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LIVE THREAD: PATRIOTS RALLY FOR AMERICA III (As Not Seen on C-SPAN)
The Field ^ | Friends of DC Chapter -- That's YOU!

Posted on 01/18/2003 4:56:09 AM PST by FreeTheHostages

DC Patriots Rally Counterprotest begins at 9 a.m. today We have a Freeper volunteer -- Pippin -- who will take reports live from the field and post them on Free Republic for us. So look to this thread for live updates of what is going on in DC. The updates should start around 9 a.m.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: answer; benny; dc; dcchapter; infinatefreep; washingtondc
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To: Mo1
I would suggest getting one of those idiots to sing the baby back to sleep but I'm afriad they'd only lecture you in how "evil" you were in not aborting the child. (SICKOS!)
81 posted on 01/18/2003 6:50:40 AM PST by Pippin (God Bless the DC CHAPTER and MOVE OUT!)
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To: OXENinFLA
Well Medea Benjamin mentioned that she is going to go over to Iraq to help the Iraqi women

Any chance she is leaving for there soon??
82 posted on 01/18/2003 6:51:27 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the DC Chapter at the Patriots Rally III on 1/18/03)
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To: Timesink
"Has anyone TOLD THEM the DC Freepers were going to be there? They're not mind readers, they're morning chatters."

FOX lurks at FR all the time.
They know, but as usual, refuse to cover this side of their so called "fair and balanced" side.
When did anyone ever see FOX show FReeprs FReeping, even when they were delivered notice ahead of time.
Rupert Murdoch is no friend of America.
83 posted on 01/18/2003 6:52:00 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (FOX is no better than any of the rest!)
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To: Timesink
Good idea, this one from me.

friends@foxnews.com
Hey, how about some of the Pro-US demonstrator coverage in DC?
MOVE OUT is hosting a Pro-USA rally, near the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial. They are easy to spot, they are the ones not burning US flags. Maybe a little Fair & Balanced color commentary from them?

84 posted on 01/18/2003 6:52:18 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Saddam expected to launch attack of 10,000 empty warheads upon our Nation's Capitol.)
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To: FreeTheHostages
Passing on E-mail

USAF 4 Star Speaks Out

For those of you who don't know who General Hawley is, he is a newly-retired 4-star General who commanded the U.S. Air Force Air Combat Command.

He recently delivered this speech, now that he's retired and no longer restricted to being politically correct, at the Air Force Association Annual Meeting.

"Since the attack, I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such incredible and surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them too. Here they are:

1) "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is relative."

Listen carefully: We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with me now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't mean, "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded guy on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our country has, with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will be the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in history. If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what happens. In about half a day, the entire world would be a ghost town, and the United States would look like one giant line to see "The Producers.

2) "Violence only leads to more violence."

This one is so stupid you usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say it. Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already: Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence. Limp, panicky, half-measures lead to more violence. However, complete, fully thought-through, professional, well-executed violence never leads to more violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead. That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not "reeducated," not "nurtured back into the bosom of love." DEAD.

D-E --Well, you get the idea.

3) "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community has failed us."

For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for not protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter appointee Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy satellites. "After all," they reasoned, "you can see a license plate from 200 miles away." This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a license plate. Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans. Finding humans is not possible with satellites.

You have to use other humans. When we bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who looks like Gary Busey in a Spring Break'93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a coffee shop in Kabul and say "Hiya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to meet that bin Laden fella. "Well, you can, but all you'd be doing is giving the bad guys a story they'l be telling for years.

4) "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're angry at us."

Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was just a desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer than Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor helpless people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to stay in power. Mohammed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those planes into the killing grounds (I'm sorry, one of the "alleged hijackers," according to CNN-they stopped using the word "terrorist," you know), is > the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew this, too.

In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who grabbed any cause they could think of to get out of their final papers and spend more time drinking. At least, that was my excuse. It's the same today. Take the Anti-Global-Warming (or is it World Trade? Oh-who-knows-what-the-hell -they-want demonstrators) They all charged their black outfits and plane tickets on dad's credit card before driving to the airport in their SUV's.

5) "Any profiling is racial profiling."

Who's killing us here, the Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin Laden family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff, never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm crushed. I think we're all crushed. Please come back. With a cherry on top? Why don't they just change their names, anyway? It's happened in the past. Think about it.

How many Adolfs do you run into these days? Shortly after that, I remember watching TV with my jaw on the floor as a vernment official actually said, "That little old grandmother from Sioux City could be carrying something." Okay, how about this: No, she couldn't. It would never be the grandmother from Sioux City. Is it even possible? What are the odds? Winning a hundred Powerball lotteries in a row? A thousand? A million?

And now a Secret Service guy has been tossed off a plane and we're all supposed to cry about it because he's an Arab? Didn't it have the tiniest bit to do with the fact that he filled out his forms incorrectly- - three times? And then left an Arab history book on his seat as he strolled off the plane? And came back? Armed? Let's please all stop singing "We Are the World" for a minute and think practically. I don't want to be sitting on the floor in the back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt. Rushmore and turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say, "Well, at least we didn't offend them."

