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ABORTION MAP OF THE U.S.
Christian Patriots For Life ^

Posted on 01/20/2003 2:15:04 PM PST by cpforlife.org

THE ABORTED STATES OF AMERICA

The map above has 17 states blacked out. The population of these states is equal to the 42,000,000+ reported "legal" surgical abortions since 1973. Perhaps this visual perspective helps one to grasp the number of people that are gone, dead—robbed of their God given, constitutional rights to life and liberty.

Each time a person is aborted and robbed of their rights; our rights and very lives become less secure. How many more innocent people will have to suffer horrible painful deaths before the nation accepts the truth that with abortion, we are destroying our country and our future.

Please go to our Pro-Life Education Page , to learn how you can help end this tragedy.


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To: jwalsh07
It's good Don because it's an indication that even folk like the SON recognise that the unborn have a right to life.

All it is saying that certain ones have a right to life. For viable, it is easy to substitute any number of qualifiers:

Satisfying, productive, painless...

I understand how one might look at such an admission as hopeful. I find it distracting for the real question at hand.

Cordially.

61 posted on 01/20/2003 5:06:35 PM PST by don-o
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To: don-o
Don....don't ya know when a woman wants the child it's her un-born baby....when she doesn't want it, it's a fetus.....just a mass of tissue with a beating heart.
62 posted on 01/20/2003 5:08:47 PM PST by mystery-ak (Democrats...Ihr seid verfluchte hunde!)
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To: don-o
No problem. I like hardcore. Every unit needs them.
63 posted on 01/20/2003 5:09:17 PM PST by jwalsh07 (March for Life in DC ,1/22/03.)
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To: cpforlife.org
The enormity of this crime gainst the most innocent, and helpless is beyond comprehension. Yet it is business as usual in the USA. This is very scary, this country, I'm afraid will be held to account in the very near future. Perhaps 9.11.01 was just the overture of the music we will have to face soon.
64 posted on 01/20/2003 5:14:23 PM PST by desertcry
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To: Sirloin
"Well, to be fair, these are pretty horrible states. Not a terrible loss!"

I was born and raised in one of those states -- hope to return to one of those places to live before I die. You may think those states are terrible -- keep passing on the lie -- less competition for me when I go back.

That abortion is a solution is a lie, too. Abortion = murder and misery and would not exist if it weren't for the $$$$ is puts into the pockets of those who profit from it.

65 posted on 01/20/2003 5:17:56 PM PST by EverOnward
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To: jwalsh07
No problem. I like hardcore. Every unit needs them.

Let us hope and continue to pray that God would bless our multi-facted approaches with a decline and ultimate end to this silent holocaust.

Frankly, I despair, short of a scenario that makes 9/11 look like a tea party.

Too many folks like the Servant of 9 (whatevers) - just fail to see how the balances are weighed out. No empire in history has done what this one has. Thing is - so much good, along side so much evil. Our run has been fairly short, compared to Egypt, Rome, Babylon. Clock is ticking.

66 posted on 01/20/2003 5:26:07 PM PST by don-o
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To: don-o
Qualifiers?... Indeed! That is the essence of choice. Arguing over the qualifiers plays into the hands of those still stuck looking for the exception clause that is non-existent for the real issue is humanity, when will arbitrary qualifiers be unacceptable because the truth that at conception humanity of an individual begins.

Setting magic thinking aside (the thinking that postulates individual human existence --as a person-- begins at some later stage following conception, perhaps late in gestational existence), we get a clearer picture of the scientific truth: every individual human being alive today had the beginning of their individual human existence at their unique conception; life support for their individual human existence was given via a womb, then a life supporting soul(s) in order to make it through cribhood, toddlerhood, etc., stages of their continuous existence. The individual reality of an individual begins at conception. That is scientific fact, though some try to argue that since twinning may occur early in life, there must not have been an individual present yet --which is of course an absurd notion 'akin' to saying a woman has no individual existence since she may conceive in her womb a unique separate individual.

The most absurd qualifier is also the most demonically subtle : conception doesn't begin an individual human life because ... add any notion desired. There is no 'because' : taking just the twinning argument, if a first individual life hasn't begun then a second individual life couldn't begin at twinning, thus the fall-back to magic thinking that individual human life must begin at some later stage, a stage these qualifier champions never seem to define, I might add.

67 posted on 01/20/2003 5:29:23 PM PST by MHGinTN (Manama na, meep meep maneemie, manama na, meep mee menie ...)
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To: cpforlife.org
There's an old statement: "There's lies, damn lies, and statistics."

Not to say there haven't been lots of abortions since 1970 (there have been way too many) - but - on what basis where these statistics compiled? The US Department of Abortions? No.

There is no accurate number. And not all abortions are the same. Consider - about 1/3 of all women miscarry for any given pregnancy. Commonly, when this occurs, the doctor recommends the woman go for a "D & C" (dilatation and curettage.) It can be used as a diagnostic tool, to clean the uterus after a miscarriage and as a form of abortion. Problem. D&C counts toward the abortion statistics. So - how many "abortions" are not abortions, but clean up after a natural miscarriage? Answer - nobody friggen KNOWS! But we do know the "abortion" statistics are "contaminated" by D&C statistics counting as abortions when many of these are post-miscarriage procedures.

