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Fearing for lives, Jews in France flee
The Detroit News ^
| January 17 2003
| Jocelyn Gecker/AP
Posted on 01/17/2003 3:12:21 AM PST by knighthawk
Edited on 05/07/2004 7:09:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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PARIS -- Jewish parents tell their sons not to wear yarmulkes. A rabbi is stabbed. Elderly women are frisked before entering synagogues -- just in case. As the stresses of being Jewish in France multiply, some feel it safer to hide their religion. Others have decided the only solution is to pack up and leave -- more than twice as many as a year earlier, according to statistics by the Jewish Agency.
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TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; flee; france; french; israel; jacqueschirac; jews; judeophobia
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To: Southern Federalist
Bump your post!
France is the ancient enemy of Englishmen and English liberties; nothing changes.
To: sheik yerbouty
The Jihadist Saudi Borg Cube. That's always the thought I have when I see that idolator's box.
"You will be assimilated!"
"Resistance is futile!"
The parallels are many...for example, there is no reasoning with a BORG...you just have to kill it.
To: knighthawk
Later that day, Farhi was preparing for Sabbath services when the synagogue doorbell rang. As he opened the door, he says, an attacker in a motorcycle helmet lunged forward with a knife, shouted "God is great!" in Arabic and fled.Let the sobs try some of that bravo sierra down here in second ammendment country and see how long it takes our rednecks to solve this one.
To: Southern Federalist
Yes, the dirty little secret is that there were many, many French who did not think that liberal democracy was all that great. Thus, the 3rd Rebpulic was undermined from within from both the right and the left, and the center became far to weak to hold things up on its own.
The French, as people, hated the Germans, as people, of course -- and vise versa. But that was something that had very little to do with politics.
To: A2J
This time it's the sand-nazis who are the ones. It's time the French (and other Europeans) realize that when they are finished with the Jews, they are the next ones on their list.
To: rmvh
Jews are insular. We traditionally live in tight nit communities and have strict religious restrictions meant to curb interaction with non-Jews.
This creates distrust and fear.
Jews commonly traded across national boundaries and set up some of the first international banking systems based on the trust between Jewish communities. Isolationists adn anti-capitalists thus dislike Jews.
Finally there are very real anti-Jewish strains in both Christianity and Islam. Both religions are meant to supplant Judaism and include anti-Jewish texts and traditions.
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posted on
01/17/2003 3:11:32 PM PST
by
rmlew
To: rmlew
"Jews are insular. We traditionally live in tight nit communities and have strict religious restrictions meant to curb interaction with non-Jews."
Hmmm, seemed there were a lot of Jews in 1930s Europe who held Joe Stalin as their picture boy due to their socialistic politics. I don't see how they could be considered "insular", though I must agree that Jews do, for the most part, keep to themselves, as do most common oridinary people.
There is always a small minority group of vocal extremist from every culture, and whacko Islam with their 1 billion plus certainly provides the greatest numbers of idiots far exceeding Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, etc., etc., ad infinitum.
Of course, one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.
Case in point; The French Resistance and Socialist Jews who became part of it due to Joe Stalin's admonishment to resist the Nazis...before that they had little or no interest in fighting Hitler's JBTs.
An interesting French documentary about the Socialist Jews in the French Resistance called "Terrorists in retirement" was made for French TV, quickly banned, and re-released a couple of years ago (not to be shown on French TV though..lol).
It seems that de Gaulle threw these poor freedom fighters to the wolves to appease Gestapo/SS investigations, when it was clear that the battle had been won and that the Jews were no longer needed.
Needless to say, anyone who has any REAL experience with non-Judaic Europeans knows that, outside of England, antisemitism is a cultural norm.
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posted on
01/17/2003 3:46:22 PM PST
by
TaZ
(Amerika; Land of the sleaze, home of the knave...)
To: knighthawk; dennisw; TopQuark; Alouette; veronica; weikel; EU=4th Reich; BrooklynGOP; Jimmyclyde; ..
bttt...fyi ; )
68
posted on
01/17/2003 3:50:37 PM PST
by
TaZ
(Amerika; Land of the sleaze, home of the knave...)
To: rmlew
Jews are insular. We traditionally live in tight nit communities and have strict religious restrictions meant to curb interaction with non-Jews. This creates distrust and fear Im not jewish but generally I get along very well with them( the guys anyway).