SO HERE'S what I resolve for the New Year: Never to forget our murdered brothers and sisters. Never to let the relativists and bleeding-heart liberals get away with their immoral thinking. After all, no matter what your daughter's political science professor says, we didn't start this. Have you seen that bumper sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says, "You First. No More Pearl Harbors."

Dick Hawley

85 posted on 01/18/2003 6:52:47 AM PST by lonestar
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To: All
Temperature is climbing up in DC... Channel 4 just reported it is 16 degrees and may reach 24 to 26 later in the day. Is there much wind down where the Patriots are?
86 posted on 01/18/2003 6:52:47 AM PST by OReilly
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To: Pippin
When you talk to FreeTheHostages .. Say Hi for me
87 posted on 01/18/2003 6:52:55 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the DC Chapter at the Patriots Rally III on 1/18/03)
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To: OXENinFLA
They're afriad of people getting wise to the left and insisting on the truth. They like the people to remain in ignorance of the left's real agenda.
88 posted on 01/18/2003 6:53:00 AM PST by Pippin (God Bless the DC CHAPTER and MOVE OUT!)
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To: OXENinFLA
Why don't you and all you kum-ba-ya liberals out there accusing the president of genocide, why don't you go to Iraq?" Fox News' commentator and Hannity and Colmes host Shawn Hannity recently asked members of the Green Party, which is against the war. "And why don't you protest the 1.5 million people slaughtered by this man? I have pictures of dead babies that he used chemical weapons on. Why don't you go protest him?"


This is on www.foxnews.com right now. Most of the e-mail addresses are "name"@foxnews.com
I think a phone call into one of their shows may be better. I do not have a cable modem or I would call.
89 posted on 01/18/2003 6:53:53 AM PST by netmilsmom (Partly cloudy because I'm a mom)
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To: Mo1
Larry Holmes on C-Span: "The enlisted men are against this war."

These fools just make stuff up as they go along.

90 posted on 01/18/2003 6:54:07 AM PST by don-o
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To: stlrocket
oh my gawd. great pic!
91 posted on 01/18/2003 6:54:34 AM PST by FoxGirl
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To: don-o
That's why I don't watch C-SPAN except when they are airing one of President Bush's speaches.

But I'm surprised at FOX NEWs not mentioning the Patriot's Rally.

92 posted on 01/18/2003 6:55:16 AM PST by Pippin (God Bless the DC CHAPTER and MOVE OUT!)
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To: netmilsmom
Trueblackman was on Hannity & Colmes the other night. I'm sure he mentioned it.....

I don't know why people believe that news organziations are of a single hive mentality, because they're not. They're as dysfunctional as the offices everyone else works in. Do you really think the people that have to wake up at 4 am on Saturday morning to do F&F are studiously monitoring every second of FNC programming for the entire preceding week? They're not. More than likely they're sleeping. Unless someone from FR specifically contacted a Fox & Friends Weekend producer and let him/her know about our counterprotests and that we'd appreciate some coverage, we have no reason to expect them to know about it.

93 posted on 01/18/2003 6:56:16 AM PST by Timesink (Poodle: The Other White Meat)
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To: don-o
These fools just make stuff up as they go along.

BINGO!!

They are to busy listening to themselves talk they don't hear what the rest of the country is saying

94 posted on 01/18/2003 6:56:20 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the DC Chapter at the Patriots Rally III on 1/18/03)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
These "peace" protestors give me a royal pain. Where were they when Clinton was bombing all over the world?

Making good use of their kneepads!

95 posted on 01/18/2003 6:57:43 AM PST by Timesink (Poodle: The Other White Meat)
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To: Timesink
Good point!!! Sorry, I'm just an ignorant midwest mom who has the kids staring at the TV so I can Freep.
You seem to have some knowledge or connections. Can you give them a call?
96 posted on 01/18/2003 6:58:55 AM PST by netmilsmom (Partly cloudy because I'm a mom)
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To: OXENinFLA
Why is C-Span being so ONE -SIDED?????

I stopped watching over a year ago.

They let "Republicans" on the Republican line talk on and on about why they're no longer Republicans--and they can hardly read their notes.

Some of the callers couldn't spell C-SPAN and I was left wondering, "Who's paying these people to call in?"

97 posted on 01/18/2003 7:01:51 AM PST by lonestar
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To: don-o
*enlisted men are against this war*....did he mention who's Army?.....
98 posted on 01/18/2003 7:02:30 AM PST by mystery-ak (Democrats...Ihr seid verfluchte hunde!)
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To: soycd
Is C-SPAN paid for by our TAX dollars?

C-SPAN doesn't receive one cent of tax revenue. It is a private, nonprofit corporation that has no connection to the Federal Government. You do pay for it, though; they get their money the same way all other cable channels do: Charging the cable and satellite companies per-subscriber.

99 posted on 01/18/2003 7:02:59 AM PST by Timesink (Poodle: The Other White Meat)
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To: Timesink
Bump
100 posted on 01/18/2003 7:04:19 AM PST by OXENinFLA (Savage Nation...............Liberals Fear.)
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