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Saddam and al Qaeda the link we've all missed
David Rose | December 9, 2002 | David Rose

Posted on 01/14/2003 10:05:20 AM PST by Wallaby

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Saddam and al Qaeda the link we've all missed;
The conventional belief is that the Iraqi dictator and Bin Laden are still foes. Recent intelligence reports tell a different story

David Rose

The Evening Standard (London) Pg. 11

December 9, 2002


DESPITE their bitter divisions over possible war in Iraq, doves and many hawks on this side of the Atlantic share a common, often-stated belief: that there is "no evidence" of a link between Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network and Saddam Hussein's regime. In London and Washington, the Foreign Office, MI6, the State Department and the CIA have been spinning this claim to reporters for more than a decade, long before the attacks of 11 September last year.


It is undisputed that Iraqi-sponsored assassins tried to kill George Bush senior on a visit to the Gulf in 1993. The same year, Abdul Rahman Yasin mixed and made the truck bomb which wrought destruction and killed six in the first New York World Trade Center attack - then coolly boarded a plane for Baghdad, where he still resides.
Constant repetition of an erroneous position does not, however, make it true. Having investigated the denial of an Iraqi connection for more than a year, I am convinced it is false. The strongest evidence comes from a surprising source - the files of those same intelligence agencies who have spent so long publicly playing this connection down. According to the conventional wisdom, Saddam is a "secular" dictator, whose loathing for Islamic fundamentalism is intense, while Bin Laden and his cohorts would like to kill the Iraqi president almost as much George W Bush.

All reports of a link can be disregarded on this ground alone.

Though they may get scant attention, some of the facts of Saddam's involvement with Islamic terrorism are not disputed. Hamas, the fundamentalist Palestinian group, whose gift to the world is the suicide bomb, has maintained a Baghdad office - funded by Saddam - for many years.


"In the Cold War," says one of them, "often you'd draw firm conclusions and make policy on the basis of just four or five reports. Here there are almost 100 separate examples of Iraq-al Qaeda co-operation going back to 1992."

His intelligence service, the Mukhabarat, has a special department whose sole function is liaison with Hamas. In return, Hamas has praised Saddam extravagantly on its website and on paper.

SINCE his defeat in the Gulf War in 1991, Saddam's supposed secularism has looked decidedly thin.

Increasingly, he has relied on Islamist rhetoric in an attempt to rally the "Arab street". Meanwhile, Osama bin Laden's 1998 fatwa justified its call for Muslims to kill American and Jewish civilians on the basis of a lengthy critique of US hostility towards "secular" Iraq.

It is also undisputed that Iraqi-sponsored assassins tried to kill George Bush senior on a visit to the Gulf in 1993. The same year, Abdul Rahman Yasin mixed and made the truck bomb which wrought destruction and killed six in the first New York World Trade Center attack - then coolly boarded a plane for Baghdad, where he still resides.

There is strong evidence that Ramzi Yousef, leader of both the 1993 New York bombing and a failed attempt two years later to down 12 American airliners over the Pacific, was an Iraqi intelligence officer. All this was known in the Nineties. Nevertheless, the "no connection" argument was rapidly becoming orthodoxy.

The 9/11 attacks were, selfevidently, a failure of intelligence: no one saw them coming. Awareness of this failure, and its possible consequences for individuals' careers, are the only reasons I can find for the wall of spin which the spooks have fed to the media almost ever since.


Not only had Havel not phoned Bush, the Czechs remained convinced that Atta did meet Al-Ani. They had been tracking him continuously because his predecessor had been caught red-handed - in a plot to detonate a terrorist bomb.

Iraq must have been more intensely spied upon than any other country throughout the 1990s. If the agencies missed a Saddam-al Qaeda connection, it might reasonably be argued, then many heads should roll.

My own doubts emerged more than a year ago, when a very senior CIA man told me that, contrary to the line his own colleagues were assiduously disseminating, there was evidence of an Iraq-al Qaeda link.

He confirmed a story I had been told by members of the anti-Saddam Iraqi National Congress - that two of the hijackers, Marwan Al-Shehhi and Ziad Jarrah, had met Mukhabarat officers in the months before 9/11 in the United Arab Emirates.

