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Senate Democrats Think They Can Block Pickering
Reuters ^ | January 9, 2003 | Thomas Ferraro

Posted on 01/09/2003 1:29:17 PM PST by Dog Gone

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To: Kilborn
"The fact is Judge Pickering is supported by many African-American civil rights leaders in Mississippi - the people who know him best. Supporters of his confirmation include Charles Evers, brother of slain civil rights leader Medgar Evers, Michael Moore, the Democratic Attorney General of Mississippi, and Democrat Frank Hunger, Al Gore's brother-in-law.

"To slander a man as 'racially insensitive' who in Mississippi in the 1960s, testified against a leader of the KKK, who sent his children to public schools during the height of the desegregation battles, and who has worked to increase investment in the African-American community, is preposterous.

"Furthermore, Judge Pickering was unanimously confirmed to his current federal court position in 1990. Four senators currently on the Judiciary Committee, Senators Leahy, Kennedy, Biden, and Kohl, voiced no concerns about Judge Pickering in 1990. Their current hypocrisy in opposing Judge Pickering is nothing more than the callous political calculations of petty partisans at its worst.

"If we allow these disgusting tactics to prevail, Judge Pickering's accusers will be emboldened and future nominees will be viciously slandered and unfairly savaged. We must not allow the 'politics of personal destruction' to hijack the confirmation process. I urge Senate Republicans to force a floor vote using every procedural method at their disposal."

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41 posted on 01/09/2003 2:38:36 PM PST by TLBSHOW (End Affirmative Action)
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To: Dog Gone
Too bad the Republicans can't 'tack' something on to a nomination that would be political suicide for the Dems to vote down. It would be great to beat them at their own game.
42 posted on 01/09/2003 2:39:47 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: Puppage
I'd love to know which 'civil rights activists' are strongly opposing Pickering's nomination. As I recall, Pickering has strong support from blacks in Missippi, and they would know him better than anyone.
43 posted on 01/09/2003 2:41:26 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: dead
I'd love to see them filibuster the old way. Maybe we could arrange to get Ted Kennedy on TV reading "One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish."
44 posted on 01/09/2003 2:43:16 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: Molly Pitcher
why didn't they let it get out of the J. Committee for a vote on the floor

Because they didn't have to. It was easier to just kill it in committee. Filibusters can be very risky politically.

45 posted on 01/09/2003 2:46:03 PM PST by benjaminthomas
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To: BibChr
"...whose appointment is strongly opposed by civil rights activists"

Wow! Did you know that, Kevin? Apparently ALL "civil rights activists" oppose this guy — every last mother's son of them! ALL of them!

Reuters could just as easily have written "whose appointment is strongly supported by civil rights activists".

Like, for example, the former head of the NAACP chapter in Pickering's hometown:

But such comments carry little weight among those who actually know the man personally here in Laurel, in southeast Mississippi. Judge Pickering, now a federal district judge in the nearby city of Hattiesburg, was praised by black city officials for helping to set up after- school youth programs here, and for directing federal money to medical clinics in low-income areas when he was a state senator. Black business leaders say he was influential in persuading white-owned banks to lend money to black entrepreneurs, helping to strengthen the city's black middle class.

"I can't believe the man they're describing in Washington is the same one I've known for years," said Thaddeus Edmonson, a former local president of the N.A.A.C.P. who is now president of the seven-member Laurel City Council and one of its five black members. "If those people who are voting against him because of some press release would just come down here and talk to the people who know him, I think they would have a very different opinion."

The above passage is from http://www.aclj.org/news/judicialconf/020218_pickering_home_support.asp, which does a *spectacular* job of documenting how well-liked and admired Pickering is by those blacks who have known him for years, and the sort of vicious propaganda campaign that national "black" organizations are waging against him because he's not liberal.
Local leaders' support for Judge Pickering has put them at odds with several black state officials and the Mississippi conference of the N.A.A.C.P., which oppose his appointment. Bennie Thompson, a Democrat who represents the Delta region on the opposite side of the state in Congress, has called the judge's black supporters "Judases." State N.A.A.C.P. officials say the judge's supporters in Laurel have succumbed to an effort to cover up his feelings with small acts of kindness. This alternately angers and amuses local residents, who say no such masquerade can last for decades. "If he's been putting on a show for us, it's the greatest show on earth," said Mr. Thomas, who runs the city's only black-owned pharmacy and who served with Mr. Pickering on the local economic development board in the 1980's.
And:
Ralph Neas, president of People for the American Way, which is leading the opposition to the appointment, said many of the judge's supporters in Laurel simply did not know the full details of his record.
Note how condescending the national liberal groups are towards Pickering's black supporters...
46 posted on 01/09/2003 2:48:43 PM PST by Dan Day
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To: benjaminthomas
Yes, you're right. Thanks. I had a brain lapse and thought they had enough votes to knock it down without resorting to the filibuster.
47 posted on 01/09/2003 2:49:25 PM PST by Molly Pitcher (Will the Left ever go away??)
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To: dead; TLBSHOW
Ahh, selective reading syndrome. Look at my first three words: This Dem agrees!

