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Great VoidInexplicable Hole in Lake Defies Nature; Town Welcomes Notoriety
ABC ^ | Jan 19, 2003 | Barbara Pinto

Posted on 01/20/2003 6:04:36 PM PST by gitmo

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To: Nick Danger
Unless the aliens have set up a secret base IN the spetic system. That often causes the back-up.
21 posted on 01/20/2003 7:22:22 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is immoral.)
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To: gitmo
The following is reported by the Joe Soucheray, host of the afternoon radio program, and Curmudgeonly "Mayor of Garage Logic", KSTP, AM 1500 Radio,

"What's happening up there is called focus recharge,'' the Lake Detective said.

"Put that in civilian language, please.''

"We have had a lot of rain in the last two years in the summer and fall,'' McComas said. "The groundwater has to go someplace. It isn't evaporating when the grass and trees go dormant, and there hasn't been a deep frost. The ground water finds its way to lakes and streams and rivers. And because ground water is always about 55 degrees, it enters the lake, rises to the surface and melts the ice.''

"But the surface freezes over.''

"The water squirts along in surges,'' the Lake Detective said. "The surge stops and the water freezes. The surge starts again, and the hole opens up. This theory is especially credible given the amount of rain the last two years and why there hasn't been a hole in, say, the previous 60 years or so. This is happening to a lot of lakes around the state this year.''

"There have been reports of a red haze over the hole.''

"That would indicate iron dissolved in the groundwater,'' the Lake Detective said.

"But the divers injected dye to discover hidden springs.''

"Well dye is not a bad idea,'' the Lake Detective said, "but one flip of the flipper, and the dye is dispersed.''

As I say, this guy has never been stumped. You can go to Canada or Europe if you want and get somebody else to sound off about North Long Lake, but I am going with McComas, Minnesota's Lake Detective."
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/columnists/joe_soucheray/4912151.htm
22 posted on 01/20/2003 7:42:36 PM PST by discipler
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To: BenLurkin
Arrgh! He's horrible. Clear Channel d/b/a Premiere kills another good piece of entertainment with that lamer.

OMG! Where are all the people who march to some unknown drummer going to get air time?

The show formerly known as Art Bell can't survive with sNoory's used car salesman style. I find even his reading of commercials offensive.

Now, I can't even depend on Art Bell to find some guest that can attempt to spin a good story on some water not freezing...

Wait! I don't have to lose sleep over it! I'll just put sNoory on to get to sleep!

23 posted on 01/20/2003 7:50:29 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: perfect stranger
Dean Martin rolls in his grave every time some trendy moron calls a Vodka and fruit juice drink some type of Martini. For the record, a Martini is chilled Gin or Vodka with an olive in the glass as flavor after you forget to add Vermouth.

Ain't that the damn truth? These days, anything served in a v-shaped glass is called a "martini." Bars find they can get away with adding a buck or two to the price of some vile concoction just by calling it a "martini," such is the panache of the name these days. Sour apple "martinis," Mexican "martinis" (don't ask), and as God is my witness, chocolate "martinis" -- the mind reels, and the stomach recoils.

Judge Robert Bork wrote a treatise on martinis in National Review several years back. He was even more restrictive than you in the definition of a martini. Vodka, to the Judge, was unacceptable. He also held the "martini on the rocks" in contempt; he would gaze upon what he referred to (as I recall) "a diluting mess," and mutter "oh, the horror."

I applaud Judge Bork's strict constructionism on the subject, but with one exception: he was (and presumably remains) a staunch advocate of the lemon twist, saying one should add an olive to the concoction only if one is "under the impression that a martini is some sort of salad." On this point, alas, the good judge and I part company.

24 posted on 01/20/2003 7:54:07 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (optional tag line, printed after my name)
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To: gitmo
"Come sip our Black Hole Martini and view the hole."


What is this, a porno site?
25 posted on 01/20/2003 8:00:16 PM PST by ricpic
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To: discipler
I'm with you. I've always been amazed by the Lake Detective. This guy is smarter than your average bear :)
26 posted on 01/20/2003 8:04:28 PM PST by terilyn
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To: gitmo
An antifreeze slick? I hate those.
27 posted on 01/20/2003 8:15:57 PM PST by Consort (Was Jimer.)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
I part ways with Bork here as well, however Bork's Treatise on the Martini I will search.
28 posted on 01/20/2003 8:33:07 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: Calvin Locke
Art was great. Sorry to see him go. Agreed that Noory is just filling air time.
29 posted on 01/20/2003 9:37:13 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is immoral.)
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To: perfect stranger
...Bork's Treatise on the Martini I will search.

I have looked on-line before without success; I don't believe it was archived by National Review. As I recall, it was one of a series of essays by various conservatives along the lines of "how to get over the election," the election in question being (I think) 1998's. One of these days, I'll get down to the public lie-berry and make myself a hard copy.

30 posted on 01/21/2003 5:34:00 AM PST by southernnorthcarolina (optional tag line, printed after my name)
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To: coder2
Please tell me which murders you are talking about -- I live less than a mile from this lake, so I'm really curious.

