When the Bad Guy is Black

Larry Elder & Associates ^ | 1/12/03 | Larry Elder

[demosthenes the elder]

my experience has been closely (but not exactly) similar to yours.

[demosthenes the elder]

taglines... *sigh*

[Hodar]

It's true, they don't "hate" minorities, they just don't want them "intruding" on their way of life.

You can make that same statement about just about anyone. My point is that I (personally) have lived in SDak, Ark, Tx (Austin and Houston areas), Washington and Nebraska. I have not met a man who hated minorities. Apathetic, yes; hated - no. I have encountered more Blacks who HATE whites than I can begin to count. This is from MY life experiences, your mileage may vary..... :-D

[demosthenes the elder]

very well put.

[kabar]

Hate crime laws stiffen the penalty for committing a crime, if the perpetrator's motivation is based upon hatred towards the victim's race.

* In a 1992 murder case, the Supreme Court ruled that a white man’s membership in the Aryan Brotherhood could not be considered with regards to invoking the death penalty.

* In a 1983 murder case, the Supreme Court ruled that a black man’s membership in the Black Liberation Army could be considered with regards to invoking the death penalty.

* 1994 statistics:
Number of violent crimes committed by whites against blacks: 135,400 Number of violent crimes committed by blacks against whites: 1,140,700.


Number of whites charged with anti-black hate crimes: 2,336 Number of blacks charged with anti-white hate crimes: 718


* During 1995, there were 360 murders, 292 rapes, and 7,228 assaults reported in Washington D.C. Out of these, six were classified as hate crimes. (150)

* In 1997, 636 people in the United States were charged with committing hate crimes against Hispanics. (149)

* The Clinton administration FBI recorded no hate crimes committed by Hispanics, because they classified all Hispanic perpetrators as whites. With regard to Hispanics, the FBI classified attackers and victims in this manner:
-When a white attacked a Hispanic, the attacker was classified as white and the victim as Hispanic.

-When a Hispanic attacked a white, the attacker was classified as white.

-When a Hispanic attacked a black, the attacker was classified as white.

-When a Hispanic attacked a Hispanic, both attacker and victim were classified as white. (149)

[CaptainJustice]

This minority coddling sure doesnt help minorities. MLK always talked about judging a man because of his character not his skin. The liberals now judge by skin first, character DEAD LAST.

we're certainly not helping minorities assimilate when we tell them that they are way more special than majorities. We tell minorities that killing them is way worse than killing a white male protestant. They are allowed to do whatever they want and us evil WASPs have to learn to "understand their diversity". Last time I checked, my dollar bill says E Pluribus Unum. From the many, one. We are ONE america, ONE country, ONE nation under God.

Unfortunately, demanding a color-blind society is as bad as demanding an all white society anymore. When did equality become bigotry??

[yankeedame]

It's true, they don't "hate" minorities, they just don't want them "intruding" on their way of life.

Perhaps it's not the color of these people, it's the class.

[antaresequity]

I know this...each and everytime I hear a white [I am white] call African Americans niggers, or someother racial slur...I jump down their throat and let them know that is not tolerated.

I wonder how many Black People condemn their own when racial slurs and threats are made against whites? Maybe I am a racist...cause I would bet hardly ever.

[babaloo999]

You are correct. I don't think there's any who would prefer a gutter snipe who just won the lottery over, say, a black doctor as their next door neighbor.
I just got carried away and mentioned some of the nastier attitudes I've run across.

[Ciexyz]

I'm from the Pittsburgh PA area where this case occurred, and I can testify to the fact that when news of this black man's attacks occurred, people were traumatized. Everyone who had relatives in the Wilkinsburg area (Pittsburgh zip code 15221), was on the phone trying to determine if their loved ones were okay. This nutcase shot one guy sitting in his car in line at a Burger King, another was a former priest who did volunteer work in the mixed-race Wilkinsburg area.

Details came out within several hours that the attacks might have been racially motivated. Both of the main Pittsburgh newspapers (one of which was liberal, one conservative) reported the remarks made by Taylor, that he hated whites, that he bypassed one black woman saying something to the effect that he wouldn't hurt her because she's black. The woman reported this to police and it was reported in the papers and on the news.

Therefore the public knew early on that this was a case that a hate-filled black man had purposely targeted whites. The black people at my place of employment spoke about their sorrow for the victims. Whites and blacks watched the newscasts together in the breakrooms and everyone was shocked. People were shaking their heads.

The police early on made public announcements that they would review this case to see if it could be classified a hate crime. And this was a consideration when Taylor was brought to trial. He was convicted and sentenced to death. He's now sitting on death row, just like another racist individual named Baumhammers who that same year, shot and specifically targeted minorities, killing a Jewish woman, a black man in a karate studio, and at least two Asians. I can't remember if the death toll was four or five, but there was at least one other Asian who was permanently paralyzed.

Both cases were specifically treated and prosecuted as hate crimes as well as murder crimes. The prosecutors were clear in their statements about this.

The press publicized these statements and the general feeling in the community was that if you prosecute Baumhammers for a hate crime, you should also do it for Taylor -- and vice versa.

Taylor according to reports suffered from intense hatred of whites and even kept a diary to that effect. Baumhammers was a failed lawyer who had ceased practicing. Both men had a history of severe emotional problems.

[spintreebob]

Please don't get bogged down in arguing from their pre-suppositions.

Aren't almost all murders out of hate? If they were out of fear, it would be self-defense, or some type of charge short of murder. The mistake is in saying that one type of hate/motivation is different than another type of hate/motivation. Here in Illinois, if I hate cheesehead Packer backers and murder out of that hate, that hate is obviously as equally reprehensible as hating over race, religion, etc.

All murder out of hate is wrong. To make some murder out of hate more wrong makes some murder out of hate less wrong....and hence not so bad...and almost excusable. EG John Wayne Gacy murdered. But at least he "loved" the young boys before he murdered them. And it was not racial or religious. And since Gacy was gay, his actions couldn't have been like the Wyoming case. So his murders were not as bad as Richard Speck's...who hated women?

The whole concept of "hate crimes" is an absurd distinction.

[CaptainJustice]

>>The whole concept of "hate crimes" is an absurd distinction. <<

Amen to that. Since when does Why someone killed another human being make a difference? If I kill a guy because he's black, or fat, or short, or he stutters and snores, or because I'm feeling gassy, we still have a DEAD HUMAN BEING! A life is a life. Black or white, asian or latino, we're all human beings.