My overall point is that this guy is small potatos and fighting over this guy puts us in a position that we have to fight everyone else, which got us in the predicament we're in now.

Just becuase I'm a Democrat doesn't mean I disagree with you on everything. Let him in and prove to us that he is worth the seat he is occupying. That's all.
48 posted on 01/09/2003 2:49:31 PM PST by Kilborn (Lighten up, Francis!)
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To: Kilborn
You don't have to get so touchy. You clearly implied that he was somehow unfit, and would eventually reveal that:

Let him through and he will shoot himself in the foot sooner or later.

I was wondering if there was something in his history that lead you to that conclusion.

49 posted on 01/09/2003 2:53:18 PM PST by dead
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To: Dog Gone
The Congressional Black Caucus, which helped topple Lott

Ridiculous.

Lott was changed because the Republicans decided it would be that way.....from the beginning of the episode all the way to the end.

50 posted on 01/09/2003 2:58:02 PM PST by xzins
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To: Zack Nguyen
Reuters needs to keep their bias out of this.

I'm left wondering if this slightly altered passage from the article could've been so inoccuously presented in a straightforward news piece:

"Republicans are calculating that the Willie Horton ad could enhance their credentials as allies of whites and undermine Democratic efforts to reach out to them."

Ya think?

51 posted on 01/09/2003 3:01:14 PM PST by winin2000
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To: Dog Gone
"Confirming many of these nominees ... could completely overturn the progress toward national reconciliation that our nation has made during the last 50 years," said Democratic Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the group's chairman. The caucus is composed of 39 members of the House of Representatives.

What progress?!! The very Lott gambit, the success of which has so encouraged these agitators and demagogues, shows that we have made no progress whatsoever towards national reconciliation. So long as one region of the United States is still pilloried for daring to have a different perspective, there is no reconciliation. Rep. Cummings apparently equates reconciliation with those who disagree with him forever shutting up and going away! That is not how others would define it.

As I predicted, the foolish way the Republicans inside the Beltway--including Senator Lott, himself--responded to the smear attack on Lott, is going to haunt us for some time to come. (See Anatomy Of A Smear.)

William Flax

52 posted on 01/09/2003 3:02:12 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Dan Day
Yes, I do notice that. Exactly right. This sort of tendentious, deceptive, demagogic propagandizing by the supposedly objective media (gag) just drives me apespit. Especially on this issue.

But I must say, the opposing forces (seem to me to) need to be louder and more unavoidable. It's one thing for pasty-white me to say, "Hey, he has a lot of black supporters!" Zero impact.

America needs to see THEM standing up and DEMANDING that pasty-faced Ralph Neas explain their ignorance to their faces. DEMANDING that pasty horrid old Leahy do the same. Ditto Durbin. Ditto Kennedy.

Dan
53 posted on 01/09/2003 3:08:21 PM PST by BibChr
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To: Ohioan; Dog Gone
The Clinton Justice Dept.'s Civil Rights Division let the two ringleaders of the cross burning case off with no jail time. The third man claimed he was drunk and had no hatred in his heart - chose to go to court - Judge Pickering's court. If anyone let racists off, it was the Clinton Justice Dept., but of course the DNC knows this, right?!:

Edwards's questions to Pickering concerned a 1994 case in which three men were accused of burning a cross in the front yard of a mixed-race couple in rural Jones County, Mississippi. Two of the defendants made plea-bargain deals with the Clinton Justice Department's Civil Rights Division; prosecutors agreed to let each man off without jail time (even though one of them had shot into the couple's home on an earlier occasion). The third defendant, a man named Daniel Swan, chose to go to trial, saying he was drunk at the time of the crime and was not motivated by racial hatred. Tried in Pickering's courtroom in United States District Court, Swan was found guilty of all counts, and Justice Department prosecutors wanted him to go to prison for seven and a half years.

But evidence that emerged during the sentencing phase of the trial suggested that one of the defendants who got off with no jail was not only the ringleader in the crime but also had a significant history of racial hatred, which is required for long sentences under the federal hate crime statute. There was far less evidence of racial animus on Swan's part; in fact, seven witnesses, both black and white, testified that they were not aware of any racial animus he might have held against black people. While Pickering did not object to sending Swan to prison - he was clearly guilty of taking part in the cross burning - the judge believed that the seven and a half year sentence was too severe, given that a more culpable co-defendant was given no jail time at all.

Pickering asked Justice Department lawyers whether the seven-and-a-half year sentence recommendation was consistent with department practice in other areas of the country. When weeks went by without an answer, Pickering phoned Frank Hunger, a friend from Mississippi who was also a top official in the Justice Department, to express his frustration. Nothing came of the conversation - Hunger told Pickering it wasn't his area of responsibility - but the call caught Edwards's attention.

