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Anti-War Protesters Threaten Vietnam Vets With Violence
Crosswalk.com ^ | 1/15/03 | Michael L. Betsch

Posted on 01/15/2003 5:50:50 AM PST by Doctor Raoul


Anti-War Protesters Threaten Vietnam Vets With Violence
Michael L. Betsch
Staff Writer

(CNSNews.com) - Two generations of Americans will collide in Washington, D.C., on Saturday when a coalition of Vietnam veterans counter-protests thousands of anti-war protesters, many of whom were born years after Saigon fell to the Communists in 1975. Almost three decades later, the veterans want to ensure America's military avoids another unfinished war.

Joel Kernodle, spokesman for MOVEOUT! (Marines and Other Veterans Engaging Un-American Traitors), said America's troops that are preparing for war with Iraq need to know that their country is behind them and not confuse the political posturing back home with their mission abroad.

"We remember when we didn't have that - not to the degree that we should have had it and needed it - so, things turned out badly," said Kernodle, who served in Vietnam as a lance corporal in the U.S. Marine Corps.

"Militarily, we won the war in Vietnam, and then we were called out of there and we left. Then, about 18 months later, it was basically handed over to the communists on a silver platter," he said.

Kernodle said the current anti-war movement is only interested in maintaining the status quo in a Middle Eastern region ruled by fundamentalist extremists who are constantly plotting to destroy America.

"There is a close working relationship among these fundamentalists to aid, abet and provide training grounds and funds for terrorists. That's how war is being waged on us," he said. "They can't face us heads up. They don't have the technology to do it, so this is how they're getting the job done."

But Kernodle said the majority of anti-war activists don't believe the Vietnam vets and the patriotic citizens from the D.C. Chapter of the Free Republic have a right to protest in support of America's war on terror.

Unlike the anti-war groups and students that will be participating in International A.N.S.W.E.R.'s (Act Now to Stop the War and End Racism) protest rally Saturday, Kernodle said his organization "believes that this country has been attacked" by terrorists supported by Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein.

However, he said, "It is extremely apparent that there is a large number of the radicals on the left who absolutely are intolerant of any voice but their own, and they will go to the point of being physically threatening to preclude any of that happening."

Kernodle said a recent online announcement of the veterans group's intention to counter-protest International A.N.S.W.E.R. in Washington yielded more than 150 responses from anti-war activists - all threatening some form of physical violence against him and fellow veterans intent on attending the Jan. 18 event.

"All we want to do is go there and show what our presence is, and that's all," he said. "We're not physically threatening the left. We haven't told anybody, 'We're going to attack you.' They've certainly done it to us."

Amidst all of their differences, Kernodle said his contingency of war veterans has at least one item in common with anti-war activists. By his account, both groups agree the Bush administration must be held accountable for the way it conducts itself in a wartime situation with Iraq.

"We're not totally in disagreement with everything that the other side is going there for," he said of International A.N.S.W.E.R.'s anti-war agenda. "We will be watching how the administration handles this war, and if need be, we will be critical of that."

According to Kernodle, nothing short of a leadership change in Iraq will suffice for military victory for Vietnam veterans.

"We think that there needs to be focus in getting the job done because in every instance where we decisively acted, it turned out good in the end in places like Germany and Japan," he said.

"When we didn't use resolve to finish the job properly like we didn't in Korea, Vietnam and in Desert Storm, look what happened. We just continued to have the problem," Kernodle said.

Some Desert Storm veterans, however, do not share Kernodle and MOVEOUT!'s all-or-nothing military agenda towards Iraq. At least two veterans groups whose members have seen active duty in the Persian Gulf say they're not convinced Iraq presents a "clear and present danger" to America.

Veterans for Common Sense (VCS) and Military Families Speak Out (MFSO) will hold a joint press conference on Friday to highlight issues that the groups claim President Bush has failed to address. Both groups want Bush "to reassure them and an increasingly alarmed public that his administration is not hell bent on conflict."

Friday's event will mark the first time that families with deployed volunteer service members and Desert Storm veterans have joined together to voice their concerns and search for the "smoking gun" that would legitimize any U.S. military action against Iraq.

"War with Iraq is neither necessary nor inevitable," the groups stated. "Americans feel the president has failed to justify a U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq. We encourage him to win without war by adhering to the U.N. process."

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To: anniegetyourgun
I haven't decided if these people are actually anti-war, or just anti-American.

By in large, the 60s version of these people were anything but anti-war. They loved any war, anywhere, as long as the Commie side was winning. I suspect the same is true today.

21 posted on 01/15/2003 7:53:12 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Doctor Raoul
These are the same people who deny that they spat on our vietnam veterans.

I will be there and Im bringing my 15yr old son, I just want him to see this with his own eyes so that he will remember the disrespect and the LOATHING that these people harbor for people with the wrong point of view.