This, he said, was part of a pattern of contact between Iraq and al Qaeda which went back years.

Yet the attempts to refute the link were feverish. The best known example is the strange case of the meetings in Prague between Mohamed Atta, the 9/11 plot's alleged leader, and Khalil Al-Ani, a Mukhabarat sabotage expert.

For at least the third time, The New York Times tried at the end of October to rebut the claim that the Prague meetings ever happened, reporting that the Czech President Vaclav Havel had phoned the White House to tell Bush that it was fiction.

Barely had the paper hit the streets before Havel's spokesman stated publicly that the story was a "fabrication".

Not only had Havel not phoned Bush, the Czechs remained convinced that Atta did meet Al-Ani. They had been tracking him continuously because his predecessor had been caught red-handed - in a plot to detonate a terrorist bomb.

As I reveal in Vanity Fair, earlier this year the Pentagon established a special intelligence unit to re-examine evidence of an Iraq-al Qaeda relationship. After initially fighting the proposal, the CIA agreed to supply this unit with copies of its own reports going back 10 years. I have spoken to three senior officials who have seen its conclusions, which are striking.

"In the Cold War," says one of them, "often you'd draw firm conclusions and make policy on the basis of just four or five reports. Here there are almost 100 separate examples of Iraq-al Qaeda co-operation going back to 1992."

All these reports, says the official, were given the CIA's highest credibility rating - defined as information from a source which had proven reliable in the past.

At least one concerns Bin Laden personally, who is said to have spent weeks with a top Mukhabarat officer in Afghanistan in 1998.

THIS week, attention remains focused on the UN weapons inspectors, and the deadline for Iraq's declaration of any weapons of mass destruction. But the recent Security Council resolution also noted Iraq's failure to abandon support for international terror, as it had promised at the end of the 1991 Gulf War. If there were the political will - rather a big if, admittedly - this could constitute a casus belli every bit as legitimate as Iraqi possession of a nuclear weapon.

Ignoring Iraq's support for terror is a seductive proposition, which fits pleasingly with democracies' natural reluctance to wage war. But if we are serious about winning the war on terror, self-delusion is not an option.

An attempt to achieve regime change in Iraq would not be a distraction, but an integral part of the struggle.


David Rose is a contributing editor to Vanity Fair magazine. His article on Saddam, al Qaeda and the Iraqis appears in the current issue.



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To: swarthyguy; Wallaby; The Great Satan
Bodansky and Mylroie have conflicting stories to tell about Al Qaeda. Essentially, Bodansky says Iran is behind Al Qaeda, Mylroie says Iraq. More precisely, Bodansky says Iran, Sudan and Pakistan have been Bin Laden's main sponsors, with Iraq playing a minor role until 1998, while Mylroie blames almost everything on Iraq. They explicitly differ over the 1993 WTC bombing: Bodansky says Iran gave the go-ahead, while Mylroie's whole book is about linking it to Iraq.

Bodansky and Mylroie also both have a connection to the OKC affair. Bodansky provided evidence of government foreknowledge to Jayna Davis, but later asked her not to use it in public. Mylroie was a consultant to the McVeigh defense. She doesn't mention OKC95 in her book, but in an interview with Arutz Sheva she said it was the same story as WTC93. Bodansky doesn't mention OKC95 in his book either; he does say TWA800 was terrorism; but in both cases he seems to blame Iran, even though TWA800 was shot down on July 17, Iraqi national day.

I find Bodansky's big picture credible, but I also tend to agree with Mylroie's investigations. So I wonder what's going on here. Is Bodansky suppressing the Iraqi connection in a few sensitive cases, for political reasons? Has Iraq fed his sources disinformation blaming Iran? For that matter, in principle a July 17 attack could be Iran trying to frame Iraq, and this could also apply to the timing of WTC93 (second anniversary of Gulf War ceasefire), but that would leave unexplained the other Iraqi connections to WTC93.

Finally, there's the possibility that Iran and Iraq are in it together somehow. Iraq could have infiltrated Iranian-sponsored networks, or it could simply be a joint operation. The way Bodansky tells it, both Iran and Iraq played a role in Somalia 1993, with Sudan and Bin Laden mediating.

