Saddam and al Qaeda the link we've all missed

David Rose | December 9, 2002 | David Rose

[swarthyguy]

When the Kuwaitis went back on their word to recompense Saddam for the Iranian campaign and started shenanigans with the oil fields on the two countries borders, Saddam was justifiably pissed.

After we saved the perverted swishy sheiks of Kuwait ( an American GI was tasked with rescrewing newly procured gold faucets in the royal palace) we abandoned the rebels of Iraq per orders from our masters, the Saudis, as conveyed to Papa Bush.

In a rational world, we'd have wasted the Saudi royals by now.

[swarthyguy]

>>SAddam is a secularist who is as distrusted by OBL

What, Saddam or Osama told you this?

Remember, before you buy the propaganda that is so useful in fooling naive linear thinking western minds, their hatred overrides all. They've been cooperating for a while -- Bodansky details that.

[WhiskeyPapa]

binLaden and Saddam will become allies as soon as the war begins, however.

We're at war now.

Walt

[aristeides]

OTOH, if Saddam agrees to go peacefully into exile, there'll never be any reason to tell the public the truth. That would just make it harder for them to accept his going into exile.

[WhiskeyPapa]

When the Kuwaitis went back on their word to recompense Saddam for the Iranian campaign and started shenanigans with the oil fields on the two countries borders, Saddam was justifiably pissed.

We (the USA) are now spending 50% of the money on defense world wide. I don't know what it was in 1990, but it was considerable.

I'm sure if we had applied the proper pressure back in that time frame, Saddam would have gotten the message, would not have attacked Kuwait, would not have tried to kill Bush Sr. back in '93 and would not have supported various other anti-American plots that are costing us plenty.

If all the people who've posted on this thread (maybe not you) think Saddam is not involved with 9/11, why are we getting ready to kick his butt and depose him?

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

In a rational world, we'd have wasted the Saudi royals by now.

They know that too.

Walt

[carton253]

Because you said so...

And you base the fact that Saddam and Bin Ladin wouldn't work together because one is secular and the other is fundamentalist.

Yet, Hamas doesn't have a problem working with either Iraq or the PLO (marxist organization). And just like the Islamic Brotherhood or Islamic Jihad doesn't have a problem working with the PLO.

Or... that in the 1970's and 1980's the Soviets were very involved in the training and constituting of these "fundmentalist groups."

No, they don't like each other based on a deep seeded animosity grounded in the fact that one is not religious enough for the other. And because of that, they would never, ever work against a common enemy.

You stick with that...

[carton253]

Bodansky details that.

I got "The High Cost of Peace" for Christmas. I've read some of it. It's a great book. I also have his "Target the West." I hear that his book on Bin Ladin is phenomenal. Which book have you read?

Dr. Laurie Mylroie's book "A Study of Revenge" provides the link impeccibly. Her research is faultless. I highly recommend this book.

[swarthyguy]

The Binladin book - awesome. I nned to get the other two from the library after it gets the new one.

Mylroie's is one i've missed but should probably catch up on.

[Wallaby]

"The reanalyzed C.I.A. material included the claim that Farouk Hijazi, one of the Mukhabarat's most senior agents, traveled to Afghanistan in 1998 to meet with Osama bin Laden, and details of journeys by two of the 9/11 pilots, Marwan al-Shehhi and Ziad Jarrah, to the United Arab Emirates, where they are said to have met with Iraqi intelligence officers. Both of these claims were first brought to light by the I.N.C. [Iraqi National Congress]."

"An Inconvenient Iraqi," David Rose, Vanity Fair, January 2003, p. 130.

[carton253]

Make sure you do! It is fantastic.

[carton253]

I'm going to have to get this month's issue of Vanity Fair.

[carton253]

You forget in your inane, marginally accurate, although wholly irrelevent list, the time that the Joker and CatWoman teamed up against Batman or when the "dawwwg" joined forces with little Chickenhawk to try to get Foghorn Leghorn.

My... aren't you clever...

[swarthyguy]

Heck, Osama hates the SaudiRoyals more than Saddam.

Secular? America helped with the jihadis to oust the Commies from Afghanistan.

Same jihadis except they hate us more than anyone else now, but we worked with them for a long time.

Politics (aka War) makes strange bedfellows (cliche alert!

[Campion]

This idea is nonsense and has been roundly refuted. Saddam is a secularist who is as threatened by OBL as the US and Saddam has no more use for OBL then he does for Pres. Bush (that is unitl the bombs start to fall and things change). Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11

Yeah, and Hitler was a white supremacist, so the idea that he was ever allied with Japan is preposterous nonsense.

Get your head out of the clouds. Saddam has been on a campaign of revenge against the US ever since Gulf War I. Al-Qaeda is his instrument. Why do you think al-Qaeda's chief cause celebre is getting US troops out of Saudi Arabia? What are those troops there for in the first place? Golly, could it be ... to defend against Iraq?

[WhiskeyPapa]

If Iraq WERE shown to be guilty of collusion to directly attack American interests (Anthrax Anthrax Anthrax...) then that would mean - gosh - Bush, Cheney, and (ohmygod) Rumsfeld were Right!

But they --weren't-- right!

Don't you recall the headlines from 9/TEN/01? Rumsfield was wailing about money for MISSILE DEFENSE being switched to anti-terrorism.

Just because the guy has a colonel carrying his brief case doesn't mean he knows squat. Rumsfield has shown us nothing yet. The rubber is about to meet the road though.

Walt

[woofie]

bump for later

[carton253]

Except for Bin Ladin and Saddam. Both have the same enemy. Both have the same goals. But somehow, these two can't lay aside their differences to defeat that enemy?

As the Arabs say, "me against my brother, my brother and me against my cousin, me, my brother, and cousin against the world."

Except for Bin Ladin and Saddam! No, no link there.