If it gets really ugly we are going to have to retreat unless there is adequate protection from these Maoist 'revolutionaries'.

22 posted on 01/15/2003 8:28:42 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (Ive got a tag line around here somewhere...)
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To: Doctor Raoul
The left already did just that, way back when our boys came home from war.
They were spit on, and that was the least of offenses.

I feel sorry for anyone who does try to attack the vets, the poor sap doesn't know what they're in for. They've got this image of veterans as creaky old fogeys who cower in corners.

Hopefully, the Veterans won't have to do anything like that. Hopefully, the pogeys (police) will keep an eye on the peaceniks.. (I know, I know.. pipe dream/wishful thinking.)
23 posted on 01/15/2003 8:55:45 AM PST by Darksheare ("highly hopping hairballs hurting happy henchmen"-Sarah)
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To: Doctor Raoul
"We're not physically threatening the left.

Well, it's about time somebody does!


24 posted on 01/15/2003 9:29:29 AM PST by ppaul
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25 posted on 01/15/2003 9:36:53 AM PST by ppaul
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To: ken5050
I will be bringing a tape recorder, since I am guesting on a radio show next week to talk about the protest. :)
26 posted on 01/15/2003 9:43:52 AM PST by Hobsonphile
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To: Doctor Raoul
"When we didn't use resolve to finish the job properly like we didn't in Korea, Vietnam and in Desert Storm, look what happened. We just continued to have the problem," Kernodle said.

Exactly right. The last time we successfully completed a military mission was 57 years ago. And the reason is always the same -- bureaucratic bullsh/t.

27 posted on 01/15/2003 9:54:25 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: anniegetyourgun
I haven't decided if these people are actually anti-war, or just anti-American.

Don't give all of them credit for thinking this through on any level. To many, it is a FASHION statement. And a great way to pick up chicks.

28 posted on 01/15/2003 10:42:49 AM PST by lorrainer (Yes. We think for ourselves.)
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To: lorrainer
Have you seen some of the chicks that are peaceniks?
I'd rather be gang raped by Satanic sado-masochistic biker-chicks than try to pick up one of those flubbery brainless losers.
29 posted on 01/15/2003 11:34:49 AM PST by Darksheare (This space has been banned by the Americans Against Taglines.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
or just anti-American

That one.

30 posted on 01/15/2003 11:36:39 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Proud owner of a new, gas-guzzlin', road-hoggin SUV!!!!!!!)
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To: Doctor Raoul
This looks to me like what Col. Cooper would call "...an acute failure of the victim selection process."
31 posted on 01/15/2003 11:43:01 AM PST by Oberon
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bttt
32 posted on 01/15/2003 11:44:57 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe (God Armeth The Patriot)
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To: Doctor Raoul; kristinn
You both have mail.
33 posted on 01/15/2003 11:52:45 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Proud owner of a new, gas-guzzlin', road-hoggin SUV!!!!!!!)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Be safe.

The media would like to portray the rioting, destruction of personal property and physical assualt during large protests by leftists as a few bad apples.

Don't believe them. If what my father says is true, most groups have a tactical wing with enforcers.

34 posted on 01/15/2003 12:00:27 PM PST by amused (socialism is totalitarianism in sheep's clothing)
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To: Doctor Raoul
violence is only fashionable when used in support of
the lefts agenda.
35 posted on 01/15/2003 12:10:05 PM PST by ottersnot
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To: anniegetyourgun
The anti-war agenda is just a tool used to fight
the enemies of these lefties.
Emotional based as it is, this peacenik agenda lacks an appreciation or perspective of history, not to mention logic.
36 posted on 01/15/2003 12:13:17 PM PST by ottersnot
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To: Doctor Raoul
I wish the punks could live under the pukes they support , say a for year so they can get a real education.

I just pray one of these punks would try to get violent with me. I'd kick that #ss with my good leg and beat them over the head with bad one.

37 posted on 01/15/2003 12:17:49 PM PST by oyez (Ammo first.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
I hope that some of these vets and their supporters go to the protest prepared to kick ass if necessary. One of my lifelong wishes is that some commie scum would attack me at some demonstration, so I could beat the crap out of him on national TV. Some of these vets (the non-disabled ones) should still be in good shape, and must have had hand to hand combat training. If not, just bring some brass knuckles, lead pipes, and bike chains. It is time for the right to stop being intimidated and start fighting back.
38 posted on 01/15/2003 12:32:02 PM PST by LonghornFreeper
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To: Darksheare
I didn't say they were smart. :o)
39 posted on 01/15/2003 12:47:49 PM PST by lorrainer (You heard it here first.)
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To: lorrainer
Well...
*Sheepish grin*
True.

But still.. the mental image of someone trying to pick up one of those chicks............
40 posted on 01/15/2003 12:50:27 PM PST by Darksheare (This space has been banned by the Americans Against Taglines.)
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