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1 posted on 01/28/2003 9:47:16 AM PST by Pokey78
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2 posted on 01/28/2003 9:47:52 AM PST by Pokey78
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Because the state needs a birth rate of 2.1 children to maintain a stable population. In Italy, it's now 1.2.

That is tragic for old Italy. Somewhere in hell, Margaret Sanger must be screaming, "No you idiots! It's the non-white races that are supposed to dwindle away!"

4 posted on 01/28/2003 9:58:14 AM PST by xJones
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if you think a nation is the collective

Then you're a liberal.

5 posted on 01/28/2003 9:58:47 AM PST by steve-b
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Next time you're in a rundown diner and the 17-year-old waitress is eight months pregnant, don't tut "What a tragedy" and point her to the nearest Planned Parenthood clinic. Leave her a large tip instead.

I will leave a tip as large, or as small, or even as nonexistant, as the service warrants. The notion that I ought to subidize personal irresponsibility makes me wonder who this leftist is, and what he has done with Mark Steyn.

6 posted on 01/28/2003 10:01:39 AM PST by steve-b
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Pearson assures us there's plenty of other folks to take up the slack:

In Europe, that'd be the islamists. ;)

7 posted on 01/28/2003 10:03:09 AM PST by Schnucki
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Excellent, excellent Steyn.....

Doesn't look so good for the future of Europe. Perhaps Chirac and Schroeder are just the vanguard.
10 posted on 01/28/2003 10:12:08 AM PST by Rummyfan
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BTTT
11 posted on 01/28/2003 10:12:09 AM PST by nicmarlo
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Excellent.
12 posted on 01/28/2003 10:12:20 AM PST by GunRunner (Duff ManĀ® can never die. Only the actors who play him. Oooh Yeah!!!)
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Damn, he is good.
15 posted on 01/28/2003 10:15:19 AM PST by Alouette
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read later
16 posted on 01/28/2003 10:15:40 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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Abortion is complete evil. Destroying a human life before it breathes air. Pure evil.

I confronted my mother over the abortion issue once because I wanted to hear her stance. She is a 'public' school teacher and a Democrat and she said that a woman should have the right to choose because the woman may not be prepared or have planned to have a baby.

I then challenged her that she had told me before that I was an unexpected pregnancy. My father and she had planned on waiting another year. I told her that today, I am darn glad that she didn't excise her "right to choose" and rob me of my right to life. I completely shudder when I consider the thought that I may have been vacuumed out of the womb.

19 posted on 01/28/2003 10:18:22 AM PST by xrp
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Nice rant....I almost always agree with this guy.
20 posted on 01/28/2003 10:19:07 AM PST by wardaddy (anybody seen Pandora?)
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"But, if you think a nation is the collective, accumulated wisdom of a shared past, then a dependence on immigration alone for population replenishment will leave you lost and diminished."

Steyn is confusing a nation with a tribe. America is not now and never was a tribe. (Of course it doesn't help that we don't teach American history anymore but that's a different gripe)

Otherwise good post.
23 posted on 01/28/2003 10:24:21 AM PST by Varda
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You want a higher birth rate? Then the government, courts, and industry need to stop using people's children as tools for exerting power over parents and their resources. Sure, abortion contributes to the lower birth rate of westerners, but government agencies, courts, lawyers, and a growing prive sector industry has managed to turn children into the easiest way to gain power over the lives of tens of millions of people. I don't like abortion, but if it were ended tomorrow the disincentive to have more children would still be around.
36 posted on 01/28/2003 10:55:48 AM PST by Orangedog (Accept No Substitutes)
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"Dr. Howard Dean, was so anxious to demonstrate his bona fides that he all but offered to perform a partial-birth abortion on audience volunteers."

Another great one from Steyn.

Hey, conservative movement/celebrity lurkers: Steyn makes a good point above. At the NARAL convention, 'Dr.' Dean made the comment, "partial birth abortion isn't even an issue". In other words, it's a nonsensical point.

Why doesn't someone ask Dean if he'd be willing to perform a PBA. Maybe send a camera crew along to film it live? Maybe Dr. Dean could show us why it's such a great thing?

42 posted on 01/28/2003 11:06:37 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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Ping
63 posted on 01/28/2003 12:27:30 PM PST by MattinNJ
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Next time you're in a rundown diner and the 17-year-old waitress is eight months pregnant, don't tut "What a tragedy" and point her to the nearest Planned Parenthood clinic. Leave her a large tip instead. She's doing the right thing, not just for her, but for all of us.

Well I dunno about THAT, but I'd tip her good anyhow...

71 posted on 01/28/2003 2:27:57 PM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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72 posted on 01/28/2003 2:32:40 PM PST by knighthawk
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Once you're as far down the death spiral as Italy is, it's hard to reverse. Most European races are going to be out of business in a couple more generations.

And want to bet that none of the Leftists will put the Italians or other European races on the "endangered species" list?
They wail and gnash their teeth if some species of toad is endangered, but if an entire ethnic group of humans is likely to disappear, they do all they can to hasten the disappearance.

73 posted on 01/28/2003 5:31:11 PM PST by speekinout
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Bump.
76 posted on 01/29/2003 4:55:40 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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