on
02/02/2003 8:00:36 PM PST
by
Abcdefg
To: I_Love_My_Husband
Wow! Taki sure has a way with the pen! Slash and burn writing...reminds me of Ann C. I like what I read because it's very un-pc. Taki shares virtually nothing in common with Coulter, except that neither is shy about expressing their thoughts. But that's where the similarity ends. Ann is both smart and (relatively) sane. Taki is a hate-filled nutball. You're mistaking politically incorrect with certifiably insane.
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posted on
02/02/2003 8:10:47 PM PST
by
Mr. Mojo
To: gd124
Ah, Taki indeed. Certainly this working class lad (snot nose) has read some of his stuff. Far from the old socialist cries though- of parasite, idle rich, as of my past socialist youth , I find my later conservative beliefs handy.
A sneaking admiration here. Perhaps born 350 years too late ,this man. A bawdy, swashbuckler- a cavalier or a pirate captain indeed. A short life and a merry one.
Coming back to reality though. He is in 21st century Britain. A country where farmer Tony Martin who whipped off three blasts of his shotgun in the dark. Poor Martin had been threatened and burgled by rotten thugs-over 14 times. One died. His parole just refused- because the poor man thinks " things were better fifty years ago". He has not, the board said, shown "remorse".
In the meantime let me relish what is now going on, because of Taki. Oh what a fluttering, a mock diversity loving ,horrific amazement of bureaucrats.Oh the running to and fro, the silly, frightened assed police. Good for a Gilbert and Sullivan light opera.
Note to Taki, apply to a free country for asylum- only bring lots of money.
To: dennisw
Taki OWNS Buchannan's new magazine.
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posted on
02/02/2003 8:14:10 PM PST
by
billhilly
(On fire for BIG AL SHARPTON)
To: habs4ever
"He deserves all he gets."
From what I hear, he gets a lot.
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posted on
02/02/2003 8:16:45 PM PST
by
billhilly
(On fire for BIG AL SHARPTON)
To: gd124
Diversity Directorate?! Diversity Directorate?!
Are you bloody kidding, mate?!
To: gd124
I don't care what he writes, whether good or bad, true or false... Taki is not nearly as frightening as the mere IDEA of a "Diversity Directorate" being able to put him in jail for writing this kind of stuff. Especially when on any Friday, in any mosque in England, you can hear not only racist putdowns, but incentive to riot and murder, war and revolution. I can't believe that anyone on this forum would think that a free man's thoughts should be subject to a Diversity Directorate!
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posted on
02/02/2003 8:26:24 PM PST
by
Jerez2
To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Unfortunately not. And it's headed by Commander Cressida Dick.
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posted on
02/02/2003 8:28:14 PM PST
by
gd124
To: habs4ever
So someone writing opinions that you disagree with deserves to be jailed?
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posted on
02/02/2003 8:28:56 PM PST
by
gd124
To: gd124
In my opinion, Taki didn't say anything in this article that was any more racially offensive than what you would hear in a typical Chris Rock stand-up comedy routine. And I love Chris Rock!
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posted on
02/02/2003 8:32:17 PM PST
by
judgeandjury
(The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.)
To: gd124
Here's the Jew-hating Taki column:
Rich rewards
Taki
Rougemont
The jet-set is in mourning and, like Electra, it becomes it. Marc Rich has called off his Las Vegas-theme party in St Moritz this weekend, which will force a few Englishmen in the Engadine to commit an unnatural act and pay their own bill. The reason given was the bad publicity and the hounding of the host by the press. The last time Marc Rich called off a party was in Spain, about five or six years ago. His Mossad-trained bodyguards were tipped off that his private jet would be forced down the moment it left Swiss airspace by Yankee F-16s, so he stayed put. No reason was offered back then. Although the US government was out to grab him, Rich had the proverbial ace up his sleeve. By giving lotsa moolah to Israel, he was being fed information by Mossad that even the top brass of the Pentagon werent getting. Mossad knew that the snatch was on by listening in on the Americans. They tipped off the fugitive fraudster, a move that eventually made Bill Clinton rich, pun intended.
