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Anti-War Protesters Threaten Vietnam Vets With Violence
Crosswalk.com ^ | 1/15/03 | Michael L. Betsch

Posted on 01/15/2003 5:50:50 AM PST by Doctor Raoul


Anti-War Protesters Threaten Vietnam Vets With Violence
Michael L. Betsch
Staff Writer

(CNSNews.com) - Two generations of Americans will collide in Washington, D.C., on Saturday when a coalition of Vietnam veterans counter-protests thousands of anti-war protesters, many of whom were born years after Saigon fell to the Communists in 1975. Almost three decades later, the veterans want to ensure America's military avoids another unfinished war.

Joel Kernodle, spokesman for MOVEOUT! (Marines and Other Veterans Engaging Un-American Traitors), said America's troops that are preparing for war with Iraq need to know that their country is behind them and not confuse the political posturing back home with their mission abroad.

"We remember when we didn't have that - not to the degree that we should have had it and needed it - so, things turned out badly," said Kernodle, who served in Vietnam as a lance corporal in the U.S. Marine Corps.

"Militarily, we won the war in Vietnam, and then we were called out of there and we left. Then, about 18 months later, it was basically handed over to the communists on a silver platter," he said.

Kernodle said the current anti-war movement is only interested in maintaining the status quo in a Middle Eastern region ruled by fundamentalist extremists who are constantly plotting to destroy America.

"There is a close working relationship among these fundamentalists to aid, abet and provide training grounds and funds for terrorists. That's how war is being waged on us," he said. "They can't face us heads up. They don't have the technology to do it, so this is how they're getting the job done."

But Kernodle said the majority of anti-war activists don't believe the Vietnam vets and the patriotic citizens from the D.C. Chapter of the Free Republic have a right to protest in support of America's war on terror.

Unlike the anti-war groups and students that will be participating in International A.N.S.W.E.R.'s (Act Now to Stop the War and End Racism) protest rally Saturday, Kernodle said his organization "believes that this country has been attacked" by terrorists supported by Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein.

However, he said, "It is extremely apparent that there is a large number of the radicals on the left who absolutely are intolerant of any voice but their own, and they will go to the point of being physically threatening to preclude any of that happening."

Kernodle said a recent online announcement of the veterans group's intention to counter-protest International A.N.S.W.E.R. in Washington yielded more than 150 responses from anti-war activists - all threatening some form of physical violence against him and fellow veterans intent on attending the Jan. 18 event.

"All we want to do is go there and show what our presence is, and that's all," he said. "We're not physically threatening the left. We haven't told anybody, 'We're going to attack you.' They've certainly done it to us."

Amidst all of their differences, Kernodle said his contingency of war veterans has at least one item in common with anti-war activists. By his account, both groups agree the Bush administration must be held accountable for the way it conducts itself in a wartime situation with Iraq.

"We're not totally in disagreement with everything that the other side is going there for," he said of International A.N.S.W.E.R.'s anti-war agenda. "We will be watching how the administration handles this war, and if need be, we will be critical of that."

According to Kernodle, nothing short of a leadership change in Iraq will suffice for military victory for Vietnam veterans.

"We think that there needs to be focus in getting the job done because in every instance where we decisively acted, it turned out good in the end in places like Germany and Japan," he said.

"When we didn't use resolve to finish the job properly like we didn't in Korea, Vietnam and in Desert Storm, look what happened. We just continued to have the problem," Kernodle said.

Some Desert Storm veterans, however, do not share Kernodle and MOVEOUT!'s all-or-nothing military agenda towards Iraq. At least two veterans groups whose members have seen active duty in the Persian Gulf say they're not convinced Iraq presents a "clear and present danger" to America.

Veterans for Common Sense (VCS) and Military Families Speak Out (MFSO) will hold a joint press conference on Friday to highlight issues that the groups claim President Bush has failed to address. Both groups want Bush "to reassure them and an increasingly alarmed public that his administration is not hell bent on conflict."

Friday's event will mark the first time that families with deployed volunteer service members and Desert Storm veterans have joined together to voice their concerns and search for the "smoking gun" that would legitimize any U.S. military action against Iraq.

