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Clinton Behind Mandela's Bush Bashing?
NewsMax.com ^
| 01 Feb. 2003
| Staff Writer
Posted on 01/31/2003 10:07:02 PM PST by txradioguy
Questions are swirling about the role ex-President Clinton may have played in encouraging one-time international human rights icon Nelson Mandela's acid attack on President Bush Thursday, where the former South African president accused his friend's successor of having an impaired intellect and being a racist.
In some of the strongest criticism ever leveled against a sitting U.S. president by any foreign leader, Mandela told the International Women's Forum in Johannesburg that Bush is "a president who has no foresight, who cannot think properly, (and) is now wanting to plunge the world into a holocaust."
Complaining about Bush's plan to attack Iraq with or without final approval from the United Nations, Mandela went so far as to imply that the U.S. leader is a racist. "Is (Bush's contingency plan to go it alone) because the secretary-general of the United Nations is now a black man?" asked Mandela, referring to Kofi Annan, who is from Ghana.
A little more than four months before Mandela launched his attack on Bush, Mr. Clinton traveled to Cape Town, South Africa to announce a joint partnership with Mandela to battle AIDS. The two are also involved in AIDS concerts planned for February and June to take place in New York and South Africa.
And in July 2002, the two ex-presidents teamed up at the International AIDS conference in Barcelona, Spain. When Clinton embraced Mandela from the stage and declared that the battle against AIDS must be won, "wild cheers" erupted from the audience, the Associated Press said.
But more recently, Clinton and Mandela have joined together to fight the Bush administration's plan to attack Iraq.
On Jan. 7, the wire service Africa News reported:
"South African Rhodes Scholars at Oxford University have been joined by 75 Rhodes Scholars from 16 other countries to form an international lobby group opposing war against Iraq.
"The group, Rhodes Scholars Against the War (RSAW), is meeting representatives of various governments to push for diplomacy rather than a military confrontation with Iraq. They.... will meet former president Nelson Mandela, who has voiced opposition to the war. They are also scheduled to hold talks with former United States president Bill Clinton and with the American Ambassador in London at the end of January."
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aids; bush; clintigula; clinton; iraq; mandela; southafrica
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To: cyborg
Very well put.
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posted on
01/31/2003 11:06:42 PM PST
by
txradioguy
(HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
To: RnMomof7
Someone refresh my memory ..wasn't it Mandela's "movement " that used tire " necklaces" on their enemies and set them on fire? I believe such terriorism is why he went to jail in the first place..so now they are going to make him a "peace " and "non violent" icon???You beat me to it. I knew someone would bring up the necklaces. The whole Mandela hypocrisy makes me sick.
42
posted on
01/31/2003 11:07:28 PM PST
by
TheSpottedOwl
(when life gives you lemons, order a bottle of Tequila and some salt)
To: txradioguy
"I thought I smelled the head RATS fingerprints on this."
Well never thought of it; what I did think when I heard Mandela's disgusting attack being aired . . . is how much Clinton must be loving this.
. . .reading the above, there is no doubt that the 'Clintonesque' factors right in with Mandela.
How very, very. . .evil.
Wondering if O'Reilly has put the two together. . .he gave no indication tonight that he has. . .
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posted on
01/31/2003 11:10:58 PM PST
by
cricket
To: nopardons
I remember that Mbeki issue being in the news for one day and that was it.
Are you from South Africa? I bet South Africa was very different post-apartheid but pre-Nelson Mandela. I lost track as to how things progressed there. Wasn't FW Declerk president after apartheid?
I'm beginning to get depressed as to the amount of things that are covered up. This is why we(esp. myself) have to become critical thinkers.
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posted on
01/31/2003 11:11:37 PM PST
by
cyborg
To: txradioguy
It wouldn't surprise me. Ol'Slick is probably beging to realize he'll be remembered in the future for his scandals and his failure to take our nation's security seriously. A petty little man like Clinton would resort to trying to diminish another president's successful legacy in a most cheap way. Won't work though, Bill seems to be losing his power of mass delusion.....
To: cyborg
No, I'm not a South African; however, my extended family live there...have done for well over 325 years.
Yes, to all of your other questions.
