Fearing for lives, Jews in France flee

The Detroit News ^ | January 17 2003 | Jocelyn Gecker/AP

[knighthawk]

PARIS -- Jewish parents tell their sons not to wear yarmulkes. A rabbi is stabbed. Elderly women are frisked before entering synagogues -- just in case. As the stresses of being Jewish in France multiply, some feel it safer to hide their religion. Others have decided the only solution is to pack up and leave -- more than twice as many as a year earlier, according to statistics by the Jewish Agency.

[traditionalist]

Ironically the candidate for president who would do the most to protect Jews in France is the very same one reviled most by them: Le Pen.

[traditionalist]

No mention, for instance, of the French Ambassador to Britain calling Isreal "that sh---- little country" at a dinner party in England. No North African youth, he.

Anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism are not the same thing. Plus, did this Ambasador ever engage or incite in any anti-Jewish violence?

No mention, either, of the cartoon in the leftist French newspaper Liberation that, as an account in the July issue of Commentary put it, showed Prime Minister Sharon "standing next to a cross with a hammer and nails in his mouth. The caption: 'no Christmas for Arafat. But he is welcome on Easter.'" Liberation is not edited by North African youths, nor did the classical anti-Semitic image of the Jew as Christ-killer originate with North African youths.

And how many of the Liberation's editors engaged in violence against Jews? And how many of the readers of this magazine do you think would be moved by the image of the "Christ-killer," given that most Frenchmen are not believers?

100% of the incidents involve Moslems.

Most French Christians (or should I say post-Christians?) don't like Jews very much, but dislike and hatred are not the same thing. If historic French anti-Semitism were responsible for the present violence, why is it that these attacks only began after large waves of Moslem immigrants were let into France?

[traditionalist]

Christians are to pray for them and support them

Are we to preach the gospel to them?

[traditionalist]

Please tell me which popes exactly preached the killing of Jews.

[putupon]

Please tell me which popes exactly preached the killing of Jews.

The Pope that was in power @ the end of WWII and hid the Nazi war criminals escaping to South America for one. The Popes in office during the Spanish Inquisition.

The current Pope issued some kind official policy or statement a few years ago repudating past practices, did he not?

[traditionalist]

The Pope that was in power @ the end of WWII and hid the Nazi war criminals escaping to South America for one. The Popes in office during the Spanish Inquisition.

I see you need a history lesson. Pius XII, pope during WW2, was acknowledged by Jewish historians as responsible for saving 800,000 Jews. Israel honored him with the title of "righteous gentile." I have studied a lot about him, and I know of nothing about him assisting Nazi war criminals. This is the first I heard of it. If you have a source, I'd be interested in seeing it.

The Spanish inquisition did not target Jews, but heretics. To be a heretic you had to have been baptized a Christian.

The current Pope issued some kind official policy or statement a few years ago repudating past practices, did he not?

No. He apologized on behalf of Christians who, in the name of the Church, did unChristian things. He never apologized for any official Church policy.

[bert]

...Where exactly does the problem lie...

Dershowitz, Schumer, Eisner et al

[junta]

Sorry to say but the dogs of the Frankfurt School rabid as they are are now biting at everything good in the West or what remains of the West. Let us be honest here for decades we have heard about the Facist tendicies of whites and the faults of our civilization all in an effort to create a passive populace for the implementation of an egalitarian socialism. It worked so while Muslim firebrands target France's Jews the passive/aggressive French population at best is passive at worst they see this as just rewards for decades of hateful rhetoric or what they perceived as such. These attacks will get worse, but I don't think they will be apocolyptic, but more like the American racial and ethnic cleaning of our inner cities by angry minorities.

[bert]

Innocent VIII is a good candidate.

He was pretty hard on the jews and moors of Spain and burned those who wouldn't convert.

[rmvh]

Re your # 47... Dershowitz, Schumer, Eisner et al

Yes....but....There are just as many (if not more) totally self oriented and equally destructive people around who are not Jews....yet...the ethnic or religious group associated with them are not hated (perhaps Muslims excluded) ...

My question goes unanswered.

[putupon]

So who hid the escaping Nazis en route to South America in the Vatican and where does the Pope get the authority to speak for all Christians?

[firebrand]

You have to admit the writer of this editorial did make several valid points, about the Times and about the situation. Let's just say the Muslims are the poison ivy and France is the soil in which it grows (with the exception of the many in France who still have their heads on straight).

[Marysecretary]

It's not surprising. Jew-bashing is as popular now as it ever was and even moreso. If anyone is interested in helping the Jews get out of Russia before another holocaust, you can get in touch with the Fellowship of Christians and Jews organization. It costs $350 to get one person out of Russia (and perhaps other nations?) to Israel. Sounds like something worthwhile to me.

[Bella_Bru]

Are you hinting at an answer?

Afraid of being banned? If you think you have the answer, then please do share. This should be interesting coming from the poster who thinks there is an anti-Christian mafia on FR.

[dennisw]

Same crap, different day.