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1 posted on 01/11/2003 4:38:16 PM PST by madfly
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Democrats oppose the removal of Chavez...figures.
2 posted on 01/11/2003 4:41:45 PM PST by cake_crumb (And we should care about the blathering of Democrats because.....?)
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3 posted on 01/11/2003 4:42:05 PM PST by The Obstinate Insomniac
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The members of Congress included Reps. John Conyers of Michigan, Jesse Jackson Jnr. of Illinois, Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas and independent Rep. Bernie Sanders of Vermont.

Is this the Congressional axis of evil?

4 posted on 01/11/2003 4:45:36 PM PST by byteback
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5 posted on 01/11/2003 4:46:43 PM PST by madfly
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These 19 'lawmakers' of the US Congress broke existing US law (and their oaths of office) by sending a letter to Hugo Chavez criticizing the administration's policies concerning Venezuela. Reuters seems clueless about existing US law, separation of powers, "will of the people"...

Conducting Foreign Relations Without Authority: The Logan Act

Abstract: The Logan Act was intended to prohibit United States citizens without authority from interfering in relations between the United States and foreign governments. There appear to have been no prosecutions under the Act in its almost 200 year history. However, there have been a number of judicial references to the Act, and it is not uncommon for it to be used as a political weapon. Although attempts have been made to repeal the Act, it remains law and at least a potential sanction to be used against anyone who without authority interferes in the foreign relations of the United States.

10 posted on 01/11/2003 4:53:18 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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The members of Congress included Reps. John Conyers of Michigan, Jesse Jackson Jnr. of Illinois, Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas and independent Rep. Bernie Sanders of Vermont.

Communists in the house!
14 posted on 01/11/2003 5:05:41 PM PST by snippy_about_it
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helped give the impression that the United States welcomed the coup against Chavez, a populist who faces a long and bitter campaign to remove him from office

In the same way that Reuters stumbles over the use of the word "terrorist" to describe people who perpetrate terroristic acts, they just don't seem able to call Chavez, a Castro sympathizer and Communist sympathizer, a "Communist sympathizer", and instead label him a "populist". Another article, another lie, huh Reuters?

15 posted on 01/11/2003 5:07:17 PM PST by The Electrician
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The usual POS seditious polidiot trash .......good news is it was only 19 this time. We're winning ! Vote Vote Vote !!
16 posted on 01/11/2003 5:08:28 PM PST by Squantos (Stay Safe Ya'll !)
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the 18 Democrats and one independent (rueters forgets to mention sanders is a admitted socialist)

I am shocked I tell you just shocked
17 posted on 01/11/2003 5:09:37 PM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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Is there any confusion about why these RAT Congressional commies support other commies? What says Her Heinous?
18 posted on 01/11/2003 5:13:19 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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18 Democrats and one independent

I don't know why anybody should be surprised by this. Democrats have been supporting Communists for decades. In fairness, the Communists have also been supporting the Democrats. So it's not just a one way street.

The astonishing part of all this is nobody seems to care any more!

19 posted on 01/11/2003 5:21:01 PM PST by Gritty
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These Fifth-Column Democrats are the ones who want Korean nukes in Latin America.
20 posted on 01/11/2003 5:21:06 PM PST by houstonian
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An 'illegal ouster', sounds like what the Libs where trying to do to Lott............
23 posted on 01/11/2003 5:39:47 PM PST by Lockbox
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25 posted on 01/11/2003 5:41:13 PM PST by madfly
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Chavez lined up with Castro...Castro with China (COSCO/Hutchinson Whampoa Li Ka-shing Panama Canal's new managers...huge container ports in the Bahamas...large cargo plane airstrips etc)
Castro also with al-Qaeda and all their buddies...whose sole aim is the destruction of the USA
hey why wouldnt the dems be lined up with Chavez....
All their buddies are...
26 posted on 01/11/2003 5:45:05 PM PST by joesnuffy
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Venezuela is proof of the dangers of Democracy. Democracy is mob rule and that is more dangerous than even fascism. The only type of government that can survive and thrive is a limited government based on the rule of Law. A Republic.
27 posted on 01/11/2003 5:47:30 PM PST by xrp
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"Should an illegal coup take place again, ..."

As opposed to a legal coup? Morons in Government showing off their intellect.

30 posted on 01/11/2003 6:04:28 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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As assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere Affairs in April, Reich helped give the impression that the United States welcomed the coup against Chavez, a populist who faces a long and bitter campaign to remove him from office.

Populist? The man is an avowed COMMUNIST.

No spin here.

31 posted on 01/11/2003 6:07:31 PM PST by Carry_Okie (A faith in Justice, none in "fairness")
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Glad to see them go on record here, it'll haunt them good in about a week...

Middle of NEXT WEEK, possibly Jan 14, TSJ (Supreme Court, Venezuela) will announce...

- In 'Sala Electoral': Leonardo Pizani can not be member of CNE board (electoral authority), thus all recent decisions taken by the board with his participation are invalid. This blocks the non-binding Feb 2 referendum on whether or not Chavez should resign.

- In 'Sala Constitutional': The question put for referendum Feb 2 is not valid, thus Feb 2 referendum is also blocked through this way, just for redundant safety in numbers.

In addition, two more Supreme Court rulings are readied as well, but with less certain dates:

The detention of dissident G.N. general Carlos Alfonzo Martinez (without a warrant or any charges) is ruled "legal", and the general will stay under arrest.

Government intervention of private TV stations and media outlets is ruled "legal".

The situation in Venezuela can best be compared to post-colonial Africa, where the supreme courts of Marxist "Peoples Republics" allowed their ruling dictator and his party to do anything ... with the added danger to world stability that Venezuela is the third largest exporter of oil to the United States, and has billions of petro-dollars. And that the sympathetic Chavez regime, for that reason, is sought out by leftist terrorist groups and dictators as a secure source of financing and aid.

But, the big thing that'll bite them good, is that the active Chavez connection to international terrorists will be further confirmed next week, too, with another defector coming here, fresh from Chavez regime. See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/819790/posts for preview of the details of his testimony that'll really embarass those democrats big-time!

-Shane

33 posted on 01/11/2003 6:26:10 PM PST by shanec
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"In unusually blunt criticism, the 18 Democrats and one independent..."

Now this is a real surprise...NOT!

34 posted on 01/11/2003 6:26:11 PM PST by Redleg Duke
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