On the subject of the anthrax... Mylroie found that an unknown student of microbiology was on the fringes of the WTC93 conspiracy (the phone records show them receiving many calls from known conspirators). Would anthrax letters have shown up ten years ago, if Ramzi Yousef had been successful? Could the bioterror threat have been the reason for the Iraq cover-up from the beginning? If Bush in 2003 can be blackmailed like that, so can Clinton in 1993.

On the other hand, while the "sword-and-shield" interpretation of 9/11+anthrax makes sense in the abstract (anthrax as deterrent to retaliation for 9/11), I'm not quite satisfied that it fits all the details. It could be that anthrax was simply Plan A (to be sprayed from modified cropdusters), but there were prohibitive logistical problems (with culturing the anthrax, with obtaining and modifying the cropduster), so they fell back on Plan B-for-Bojinka, and gave their anthrax cache to some other Al Qaeda operative, who used it all up in the anthrax letters. After all, the letters did not say "THIS IS NEXT UNLESS YOU LEAVE US ALONE", they just said "THIS IS NEXT".
61 posted on 01/14/2003 8:17:13 PM PST by apokatastasis
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To: apokatastasis; Angelus Errare
But what about the Saudis?
62 posted on 01/14/2003 8:45:12 PM PST by swarthyguy (NUKE MAkkAH for Jesus. Krishna, Shiva, Buddha, and Mary and the Mother....)
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To: apokatastasis
I'm not quite satisfied that it fits all the details. It could be that anthrax was simply Plan A (to be sprayed from modified cropdusters),

Crop dusters wouldn't be useful for spreading the anthrax sent to Daschle. That anthrax is a dry powder. It represents Iraq's key technological breakthrough since the Gulf War, when they apparently only had a liquid-slurry form of anthrax. The powder is vastly more dangerous because of the ease of dispersal. As for the cropduster thing, I suspect the that was just Atta's attempt to jerk our collective chains from beyond the grave.

63 posted on 01/15/2003 12:10:06 AM PST by The Great Satan
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To: Wallaby
"I'm not going to talk about a state sponsor [of anthrax letters]," Tenet assured them. "It's good that we don't," said Cheney, "because we're not ready to do anything about it."

But we are now!. Or soon will be, very soon.

64 posted on 01/17/2003 9:47:08 PM PST by El Gato
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To: vin-one
right when the bombs start dropping he will let everyone know the truth

Hopefully a few hours before that, just to observe the proper diplomatic "form".

65 posted on 01/17/2003 9:48:30 PM PST by El Gato
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To: WhiskeyPapa
We (the USA) are now spending 50% of the money on defense world wide.

Source? The Chinese are spending what they can, and things, including manpower most especially, cost them alot less that they cost us. I think the Aussies and the Japanese have picked up their spending quite a bit in the last few years. Meanwhile, while our spending has increased somewhat since 1991, not all that much. Otherwise why, on the apparent eve of war, would we have mothballed 30% of our B-1B fleet? We didn't do it because we didn't think we'd need them, we did it to save enough money to keep the others flying. The spending base we started with in 1990 or so was the lowest fraction of our GDP spent on defense since well before WW-II. Meanwhile overall federal spending as a fraction of GDP was at all time record highs, excepting that during WW-II itself, and it approached those levels.

66 posted on 01/17/2003 10:04:33 PM PST by El Gato
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To: swarthyguy
Secular? America helped with the jihadis to oust the Commies from Afghanistan. Same jihadis except they hate us more than anyone else now, but we worked with them for a long time.

Some are the same, but many are not. The Taliban didn't become a signifigent factor in Afghanistan until the other anti Russian factions exhausted themselves fighting first the Russians and then each other. Then, like the Bolishiveks after the first Russian revolution, they strolled right in, having husbanded their forces to do just that, and with help from the non-Afghan "Arabs", brought to the country by the likes of Osama.

67 posted on 01/17/2003 10:14:26 PM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato
We (the USA) are now spending 50% of the money on defense world wide.

Source?

http://www.d-n-i.net/

Walt

68 posted on 01/18/2003 3:38:27 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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To: El Gato
Otherwise why, on the apparent eve of war, would we have mothballed 30% of our B-1B fleet?

I'd guess pie in sky crap like directed engery weapons, missile defense and similar crap.