"War with Iraq is neither necessary nor inevitable," the groups stated. "Americans feel the president has failed to justify a U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq. We encourage him to win without war by adhering to the U.N. process."

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To: Darksheare
How do you think their folks met?
41 posted on 01/15/2003 12:54:44 PM PST by lorrainer (You heard it here first.)
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To: lorrainer
I'm not sure they HAVE parents.
Maybe they're like the pod people from Invasion of the Bodysnatchers.
Maybe they've been hatched like the Gargoyles...
But one thing I have trouble mentally juggling: How any two people could honestly have a child that ugly. (Madeline, Helen, Joe LIE BIG, man.)
And NOT commit suicide afterwards.
42 posted on 01/15/2003 12:59:44 PM PST by Darksheare (This space has been banned by the Americans Against Taglines.)
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To: CougarGA7
these brats have no concept of what these people and others like them did for this country. I'm a 10th grader, and Patriotism is being bred out of us. It's an feeling very few of us had and most of us (including me) were surprised by the degree of after 9/11. It's hard to describe.... I think it's because I missed Reagan though ;0)
43 posted on 01/15/2003 2:29:19 PM PST by katherineisgreat
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To: Darksheare

You're right, no suicicde by parents.

44 posted on 01/15/2003 2:36:44 PM PST by lorrainer (~sigh)
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To: katherineisgreat
I went to high school during the Reagan Adminsitration and the one thing I really remember from it was the level of patriotism and national pride in my high school. Almost a quarter of the graduates of my class, including myself went into the armed forces after graduation.

The problem today is that there are too many talking heads like these nuts who have made even the mention of the word "Partrotism" politcally incorrect. These people feel that they have the right to hate the veterens who served and died for this country. And they are correct, they do have that right. But if they really had a brain in their head they would realize that if it were not for these men and women they may not have any rights at all.

45 posted on 01/15/2003 2:43:27 PM PST by CougarGA7 (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Doctor Raoul; kristinn; Republic; Carl/NewsMax; miss print; Joy Angela; Mustang; Clinton Is Scum; ..
...With his Patriotic Triology .."BRAVEHEART".., .."The PATRIOT".. -&- .."WE WERE SOLDIERS"..

...MEL GIBSON becomes America's new JOHN WAYNE just as...

...the Enemy Within HILLARY RODHAM takes her seat on the U.S. Senate's Armed Services Committee in -Time of War-..!!!

...No wonder HILLARY RODHAM's Front Line Troops are attacking MEL GIBSON's with such a Vengeance in the War between Good -&- Evil...???
46 posted on 01/15/2003 3:11:14 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ( ..Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LzXRay.com ..)
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To: Doctor Raoul
MOVEOUT! (Marines and Other Veterans Engaging Un-American Traitors),

God bless 'em! For victory & freedom!!!

47 posted on 01/15/2003 3:14:20 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Doctor Raoul
It's disgusting how these liberals have treated our military in the past. My uncle who served in Vietnam told me stories of college kids spitting at him when he came home. He also told me that he had to sneak off of the airplane when he came home because of the threats directed towards our HEROS!!!

Although World War II veterans were treated with the respect they so honorable deserved I still think of my great uncle who never came home. After his parents were notified of his death, they had received the last letter he had written. I think of him when I see these anti-American a$$holes marching in support of an animal like Saddam and I want to scream.....why can't they ever realize what soldiers like my uncles gave up so much for this country?

It's unacceptable and unforgiving when I see how ungreatful people are for their freedom and God help them if I should ever see anti-war protesters spitting on another soldier...I was never in the military but I could definatly put a "WhoopOhA$$" on em!
48 posted on 01/15/2003 4:10:40 PM PST by Arpege92
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To: steplock
There will be no ass kicking other than embarassing them by showing that they do NOT represent all of the American people and do NOT represent all of the Vets.

The left propoganda at these rallies has included that the dead from the Vietnam war and the Iraqi people would oppose this war if they could speak at the ANSWER rally. Well we had Iraqis and they said to bomb Saddam. And these folks will show that their claim to those who fought in Vietnam is false too.