Last week I wrote in my own Takis Top Drawer that, as America was not as yet Israel-occupied territory, the 200 million Rich gave to those nice guys, who attack rock-throwing youth with armour-piercing missiles, should not count as philanthropy where America is concerned. To my great annoyance the sentence never appeared. When I rang in an Orlando Furioso mood, I was told by a very polite flunky that we were trying to protect you, this is New York.
Well, there you have it. Marc Rich I have never met and hope never to. I once went out to dinner following a Norman Mailer book party with a Greek called Olga and Normans son, my buddy Michael Mailer, the boxer and film producer, who happened to have an Estee Lauder blonde (common but not too bad) in tow. The blonde thought my girl was from the lower classes because she (Olga) stood up to shake hands with her. She snubbed her throughout the evening. (Actually, shes a Greek royal.) We went to Elaines, and after lotsa boozing, I asked the blonde her name. Daniella Rich, came the answer. Being well oiled, I told her it was not her fault her father was a Christian-basher who had caused more harm to Broadway and the theatre in general than Bomber Harris had to Dresden. She looked nonplussed. My father hates the theatre, never goes, or words to that effect. Then the penny dropped. Papa was not fat Frank Rich of the New York Times. Papa was the crook who was to pull off the impossible: drag the whore Bill Clinton down to his level. But back to the party which never was.
A pretty American girl called Serena Boardman was coming all the way from Noo Yawk for it. When I asked her whether she would go to a party given, say, by John Gotti, the dapper Don, as the Big Bagel tabloids refer to him, she told me it was not the same thing. Yes, I said. Gotti is dumb and in jail; Rich, the far bigger criminal and traitor, is in St Moritz. Thats the way it goes, sports fans. The truly big crooks get away with it and go to St Moritz and Gstaad, the little guys go to the big house up the river. And if any of you believe that Rich has not passed money under the table to Bill Clinton, then you should also believe that Im Monica Lewinskys mother.
Marc Rich, however, has done us a favour. By bribing everyone and sundry, he managed to expose the side of Clinton so many leftists and liberals refused to see. He also proved what we, soi-disant anti-Semites for daring to protest about soldiers shooting at kids, always knew. The way to Uncle Sams heart runs through Tel Aviv and Israeli-occupied territory. Rich and Clinton deserve each other. Both make everyone around them seem bigger.
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posted on
02/02/2003 8:37:39 PM PST
by
Pharmboy
(Dems lie 'cause they have to)
To: gd124
The man is direct, to the point, honest and...well yes FUNNY. There was even a crack somewhere about some of MY ancestors (Palermo).
Don't look for Taki to tap dance around an issue or an opinion -- even if he is threatened with a two year sentence for what??? "Inciting racial hatred??" Sheer idiocy...
The only things they won't arrest you for in England are:
Spending 25 hours a day at the pub; Smoking too many "fags," OR peeing in public.
To: gd124
I am afraid that the the Human Rights Commission of Canada has done its evil work only too well. Not all Canadians can quickly cross over- as I can- to the Land of the Free. In this way, I can realise that the baleful influence of the thought police has gone.
I hope our Canadian friend can please try to see how he and others have been suborned. Old saying though. People cannot see the woods for the trees. At least old Al Sharpton serves a lovely purpose. If he can rap off racist style, so can others. Taki could match the lovable old race baiter Sharpton at his own game- in a free country.
To: Pharmboy
My friend Taki has gone too far
By Conrad Black - The Spectator.co.uk
Last weeks anti-Israel diatribe by The Spectators High Life columnist is almost worthy of Goebbels, says Conrad Black The Spectators social writer, Taki Theodoracopulos, has often graciously referred to me as an indulgent proprietor. Our relations have been cordial for 15 years and we have frequently been each others guests, have been friendly with each others spouses and have many mutual friends. Long before I knew him I was aware of his penchant, sometimes entertaining but sometimes excessive, to denigrate certain ethnic groups, most often the Jews. With such a bonhomous character there is a natural tendency to overlook his lapses of judgment and give him the benefit of the doubt that he is only railing against the prissy hypersensitivities of political correctness. It is hard to imagine that a person with whom you are friendly and have had many memorably agreeable times is a racist who wishes and incites violence against innocent people because of their ethnicity or religion.