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posted on
01/17/2003 3:57:19 PM PST
by
weikel
To: TaZ
Needless to say, anyone who has any REAL experience with non-Judaic Europeans knows that, outside of England, antisemitism is a cultural norm. I'd also submit that this is not true in the case of Italians or any of the Scandanavian states or the Netherlands. Before WWI it wasn't true of the Germans.
70
posted on
01/17/2003 4:01:01 PM PST
by
weikel
To: weikel
"I'd also submit that this is not true in the case of Italians or any of the Scandanavian states or the Netherlands. Before WWI it wasn't true of the Germans"
Well, maybe not a cultural norm in "the Scandanavian states or the Netherlands", but I beg to differ with you concerning the pre-WWI Italians and Germans.
FYI, if the German/Nazi Government hadn't been so rabidly antisemitic, they would of had the A-Bomb no later than 1943...
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posted on
01/17/2003 4:07:39 PM PST
by
TaZ
(Amerika; Land of the sleaze, home of the knave...)
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To: TaZ
Italy wasn't antisemitic after Mussolini fell and the Germans occupied the country the Italian population went to great lengths to protect the jews. Ill revise my assement of Germany the northern Protestant Germans weren't antisemitic before WWI( and even during the 3rd reich the nazi pogroms and SS roundups got little help from the population despite the constant anti semitic propaganda Austria was a diffrent story spontaneous anti semitic riots broke out the minute the Wehrmarcht marched in). Prussia was a very philo semitic society. Hitler was Austrian, Eichmann was Austrian, Heydrich and Himmler were Bavarians.
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01/17/2003 4:20:31 PM PST
by
weikel
To: rmvh
Is it really because people feel threatened by their religious theology?..That seems unlikely
Where exactly does the problem lie?
I think the word "envy" might have something to do with it.
And the word "ignorance".
First, a lot of non-Jews think the term "chosen people" mean that the Jews have sort of
egomania...on the contrary, the persecution throughout the millenia would argue that
the word "chosen" would more likely be translated "chosen to be tested" or
"chosen to show people can survive a lot of crap thrown at them".
And, despite often being pushed to the periphery of the societies they were trying to function
in, e.g., forbidden from certain profession...pushed into disliked professions
such as "usury" (know as "finance" today), they earn a lot of envy for surviving
and prospering despite having this sort of persecution.
Finally, some Jews got smart...hence the state of Israel.
This is all just the inexpert opinion of a conservative from a "cultural Christian" background.
In case it is airing on your PBS station, you might find the series "Heritage" about
the history of the Jews interesting.
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posted on
01/17/2003 4:24:15 PM PST
by
VOA
To: rmvh
Where exactly does the problem lie? Because on average Jews seem to be very good at making money and other peoples get jealous of that.
Kinda like how people hate America
To: A2J
It appears that France is still under Nazi occupation.Or, even more likely, Nazi is under France's occupation.
To: weikel
"Italy wasn't antisemitic after Mussolini fell and the Germans occupied the country the Italian population went to great lengths to protect the jews."
OK, granted that my opinion is just my opinion, but I feel that by the time Mussolini and his fascist JBTs were run out of town the Italian people had bigger boogeymen to worry about then the few Jews still left among them.
Here is an article that encapsulates my opinion.
"Holocaust and Genocide Studies"
"The Ambivalence of Italian Antisemitism: Fascism, Nationalism, and Racism in Trieste"
http://www3.oup.co.uk/holgen/current/160376.sgm.abs.html
Moreover, I believe that the great unwashed masses in Europe suffer from the same blind bigotry that Amerika has suffered from since its inception...which if you listen very carefully is still muttered under a lot of peoples breaths today as they go about their daily affairs here and abroad.
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posted on
01/17/2003 4:59:47 PM PST
by
TaZ
(Amerika; Land of the sleaze, home of the knave...)
To: traditionalist
It is doubly ironic, then, that many Jews are the forefront of the "diversity" movement, n'est ce pas?
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posted on
01/17/2003 8:22:24 PM PST
by
Artois
To: traditionalist
if they'll listen...sure,... many young Jews in the US are being converted(the Messianic Jewish movement)
To: rmvh
I can only suppose that the answer that you are looking for is that Jews are disgusting (perhaps an odour that only righteous people can detect?).
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