If people get the government they deserve, we -deserve- to go bankrupt.

Walt

69 posted on 01/18/2003 9:03:01 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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To: Wallaby
Bump.
71 posted on 01/18/2003 9:22:17 AM PST by Rocko
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To: El Gato
>>Then, like the Bolishiveks after the first Russian revolution, they strolled right in, having husbanded their forces to do just that, and with help from the non-Afghan "Arabs", brought to the country by the likes of Osama.


Yes, sponsored by the Saudis and implemented by the Pakistanis. Strolling perhaps, but carefully planned and exceedingly well executed. Benazir Bhutto PM of Pakistan and later Nawaz Sharif, let it happen, because they had no control over the jihadist mil/ISI Pakistanis, buoyed by the Saudis let the Talib happen. They could just as easily have taken a forceful, principled stand to force their countries into a modernistic frame of mind. But spilt milk now.....
72 posted on 01/18/2003 8:52:21 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Alamo-Girl
ping
73 posted on 01/18/2003 9:27:00 PM PST by amom
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To: amom
Thank you so much for the heads up! Hugs!
74 posted on 01/18/2003 9:33:40 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: The Great Satan
Crop dusters wouldn't be useful for spreading the anthrax sent to Daschle.

I don't see why...

That anthrax is a dry powder. It represents Iraq's key technological breakthrough since the Gulf War, when they apparently only had a liquid-slurry form of anthrax. The powder is vastly more dangerous because of the ease of dispersal.

According to this FAQ, dry agents are more suited to cropduster dispersal than are slurries. "Dry biowarfare agents do not tend to clog sprayers and are hardened against environmental conditions."

As for the cropduster thing, I suspect that was just Atta's attempt to jerk our collective chains from beyond the grave.

Moussaoui was interested in cropdusters too.

75 posted on 01/19/2003 10:45:27 PM PST by apokatastasis
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To: apokatastasis
You could be right on the cropduster thing. I read something about that the other day, can't remember where, but it said that powdered anthrax could be sprayed from a cropduster. Sounds a bit odd to me, though -- I would have figured a crop duster is only set up to disperse liquid. Edward J. Epstein has cast doubt on the whole cropduster story, calling it a fictoid: The Terror Crop Dusters. Dunno what to make of that. Epstein is obviously a very smart guy, and his website is very well done. OTOH, I found much to disagree with there, even if he is thinking a bitter deeper than most people in the media. Oftentimes he misses the obvious and over-complicates things needlessly. Still, it's definitely worth a look.
76 posted on 01/19/2003 10:59:59 PM PST by The Great Satan
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To: swarthyguy; Angelus Errare
This article claims that Al Qaeda is ultimately a collaboration between Iraqi intelligence and the Abdallah faction in Saudi Arabia. If that were true, then the history of Al Qaeda's relationship to the Saudi state would be: in favor until Iraq invaded Kuwait and King Fahd brought in American troops; out of favor while Fahd was running things; back in favor once Abdallah became regent.
77 posted on 01/20/2003 12:05:35 AM PST by apokatastasis
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To: vin-one
Also their attacks upon us may start in 2 weeks. They learn from their military mistakes, too. We win Iraq, but lose NYC and Chicago and other cities that rely on subways.
78 posted on 01/20/2003 12:15:27 AM PST by Dec31,1999
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To: apokatastasis; The Great Satan
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Iraq's improved biological weapons a serious threat, officials say
By MATT KELLEY, Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press

December 27, 2002, Friday, BC cycle

WASHINGTON
Biological weapons are among the few capabilities Iraq has improved since being defeated by a U.S.-led coalition in the 1991 Persian Gulf War, government officials say.

Working under the noses of U.N. inspectors from 1991 to 1998, President Saddam Hussein's government probably developed mobile germ warfare labs and processes to create dried bacteria for deadlier and longer-lasting weapons, U.S. officials and former weapons inspectors say. Pentagon officials say Iraq's biological arsenal could do the most damage, physical and psychological, if it were used to retaliate immediately against a U.S. invasion rather than in later stages of battle.