Yes, were from Mars. But, if youre thinking of coming, forget it. We dont like illegal immigrants
I defended Taki when he was attacked by the Mayor of New York for a very insulting column about Puerto Ricans in 1997. His remarks were outrageous but, as the Puerto Ricans did make a mess on Fifth Avenue, they contained a kernel of truth and did not incite violence against Puerto Ricans. Nor are Puerto Ricans under any particular external threat. Nor do they have a history of being savagely oppressed. In the same spirit I defended one of our other writers, William Cash, against the wrath of the entire US film industry in 1994, when he published an article about the leading Jewish figures in that industry which was somewhat insulting but well short of an incitement to racial hatred.
These were not among my most enjoyable moments as a publisher, but it is the duty of a publisher to defend his writers unless they are, for whatever reason, indefensible. Writers, like everyone else, have the right to dislike individuals and whole nationalities and ethnic groups. They have the right to express their dislike if they do so rationally, are not legally defamatory, and if they are within the bounds of civilized taste. Our publications will never be hounded into politically correct avoidance of any forceful opinion touching ethnicity, sectarianism, gender or sexual orientation. To do so would be to accept a muzzle on freedom of expression and to prevent comment on large and interesting aspects of life. My associates and I would shut down our publications rather than submit to such restrictions.
Unfortunately, last week in this magazine, Takis reflections were indefensible. He expressed a hatred for Israel and a contempt for the United States and its political institutions that were irrational and an offence to civilized taste. In the process, I am afraid he uttered a blood libel on the Jewish people wherever they may be.
He wrote that the United States had intended to invade French air space to force down fugitive financier Marc Richs aeroplane (on orders ultimately from the same commander-in-chief who has now pardoned Rich); that Israeli intelligence knew more of US Air Force activities than the Pentagon did and shared this information with Rich because Israels favour had been bought by Rich. For Taki, the United States was not yet Israel-occupied territory; that is, occupied by those nice guys who attack rock-throwing youth with armour-piercing missiles. He acknowledged his anti-Semitism but implicitly defined it as daring to protest about soldiers shooting at kids, and he asserted that the way to Uncle Sams heart runs through Tel Aviv and Israeli-occupied territory.
In both its venomous character and its unfathomable absurdity, this farrago of lies is almost worthy of Goebbels or the authors of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The Jews, according to Taki, have suborned the US government, direct that countrys military like a docile attack dog, and glory in the murder of innocent or mischievous children. He presents the universal Jewish ethos as brutish, vulgar, grasping and cunningly wicked.
It is a fearful thing to contemplate that someone with whom I have had such long and cordial relations should use a publication of ours for such malignant purposes, however veiled in his familiar recourse to harmless excess, or even amplified by his frequent and publicly confessed intake of intoxicating substances.
I wouldnt suspect Taki of co-ordinating his views with anyone elses. But his opinions are not greatly more extreme than those of large sections of the British media which habitually apply a double standard when judging the Israelis and Palestinians. Behind the spurious defense of merely seeking justice for the Palestinians, most of the relevant sections of the BBC, Independent, Guardian, Evening Standard and the Foreign and Commonwealth Office are rabidly anti-Israel. I doubt that most of the people involved would be hostile to someone merely because that person was Jewish, though some would, but they are almost all, wittingly or not, stoking the inferno of anti-Semitism.
The origins of the ArabIsraeli problem are too complicated for easy summary, but among the points normally overlooked by most of the British media is that the government of the United Kingdom bears a unique responsibility for the problem. It sold the same real estate twice. In the direst moments of the first world war Britain promised the same territory to the Jews and to the Arabs.
Israel, after an unconscionable length of time, and with the exact borders still in dispute, has accepted the principle of two states in the territory it once hoped to occupy itself. The Palestinians have not accepted the right of the state of Israel to survive. They do not accept the Israelis as an indigenous people and still think of them as foreign colonial occupiers like the British, the Turks and the Romans. This and the implosion of Arafats authority among his own people, and not the actions of the Israelis, are the sources of the present impasse, and every knowledgeable observer of the Middle East knows it.