During the opening credits of the movie: "Fargo", a disclaimer states that Fargo's story is a "true story" based on an actual kidnapping and murder:

"THIS IS A TRUE STORY. The events depicted in this film took place in Minnesota in 1987. At the request of the survivors, the names have been changed. Out of respect for the dead, the rest has been told exactly as it occurred."

"Although the film is named Fargo, the location of the initial scene in North Dakota, most of the film's action is set in Minnesota (the towns of Brainerd and Minneapolis) and on the road to and from Fargo, during approximately a week of time in late January and early February. "

http://www.brainerddispatch.com/fargo/

31 posted on 01/21/2003 11:14:39 AM PST by waterstraat
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic; Dawntreader
Don't go near the water...
32 posted on 01/21/2003 11:19:42 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (HHD)
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To: Corin Stormhands; Dawntreader
Sort of an "inverse" Eye of Sauron?
33 posted on 01/21/2003 11:23:55 AM PST by rightwingreligiousfanatic (If you lived here...you'd be home now!)
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To: phasma proeliator
Went skinny dipping in that lake, 'nuff said.
34 posted on 01/21/2003 11:48:43 AM PST by da_toolman (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: da_toolman
yup... nuff said!

LOL! (you're on a role today man)

35 posted on 01/21/2003 11:51:40 AM PST by phasma proeliator (.... ah boogie woogie woogie woogie, ahhhhhhhh boogie woogie woogie woogie.. who's your daddy)
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To: phasma proeliator
Looks like an alien crop circle gone bad.

Dupa dupa dupa do, SPLASH!
36 posted on 01/21/2003 12:03:44 PM PST by da_toolman (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: da_toolman
I like the spring theory myself.... even though this was looked at - it was Minnesotans that looked at it.

Gotta work now... damn!
37 posted on 01/21/2003 12:05:47 PM PST by phasma proeliator (.... ah boogie woogie woogie woogie, ahhhhhhhh boogie woogie woogie woogie.. who's your daddy)
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To: da_toolman
Don't blame me dude
38 posted on 01/21/2003 12:07:00 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: waterstraat
From the brainerd dispatch web-site ----

Movie fans eager to see how Brainerd is depicted in the movie "Fargo" might want to keep in mind that there is a difference between "true" and "movie true."

Inquiries to Brainerd Police Chief Frank Ball and to The Brainerd Daily Dispatch began trickling in after the movie was released. Callers are asking whether the multiple murders depicted in the movie actually occurred there.

The Dispatch and Ball have fielded the question from newspapers and news organizations across the nation. For the record, the answer is "no."

"Fargo" co-producer Ethan Coen told The Dispatch that the murders in the movie did not occur in Brainerd or in Minnesota, but that they did occur.

Coen, whose movies with his brother Joel have featured offbeat and occasionally dark humor, was true to form when asked when and where the murders took place. "I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you," he said.

The source of the confusion appears to be a statement in the beginning of "Fargo" indicating that the story in the movie is true. Coen, while admitting that the statement could have been more clear, said the story was largely true.

"Most people don't care," Coen said about the precise location of the murders. "It doesn't claim to be a documentary."

Ball's quotes in a New York Times article - in which he stressed that the story was not true and that Brainerd was an upscale, professional and beautiful place - prompted Coen to fax a letter to him.

Ball described the missive as a "nasty letter" in which Coen criticized his comments.

In the note, which Coen says was intended to be tongue-in-cheek, the former St. Louis Park resident expressed disappointment that Ball would take the side of the New York press and impugn the accuracy of the movie without having seen it.

The letter, Ball said, mentioned the obvious point that he is not a woman and not pregnant, as the police chief was portrayed in the film. The note mentioned the film's murders and noted that while accurate reporting of such facts is part of Ball's job it is not part of Coen's.

Ball said Coen also took a shot at the city's rather unattractive logo, offering to let the city use the one designed for the movie.

Ball did not reply to the letter.

Coen said Brainerd was chosen for the film because of the city's connection to Paul Bunyan lore. A Paul Bunyan statue is featured prominently in the film.

----- end of excerpt

So wait a minute --- here we have the coen brothers admitting (see bold above) that the murders didn't even take place in Minnesota, but according to your post, the opening credits say that it did take place in Minnesota ???

Hmmm --- sounds like the "truth" from a typical hollyweird liberal... Heck, anything to make money, right ???

39 posted on 01/21/2003 12:45:03 PM PST by coder2
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To: discipler
I've heard this theory --- but actually the lake levels dropped quite a bit during the latter part of summer, and the level isn't as high as some thought...

And anyone who says that there isn't a deep frost up here, has no clue what they are talking about --- with little snow cover, the frost levels are deeper than normal. This area has had cold temps (heck 25 below predicted for tonight), and most of the lakes around here have about 2 feet of ice ...

Usually when we got alot of snow early on in the winter, that's when the frost line is more shallow --- the snow insulates the ground. A few years back, when we had quite a bit of snow in November, the builders loved it --- because the ground was easier to work with --- this year, the ground is frozen solid.

40 posted on 01/21/2003 12:54:34 PM PST by coder2
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