49 posted on 01/15/2003 4:25:40 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (DEFUND NPR - Make Liberal Talk Radio Pay For Itself)
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To: ppaul
Actually, the Police are very good at separating the two sides of competing groups using horses and/or motorcycles.

At the last IMF-World Bank protest, the lefties stopped to lecture and preen. When they started to lose the arguements, well they got steamed. One of their people started to wind up like a batter with a camera tripod. Out of nowhere, US Park Police mounted officers move in from the left while their motorcycle contingent came in from the right. THey separated the groups quickly, cleanly (nobody ended up with the wrong group) and decisively. It was amazing to watch. The lefties were so stunned it took away their urge to fight. And things calmed down.

At our last rally, the horses were used to move out the left wing wackos that the commie NLG lawyers brought down to our site.

50 posted on 01/15/2003 4:32:22 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (DEFUND NPR - Make Liberal Talk Radio Pay For Itself)
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To: lorrainer
Egads!
NOOOooo!
*Makes sign of the cross, grabs holy water and a wooden stake*
That is hideous!
51 posted on 01/15/2003 4:35:16 PM PST by Darksheare (This space has been banned by the Americans Against Taglines.)
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To: lorrainer
Please tell me that it won't try to mutate into human form....
52 posted on 01/15/2003 4:37:36 PM PST by Darksheare (This space has been banned by the Americans Against Taglines.)
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To: LonghornFreeper
That wouldn't be in accordance with our rules for protesting.

THeir side is bew to the non-violent protest, ours have always been non-violent.

The little commies got caught discussing how they made a deliberate decision to hold off on their old ways in order to attract the Million Mom type trade.

53 posted on 01/15/2003 4:41:23 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (DEFUND NPR - Make Liberal Talk Radio Pay For Itself)
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To: Doctor Raoul
...they do NOT represent all of the American people and do NOT represent all of the Vets.

Not in your name, eh? (snicker)

Make us proud out there, get lots of good press (lol), and be careful!

54 posted on 01/15/2003 5:01:56 PM PST by lorrainer (FReepers Rule!)
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To: Darksheare
Please tell me that it won't try to mutate into human form.......and show up naked at an anti-war protest.
55 posted on 01/15/2003 5:12:07 PM PST by lorrainer (Well, YOU started it!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Posters at a local college tell of an large Anti-War Protest planned for "Enero 18" in San Francisco and Washington DC.

Funny that the posters were only in Spanish.

I can't figure that out the motiviation for that.

Enero is January???
56 posted on 01/15/2003 7:00:03 PM PST by Joy Angela
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To: lorrainer
I hear that Chelsea Clinton (like her mother) has undergone tons of Plastic Surgery.

You may sigh at her appearance, but know that her looks are totally fake and only motivated to further her own mother's political agenda.

How sick is that?

Never doubt the Clinton's LUST is all about power.

"Chelsea Victoria" Clinton

"Shall See Victory"

Their VICTORY will mean the END of America.

57 posted on 01/15/2003 7:05:49 PM PST by Joy Angela
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To: Joy Angela
OK, now I'm going to have trouble sleeping tonight.
58 posted on 01/15/2003 8:14:22 PM PST by lorrainer (I thought cloning was illegal.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Kernodle said a recent online announcement of the veterans group's intention to counter-protest International A.N.S.W.E.R. in Washington yielded more than 150 responses from anti-war activists - all threatening some form of physical violence against him and fellow veterans intent on attending the Jan. 18 event.

Peaceniks picking on former infantry / soldiers is a lifespan limiting move.

Thank God the Left is stupid.

59 posted on 01/15/2003 8:17:24 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Darth Crackerhead)
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To: toddst
I wish I had a camcorder the other night on Bardstown Road, here in Louisville. We were outnumbered by the leftist "peaceniks" 150-4, but we stood our ground. I was waiving Old Glory the whole time.
60 posted on 01/16/2003 6:28:56 AM PST by RonPaulLives (Virgil Moore/Don Bell For Governor/Lt. Governor)
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