"You made a telephone call to a high ranking Justice Department official, according to the information that we have," Edwards said, "And you are familiar, are you not, judge, with the Code of Judicial Ethics that applies to you? You are familiar with that, are you not?"

"I am," Pickering said.

"And are you familiar with Canon 3(a)(4) of that Code which says, 'except as authorized by law, a judge should neither initiate nor consider ex parte communications on the merits of a pending or impending proceeding' [The ex parte rule is intended to insure that judges do not make separate deals or in any way favor one side or the other]. Did you make a phone call to a high ranking Justice Department official on your own initiative?"

"We had had - "Pickering began to answer.

"Not 'we,'" Edwards interrupted. "You. Did you make this phone call?"

"I've indicated I called Mr. Hunger and discussed the fact that I was frustrated I could not got a response back from the Justice Department, and I thought there was a tremendous amount of disparity in this sentence."

"Were the government prosecutors on the phone when you made that call?"

"No, they were not."

"So that would be what we lawyers and judges would call an ex parte communication, would it not?"

"Well, whether the government attorneys had been on the phone or not, it would have been a question of whether the defense counsel had been on the phone," Pickering said.

"Was the defense counselor on the phone?" Edwards asked.

"No, we had discussed that with them, and this was a follow-up conversation as to what we had discussed with defense counsel present," Pickering said.

"Were any of the lawyers in the case on the phone when you called Mr. Hunger?" Edwards asked.

"No, they were not."

"So that was an ex parte communication, was it not?"

"It was."

"In violation of the Code of Judicial Conduct."

"I did not consider it to be in violation of the Code of Judicial Conduct."

"Well, could you explain that to me?" Edwards pressed. "The Code says you should 'neither initiate nor consider ex parte communications in a pending or impending proceeding.'"

It was something of a Perry Mason moment, at least as far as normally sedate confirmation hearings are concerned. But there was a problem. Edwards, perhaps following his trial lawyer's instinct as he moved in for the kill, misstated the Code he had read to Pickering just moments before. The Code says this: "A judge should...neither initiate nor consider ex parte communications on the merits, or procedures affecting the merits, of a pending or impending proceeding." [Italics added] Pickering clearly stated that he discussed his intentions with both sides in the case and that the call to Hunger was a "follow-up" to see if the Justice Department was going to respond to his questions. None of that touched on the merits of the case (a conclusion a number of legal experts came to when they examined Pickering's behavior in the case). In addition, Frank Hunger, a lifelong Democrat who also happens to be Al Gore's brother-in-law, told the Judiciary Committee there was nothing improper about that call, adding, "I have known Judge Pickering for nearly thirty years and have the utmost respect for him as a fair-minded judge who would never knowingly do anything improper or unethical." But it didn't matter; Edwards had made Pickering look guilty.

The Trials of John Edwards
54 posted on 01/09/2003 3:21:36 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (If Pickering has a mote in his eye - Edwards, the DNC, NAACP and PFAW have beams.)
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To: toenail
"Democrats like it when abortionists kill black babies; Pickering doesn't like it when abortionists kill black babies. That's all this fight is about."

BINGO!!!

55 posted on 01/09/2003 3:27:58 PM PST by Ditto
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To: Zack Nguyen
Reuters needs to keep their bias out of this. This bears no resemblance to the Lott episode at all. ....

yes, but it will by the time they are through with it.
56 posted on 01/09/2003 3:47:56 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: BibChr
Dan, I know you are all holy all the time and stuff...
but sometimes you just gotta step out and call these pukes what they are.. fat, white ASSES... as that is the symbol for their entire movement... the ASS that is.

you know, long ears, braying and lots of stink at one end... the one with the mouth... compared to that end, the tail smells like rosewater. It's their party symbol, dontcha know?

heh heh... "fat white butts" don't glory now and "lie against the truth" they are the party of the ass. and proud of it.
if we call them what they claim they are, "the brothers" will understand our meaning a lot more clearly.

It is amazing to me how so many blacks still obey their very same old massa's, and don't even realize it.
They love the chains I guess. Makes them feel all .... secure and such.
57 posted on 01/09/2003 4:03:43 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Black Ala. Lawmaker to Switch to GOP
Party Switch Gives Alabama Its First Black Republican Legislator in a Century

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/819917/posts

58 posted on 01/09/2003 4:05:27 PM PST by TLBSHOW (End Affirmative Action with a Executive Order Mr. President)
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To: TLBSHOW
priceless....

rolling on floor laughing my arse off... not much left either.
59 posted on 01/09/2003 4:10:09 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Sad stuff.

I hope FReepers are praying for Pickering successful re-nomination effort. God Bless him for being willing to undergo this again-and may God allow the distortions and wrongful smears to be exposed to all for exactly what they are....

Please send up a pray for Judge Pickering folks-and for the men and women who will vote over his nomination. We needs our Father's help in stopping this senseless and extremely hurtful smear process. Especially when it is so very unfounded.

And many hugs and kudos to our President for having the courage to do the right thing!

60 posted on 01/09/2003 4:20:44 PM PST by Republic
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