Dried anthrax is easier to disperse as a weapon, easier to get into a target's lungs and lasts longer in storage
Although U.S. troops are being vaccinated against anthrax and smallpox and have protective gear, a biological attack cannot be detected until after exposure. Even if a biological attack did not kill U.S. troops, it could kill many civilians and create a logistical mess that would slow an

American advance and strain the military's medical capabilities. "The most frightening thing is Iraq's biological program," said David Kay, a former chief weapons inspector for the United Nations. "Even in my inspection days, it was the program we knew the least about."

What inspectors eventually learned was disturbing. After the 1995 defection of Saddam's son-in-law, who ran the germ weapons program, Iraq acknowledged brewing thousands of gallons of deadly germs and toxins and loading some of them in bombs, missile warheads and rockets.

The weapons included anthrax, the germ that killed seven people in last year's U.S. mail attacks; botulinum toxin, nature's most deadly poison; Clostridium perfringens, a flesh-eating bacterium that causes gas gangrene; and aflatoxin, a fungal poison that causes liver cancer. In late 1998, frustrated by Iraq's refusal to cooperate, the inspectors withdrew shortly before the United States and Britain began "Operation Desert Fox," a bombing campaign to compel compliance by Iraq. Saddam refused to let the inspectors return.

Iraq claimed it destroyed all its biological weapons. U.N. inspectors concluded in 1999 that probably was a lie, because Saddam's scientists could have made thousands of gallons of biological weapons without declaring them. U.S. officials say Iraq's latest weapons declaration does not clear up discrepancies.

"Before the inspectors were forced to leave Iraq, they concluded that Iraq could have produced 26,000 liters of anthrax. That is three times the amount Iraq had declared," Secretary of State Colin Powell said recently. "Yet the Iraqi declaration is silent on this stockpile, which alone would be enough to kill several million people."

The omissions, U.S. officials and former inspectors say, are strong evidence that Iraq has retained at least some of its biological arsenal. Iraq's development of anthrax-drying technology makes that arsenal even more dangerous than it was during the Gulf War. Its earlier biological weapons efforts relied on a liquid slurry of anthrax, which let the spores clump together and made it difficult to get the fine aerosol needed to get the germs into people's lungs.


Iraq also has imported hundreds of tons of fumed silicon dioxide, another substance that would give anthrax an aerosol quality.
U.N. inspectors in the late 1990s found Iraq had drying machines that could be used to make a powdered form of anthrax.

The Iraqis claimed they were making a biological pesticide from a worm-killing bacteria known as BT, said former inspector Jonathan Tucker. But they were making particles so small they would float through the air, not settle onto crops like a biopesticide should, Tucker said. Inspectors believed Iraq was using BT, a relative of the anthrax germ, as a testing stand-in for anthrax, Tucker said.

Evidence also suggested that Iraq was experimenting with drying anthrax in combination with bentonite, a compound that would help the anthrax particles stay aloft. Iraq also has imported hundreds of tons of fumed silicon dioxide, another substance that would give anthrax an aerosol quality.

Dried anthrax is easier to disperse as a weapon, easier to get into a target's lungs and lasts longer in storage, Tucker and another former U.N. inspector, Richard Spertzel, said. Particles small enough could penetrate even the U.S. military's protective gear.

"Quite clearly, Iraq knew exactly what needed to be done," Spertzel said. "Their contract with the spray dryer company showed they knew what to go for and how to do it."

Although U.S. troops are inoculated against anthrax, a high enough concentration of anthrax spores still could make them sick, Tucker said.

"If you're exposed to a massive dose, it could overwhelm a vaccination," said Tucker, a senior fellow at the U.S. Institute of Peace.

Iraq has missiles that could carry biological weapons to Israel, Kuwait or U.S. troop concentrations within Iraq, Pentagon officials say.

Iraq also has experimented with turning small jet airplanes into remote-controlled drones. U.S. officials fear those drones could be fitted with spray tanks to deliver biological weapons.

"Iraq developed these drones because I think they realized their air force wouldn't be flying long if there was a war," Tucker said.


79 posted on 01/20/2003 12:37:54 AM PST by Wallaby
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To: Wallaby; *war_list; Free the USA; The Obstinate Insomniac; Libertarianize the GOP
Great info, thanks.

OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST

80 posted on 01/20/2003 12:46:30 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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