So much foreign news is held back from Americans. That's one good reason to read FR. :-)
To: Welsh Rabbit
I just view Clinton as a spolied child. He can't get what he wants so he's gonna do what he can to make it miserable for everyone else. He's about as welcome to mainstream America as a turn in the punch bowl.
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posted on
01/31/2003 11:19:49 PM PST
by
txradioguy
(HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
To: Welsh Rabbit
Nelson Mandela has NO " successful legacy " at all.
To: Calvin Locke
Sure hope GW puts lots of safeguards on that $15 billion we're going to waste on AIDS or it will be in Switzerland in Bill's and Nelson's bank accounts in no time.
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posted on
01/31/2003 11:23:06 PM PST
by
holyscroller
(Why are Liberal female media types always ugly to boot?)
To: tessalu
"Mandela is just a simple fool, and no other excuse is needed."
. . .wish it were so easy to dismiss this man ; but he has assumed a mythic status thanks to the efforts of the 'Left' and acquiessance of our 'Right'.
. . .no doubt plans for his 'sainthood' and cannonization are in the works and will be ready when he is. . .
Some fools are too dangerous to suffer gladly. . .and don't we know it.
50
posted on
01/31/2003 11:25:56 PM PST
by
cricket
To: txradioguy
...and everybody said apartheid was bad. Ha!
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posted on
01/31/2003 11:36:30 PM PST
by
VMI70
To: cyborg
" His wife was a terrorist that I know."
. . .yes Winnie, his wonderful wife, preferred 'necklacing' as her choice of torture. Cannot even remember if she went to jail or not for her efforts. Thinking she did. . .
South Africa is worse off than before and just as many poor Blacks there are suffering from racist hate. . .it just comes from the 'new Middle Class of Blacks who mistreat their 'lessors' like slaves.
. .not to mention a host of other Marxist ills that have brought this beautiful country to a ruinous economy and environment.
52
posted on
01/31/2003 11:40:24 PM PST
by
cricket
To: txradioguy
Doesn't matter what Clinton did/didn't do in this case. Mandela was always a racist opportunist with commie roots--and a carpetbagger to boot--he didn't need Clinton's instigation. BTW, I hear S. Africa has turned into a terrorist's metropolis.
To: cricket
I wish I went to South Africa when I had the opportunity. I heard that Sun City was a wonderful place. However, I'm not going to make comments even in the face of this news. I'm not there to see how things are now. I'm curious as to how middle class blacks are taking advantage of poor blacks. Probably money... everything is money isn't it? This probably mirrors what is going on in India... select few super rich and LOTS of poor people. However, if South Africa didn't have apartheid in the first place, there wouldn't have been this rebellion. At the same time, I am not going to waste more time trying to figure out mankind's faults and foibles. God has His chief reasons for allowing lots of things.
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posted on
01/31/2003 11:48:55 PM PST
by
cyborg
To: txradioguy
I wouldn't be afraid to bet that every remark made against Bush came shortly after a conversation with Slick, from the French, German's, Canadian's, and Mandooface.
What Slick may be overlooking is that those foreign dimwits don't VOTE over here and their words aren't convincing anyone here of anything. They're just pissing us off!!!
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posted on
01/31/2003 11:55:56 PM PST
by
Wondervixen
(Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
To: nopardons
I wasn't referring to him.
To: Jorge
If this is true, then Mandela is a fool who has now reduced his reputation to that of Clinton's
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posted on
01/31/2003 11:59:15 PM PST
by
Eala
(There. Much better.)
To: txradioguy
This Republic will soon be forced to acknowledge, that the Left IS the enemy within....
Clinton's legacy will be recorded as amongst the most incompetent, shameful and treasonist administrations in our history...
Semper Fi
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posted on
01/31/2003 11:59:28 PM PST
by
river rat
(Help save the planet ...... Work toward the extinction of Jihadists....ARM THYSELF)
To: Welsh Rabbit
Oh, sorry.
To: txradioguy
I think just got to eight years of Clinton and now that we have a man in charge it's a bit of a shock. Clinton sold out this country for the applause of the wacko European left. Now Nelson, who owes much of his power to his marxist brothers in Europe, is paying back his white masters.
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