Sex runs rampant in the Catholic Church

Capitol Hill Blue ^ | January 9, 2003 | DOUG THOMPSON

[arj]

If Doug Thompson is Catholic, I suspect he is about to be excommunicated.

[2timothy3.16]

“For God’s sake, this is the Church. It is not a bordello,” exclaimed one priest involved in the investigation. “This is a crime against God.”

Yes, but so is preaching that a priest can interven to have ones sins forgiven.

[CedarDave]

Not enough sex and slease on Capitol Hill, Doug?

[LiteKeeper]

And so is preaching that God wants the clergy to be celebate. Paul writes to both Timothy and Titus, telling them that one of the qualifications for the leaders of the church is that they are to be the husband of one wife. Yes, Paul said it would be better that we were single as he was, but he recognized that marriage was a good thing to avoid temptation and sin.

Skew biblical teaching, in this case about sex and relationships, and you will see a skewing of lives. the Roman Catholic Church has not done anyone a favor by insisting on an unnatural state for its clergy!

[workerbee]

"Sexual abuse of nuns" is a far cry from consensual, albeit illicit, affairs. This author wraps it all in the same blanket. It's disgusting that these clergy seem to have so casually broken their vows -- equally so that their parishioners were involved as well. But this article seems more for titillation value than investigation of any "abuse", like the old stories of the underground tunnels between the convent and rectory...

[2right]

The cynic in me suspects the whole reason for this story is to counter the suspicion that all priests are gay.

[Hegewisch Dupa]

Amen brother! So either get it right or stop spreading Klannish hate speech.

[Capt. Tom]

It's almost enough to make you believe those stories the filthy hateful protestants have been spreading about the Catholic Church for years. - Tom

[eastsider]

"Sexual abuse of nuns" is a far cry from consensual, albeit illicit, affairs. This author wraps it all in the same blanket.

He sure does:

Wolf and the other researchers found 34,000 nuns who had been either sexually abused or engaged in sexual activity.

[VOA]

Sex runs rampant in the Catholic Church

It ain't just a Catholic thing.
A friend who was a campus minister for a "mainstream" Protestant church told me
that he had more than a few times where he had to evade advances by female congregants
(mostly young university students).

It's an occupational hazard, regardless of the religional organization.

[Cicero]

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

--Matthew 16:18-19

[Aliska]

40 percent sounds a little high to me in our country. I don't doubt that it has happened but I don't trust the survey either.

[Cicero]

Most of this stuff happened in the 1970s, when the Countercultural Revolution was in full swing. Many orders of nuns were being counseled by crazy psychiatrists, many orders were decimated, most religious habits were discarded, and tens of thousands left their orders.

It had nothing to do with Catholicism as such; it was a matter of surrendering to the secular culture. Of course the bishops are much to blame for their weakness and neglect in the face of these difficulties.

That was the time of the Woodstock Nation. It infected the Catholic Church badly, but of course it affected the other Churches as well, and non-Christians probably went off the deepest end of all, and have since suffered for it in broken and disillusioned lives.

[RayBob]

A nun wakes up, gets out of bed and dresses, and heads out of her room. In the hall she passes another nun and warmly greets her, only to get the reply "I see you woke up on the wrong side of the bed today."

Confused, she continues down the hall. Determined to be more cheerful, she warmly greets anonther nun, only to here the same reply, "I see you woke up on the wrong side of the bed today."

This continues throughout the morning. Finally, at her wits' end, she goes to the mother superior and tells her tale of woe. "All day long, no matter how cheerful, no matter how bright, every time I say hello to someone, they always look me in the eye and say sternly 'I see you woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.' I just don't understand it! Why would they do such a thing; why are they being so mean to me?" The Mother Superior sits down next to her to consol her and tells her "They weren't being mean to you. They were just pointing out that you are wearing Father's shoes!"

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

Yes, but so is preaching that a priest can interven to have ones sins forgiven.

You are incredibly ignorant of Scripture.

[CCWoody]

It's almost enough to make you believe those stories the filthy hateful protestants have been spreading about the Catholic Church for years. - Tom

You seem to be suggesting that if a Protestant makes a charge againts the RCC, whether true or not, then he is filthy and hateful. Perhaps you should apply the filthy and hateful label to the predators of the RCC who are actually pederasts and/or rapists and/or fornicators.

Woody.

[Steve_Seattle]

I attended a Jesuit college - Seattle University - between 1968 and 1972, and a classmate told me that he was once invited to dinner at a nun's apartment (she was a professor). When he arrived, she answered the door wearing a transparent orange neglige. She was quite busty, but otherwise homely. He was a good boy - or maybe just had good taste - so he kept his hands to himself, but it was quite a story.

[Steve_Seattle]

It's not that this sort of thing is unkown in Protestant denominations. In the Seattle area, there have been several notable scandals involving sexual misconduct by Protestant ministers. This stuff is also very common in New Age therapy circles, and even in Buddhist groups.

[ex-snook]

Catholic teaching says it is tough to be a Catholic. Some can't hack the sex prohibitions, priests and nuns included. But the Church considers sex outside of male-female marriage as sinful. It is not glossed over for acceptance by multiple TV shows, movies, media, the government and even other religions. The Catholic Church is still the rock that Jesus declared.

[crystalk]

Naughty, naughty, disingenous post.

Lower level church officers, such as deacons, were to be faithful married brethren, usually older...

For the church's real leaders, Paul made it very clear that they ought to be single as he was, and Timothy also was, and was so urgent about this that both the Roman and Greek churches have felt that all clergy or those over a certain level, must be totally unmarried and thus [unless they are swearing falsely before God]...celibate.