68 posted on 01/20/2003 5:33:46 PM PST by dark_lord (Reminds me of a little black book I own titled "How to Lie with Statistics".)
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To: dark_lord
Consider - about 1/3 of all women miscarry for any given pregnancy. Support that with a proof source. I'll wait ...
69 posted on 01/20/2003 5:36:49 PM PST by MHGinTN (Manama na, meep meep maneemie, manama na, meep mee menie ...)
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To: Servant of the Nine; All

VictoryWon

S.O.N,

This is about the age most surgical abortions occur, the child feels terrible pain! Their nervous system and pain receptors are far more sensitive than an adults.

From the moment of conception you are a person with potential-- NOT a potential person. Maybe HIPPOCRATES, who lived 400 years B.C. could understand this simple truth when he included in his Oath: “I will give no deadly medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest any such counsel; and in like manner I will not give a woman a pessary to produce abortion. WITH PURITY AND WITH HOLINESS I will pass my life and practice my Art.”

70 posted on 01/20/2003 5:47:02 PM PST by cpforlife.org
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To: jwalsh07
Here's an interesting notion that occurred to me while discussing the uniqueness of a newly conceived individual human life.

It is argued by scientists wishing to exploit embryonic life that the embryo is not yet an individual human life worthy of protection. These same scientists want to remove the nuclear material from an ovum (the 23 chromosomal material of a haploid cell) and replace it with the 46 chromosome nuclear material of an adult in need of 'body parts' to treat a disease state. The magic thinking goes that the embryo is not yet an individual human life so it can be harvested with impunity. The dupicity of this argument resides in the nature of the target of the scientists, the uniquely matched stem cells of the cloned life; were the stem cells not existent in an individual human life of the embryo, they wouldn't be of use for harvesting! The embryo MUST be a human life and MUST be uniquely tissue matched to the patient to be treated. The very act of targeting an embryo so conceived supports the fact that the scientists know they are conceiving a unique individual human life else they wouldn't target that individual life for harvesting to treat a second individual human life found to be in need of treatment at a later stage in individual human existence.

The same reasoning may be applied to the fetal tissue harvesting industry: the fetus must be an individual human life else the scientists wouldn't be able to utilize the tissues in human application.

71 posted on 01/20/2003 5:54:22 PM PST by MHGinTN (Manama na, meep meep maneemie, manama na, meep mee menie ...)
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To: cpforlife.org; jwalsh07; Remedy; toenail; firebrand
FYI

http://www.staugustine.net/backtothedrawingboard.html

http://www.staugustine.net/

"Never before in the history of the pro-life movement have scholars, statesmen, judges, activists and others combined their insights to provide a comprehensive look at the movement's history and its future. Yet, that is exactly what this book does. Back to the Drawing Board: The Future of the Pro-Life Movement is a remarkable collection of essays by distinguished professionals and is must reading for anyone seeking to understand the pro-life movement, its successes, failures, and the challenges it faces as it enters the 21st century."

- Gary L. Bauer, President, Campaign for Working Families
"A very welcome review of a vitally important mission..."
- Dr. Laura Schlessinger, Author, The Ten Commandments

"The courageous tenacity of the pro-life movement has been the great untold story of American public life for three decades. This timely and important book demonstrates that the pro-life movement - which will be the great civil rights movement of twenty-first century America - has the courage to be self-critical as well as the courage to be tenacious."

- George Weigel, Senior Fellow, Ethics & Public Policy Center, and
Author, Witness to Hope: The Biography of Pope John Paul II

"This book is the pro-life roundtable of scholars you always wanted to attend! . . . It asks the hard questions of the pro-lifemovement . . . Bravo to Wagner and all her contributors."
- Helen Alvare, Professor of Law, Columbus School of Law at the Catholic University of America

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72 posted on 01/20/2003 5:57:19 PM PST by Coleus (RU 486 Kills Babies)
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The same reasoning may be applied to the fetal tissue harvesting industry: the fetus must be an individual human life else the scientists wouldn't be able to utilize the tissues in human application. And one last niggling fact: the fetal tissue harvested must be 'tissue matched' (thus confirming the individual human status of the 'donor' human life) before using it on an alive human individual in order to prevent tissue rejection and possible death of the second individual human.
73 posted on 01/20/2003 5:57:58 PM PST by MHGinTN (Manama na, meep meep maneemie, manama na, meep mee menie ...)
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To: dark_lord
Because you are ignorant of the facts doesn't mean somebody is cooking the books. There have been over 40 million "elective" abortions since Roe.

There have been many miscarriages as well. I watched my daughter and my wife suffer the same. Nobody will ever convince me that their grief was not a Mother's grief for a lost baby. Ever.