The West Bank is now governed by groups of thugs, and Arafat has been afraid to go there for several months. The Palestinian Authority is a brutal dictatorship and one of the most financially corrupt regimes in the world. The PLO has not lived up to any of its significant obligations under the Oslo Accords, including expunging the anti-Israel clauses of the Palestine National Charter. Barak went as far as any Israeli leader could possibly go at Camp David and was rewarded with rejection by Arafat and the unleashing of a new insurrection. Large numbers of Palestinians have been persuaded that glorious eternity awaits them if they manage to die at the hands of the Israelis. Fortified by this belief, mobs of stone-throwers have been pushed forward with snipers interspersed among them and children in the vanguard to take the brunt of the Israeli response. Sharon gave the Muslim leaders plenty of notice of his now famous ten-minute walk on the Temple Mount, and did nothing on it that was disrespectful of Islam or of the Palestinian people. Arafat has declared that he requires an almost unlimited right of return of designated Palestinians, including millions born after the initial departure in 1948, and the demographic inundation of Israel with Arabs. It is as if the UK were asked to receive 60 million people of a foreign nationality with which we had been at war for more than 50 years. Apart from Adolf Eichmann, Israel has never executed anyone, including terrorists a refreshing contrast to the peremptory executions routinely conducted by the Palestinians and some other neighbouring regimes.
We hear almost nothing of any of this from most of the British media or the Foreign Office. We hear only shrill orchestrated solicitude for the supposed underdog and relentless antagonism against Israel ostensibly the Israeli government but, inevitably and implicitly, the Jews.
These Jews are the same people whom Pope John Paul II has recognized as not the cousins but the brothers and sisters of all Christians, the chosen people of the Old Testament, to whom the world should repent, as he did, for millennia of oppression. The Popes own record in these matters is exemplary, but he repented for his one billion co-religionists and for the 2,000-year history of the worlds foremost Church.
Israel has many failings, and of course the treatment of the Palestinians by the Israelis, by the Arab powers who keep them in the camps (breeding grounds for their terrorist cannon fodder), and by the United Nations is a crime in which we are all complicit. Of course the world must put this right.
But we will not put it right by returning to the ancient and evil practice of persecuting the Jewish people, to whom we owe so much for its genius in almost every field and its courage in heroic circumstances for nearly 6,000 years. The Jews, as much as any other people, have shown the world what human bravery and perseverance can achieve. It was pathetic and shaming that many of the distinguished leaders of Londons Jewish community felt the need to tell me last week, after local performances of the Israeli Philharmonic Orchestra, that they hoped that people will realize that Israel doesnt just quell Palestinian riots.
All Israel really wants is to be like other countries, to be accepted in the world as a people with dignity and a right to a state. Israel has that right. It is a sophisticated democracy and a society of laws. Those neurotic racists who dispute that right should be forced to come out from behind the skirts of legitimate differences of opinion in Middle Eastern controversies. They should be made to face those who would be their victims.
And those who have assisted them, through lassitude or negligence or malice, should follow the Popes inspiring example: they should repent. The Pharisees and hypocrites in the British press should repent their calumnies. A few days after Arafat cavalierly rejected generous concessions from Israel and unleashed his latest bloodbath, the Foreign Secretary was photographed walking hand-in-hand with Arafat and caused Britain to condemn Israel at the United Nations. He should repent and exorcise the institutional bias of his department.
In our publications justice will be done.
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posted on
02/02/2003 8:46:09 PM PST
by
dennisw
(http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php <AND> http://rantburg.com)
To: kms61
That said, I'm hard-pressed to find anything I like about Taki. I can.
The man does not lie about himself, at least not in public. That puts him orders ahead of Bill and Hillary, or most politicians for that matter.
Better a straightforward Fascist than a Weasel Liberal.
So9
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posted on
02/02/2003 8:47:16 PM PST
by
Servant of the Nine
(Nuke 'em till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark.)
Comment #38 Removed by Moderator
To: gd124
Taki once called an rich older man's boy-toy a Catamite. His defense on charge of libel was that he intended it in the classical sense: a beautiful youth. The jury would have none of it.
To: gd124
Taki on Hillary Clinton........
"She, too, could not make a living from the world's oldest profession because of ugly looks and terrible ankles."
I don't have a problem with this writing. LOL
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