74 posted on 01/20/2003 5:59:31 PM PST by jwalsh07 (March for Life in DC ,1/22/03.)
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To: cpforlife.org; Servant of the Nine; firebrand
Freeper Remedy does his homework--Life begins at Conception.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/824113/posts?page=49#49

Are unborn children human beings? Are they persons? No doubt about it. The following essays argue the pro-life case...

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/SFL/dnirving_--_human_beginning.htm

When Do Human Beings Begin? -- by Dianne N. Irving, Ph.D. In this essay, former NIH bench research biochemist Dianne Irving demonstrates the scientific fact that the lives of human beings--and human persons--begin at conception.
Personhood Begins At Conception

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/SFL/peter_kreeft_--_personhood_begins_at_conception.htm

-- by Peter Kreeft, Ph.D. Professor Kreeft explains what exactly a "person" is and why the various philosophical positions which deny that the unborn child is a person are themselves inadequate.

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/SFL/francis_beckwith_--.htm

Is the Unborn Less Than Human? -- by Francis J. Beckwith, Ph.D. In this essay, Dr. Beckwith lays out the scientific facts surrounding human development and explains why it does not make sense to argue that a human being is created at implantation, quickening, or birth.

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/SFL/francis_beckwith2_--_is_the_unborn_less_than_human.htm

When Does a Human Become a Person? -- by Francis J. Beckwith, Ph.D. Continuing the previous essay, Dr. Beckwith demonstrates why other functional criteria given for personhood--such as sentience, brain development, and viability--are inadequate. He then refutes the "gradualist" position, which incorrectly asserts that the unborn becomes more and more human as the pregnancy progresses. Finally, he discusses the positions of various abortion and infanticide advocates like James Rachels, Mary Wollenkott, and Michael Tooley.

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/SFL/francis_beckwith_004.htm


Does Life Begin At Implantation? -- by Francis J. Beckwith, Ph.D. In this essay, Dr. Beckwith addresses the phenomena of monozygotic twinning, hydatiform moles, choriocarcinoma, blighted ova, cloning, and fertilization wastage. He then shows how these phenomena fail to disprove the position that human life begins at conception.

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/SFL/dnirvinglarger.htm

Scientific and Philosophical Expertise: An Evaluation of the Arguments on Personhood -- by Dianne N. Irving, Ph.D. In this essay, biochemist Dianne Irving argues that positions which assert that early human embryos are not persons are based on inadequate philosophical principles and faulty scientific data.

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/SFL/ThomistFertilization.htm

The Human Rational Soul in the Early Embryo -- by Stephen Heaney, Ph.D. In this essay, Professor Heaney discusses the various theories of "ensoulment" that permeate philosophical (and theological) discussions on abortion.

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/SFL/scott_sullivan.htm

A Survey of Arguments for Immediate versus Delayed Animation -- by Scott Sullivan. In this essay, Thomist Philosopher Scott Sullivan critically analyzes the theory of mediate animation.


http://www.vanderbilt.edu/SFL/lejeune_testimony.htm
The Tiniest Humans -- an interview with the renowned geneticist Jerome Lejeune and the father of modern embryology, Sir Albert William Liley
75 posted on 01/20/2003 6:03:06 PM PST by Coleus (RU 486 Kills Babies)
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To: All
What abortion looks like.

Fr. Frank Pavone says: "America Will Not Reject Abortion Until America Sees Abortion."

If you want to know the truth about abortion and SEE what these persons (American Citizens!) went through, click http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/abortionimages/index.htm

"Out of all the video games I have played and all the movies I have ever seen, I have never seen anything more violent than the pictures of these aborted babies." Chris Daly Age: 19 Orlando, Florida

76 posted on 01/20/2003 6:04:36 PM PST by cpforlife.org
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To: cpforlife.org
A picture is worth a thousand words and this makes a heck of an impact.
77 posted on 01/20/2003 6:08:18 PM PST by tiki
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To: Servant of the Nine
"If they were "persons" they wouldn be aborted."

The unborn are little people. People murder the unborn. Be glad your mother didn't abort you or maybe then you'd be singing a different song.

"and you can draw the same map for automobile fatalities."

Your logic totally escapes me. How do you equate unborn people with born people killed in auto accidents. And of course these auto accidents are typically unintentional whereas in the case of an abortion they are planned and carried out by appointment. Maybe you need to sober up or something before you post and before you get an unplaeasant reputation.

78 posted on 01/20/2003 6:09:28 PM PST by nmh
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To: cpforlife.org
One aborted child is a tragedy.

40 million plus is a holocaust of mindboggling proportions.

Whenever possible, I have chosen to call it what it truly is:

"The Abortion Holocaust".

Thank you for illustrating it once again.

79 posted on 01/20/2003 6:10:11 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Servant of the Nine
"Both numbers are trivial in US death statistics."

What a pity ... how you trivilize death either by auto accident or planned abortion. If no one comes to your funeral or cares about you; don't be surprised. You are a cold one.

80 posted on 01/20/2003 6:12:36 PM PST by nmh
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