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A Few of FR's Finest....Every Day....01-09-03...Bush, Tax Cuts, and the *No-Vision-Thing* Democrats
JohnHuang2; Billie | JohnHuang2

Posted on 01/09/2003 6:21:51 AM PST by Billie




A Few of FR's Finest.....
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A Few of FR's Finest November 11, 2001

So many people have written me since my original Veteran's Day Tribute, asking how they, or a loved one, could be included in that tribute. Since I can no longer add the photos to the body of the thread, I've been including them in additional posts as I received enough to make another collage.

Still that doesn't seem to be enough. I think there's never been a better nor more appropriate time to keep the faces of our own Veterans and Active Military in front of FReepers--every day! That's why I wanted to do yet another Daily Thread .....ABOUT FReepers .....and FOR FReepers. But not only about our Military FReepers; for all FReepers! Wouldn't it be nice to get to know a few of the other FReepers as well? That's why, in addition to seeing FR's Finest Military Personnel every day, I thought it might be fun to feature a different FReeper (or FReepers) each day. If you would like to be pictured, or know someone who would, please FReepmail me and we'll turn the spotlight - on YOU - for the day!

And do let me know if you'd like your picture added to the groups of Veterans/Active Military below. I will keep this page updated, and continue to add them to the comment section of the original Veteran's Day thread as well.

TOP: Logos, SwedeGirl's hubby, Neil E Wright, FallGuy, 1John, Sneakypete
MIDDLE:  T'wit, COB1, LadyX, Dick Bachert, 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
BOTTOM:  YankeeinSC, Delta21, JoeSixPack1



TOP:  Bosniajmc, AFVetGal, Archy, A Navy Vet
MIDDLE:  4TheFlag, Aeronaut, 68Grunt, Xinga
BOTTOM:  Codger, AAABest, Clinton's A Liar, Duke809, dcwusmc



TOP:  mc5cents, Norb2569, LBGA's son, VanJenerette
MIDDLE:  Jim Robinson, KJenerette, davidosborne, KG9Kid
BOTTOM:  gwmoore, Equality7-2521, SAMWolf



TOP:  porgygirl, Phil V., MudPuppy, NorCoGOP
MIDDLE:  RaceBannon, OneidaM, rdb3, jwTexian
BOTTOM:  USMC Vet, TheMayor, Vineyard, rhododogma



We now have eleven groups of veterans/active military; we will post each group of three or four twice a week, with thumbnail/links of the remaining seven or eight groups on each thread. Click on any of the thumbnails below to see the group full-size.

         

GROUP 5A: TOP:  spectr17, RightOnline, SERE_Doc, Tet68. MIDDLE:  FutureSnakeEater, RightOnline's wife, CIApilot, Clamper1797. BOTTOM:  usmcobra, onedoug, DiverDave, Joe6-pack.
GROUP 6A: TOP:  g'nad, AgThorn's son Justin, SLB, AgThorn's son Brett. MIDDLE:  fish70, razorback-bert, CheneyChick, Leroy S Mort, Mark17. BOTTOM:  Terry's Take, Taxman, DinkyDau.
GROUP 7A: TOP:  ValerieUSA's son Grant, SK1Thurman, kd5cts, RangerVetNam, dansangel and .45man's son-in-law Tony.BOTTOM:  rangerX, Old China Hand, Trish, Howlin's dad, Mustang.
GROUP 8A: TOP: ohioWfan's son, MamaBear's father-in-law, MamaBear's dad, ladtx. MIDDLE:  The Mayor's niece, M.Kehoe, Beach_Babe's son-in-law. BOTTOM:  deadhead's dad, HiJinx, Severa's hubby, viligantcitizen's granddad.
      

GROUP 9A: TOP: Q6-God, Scan59, Mama Bear and JKPhoto's son, ofMagog. MIDDLE:  Big'ol_freeper, JustAmy's great uncle, Prodigal Son. BOTTOM:  JustAmy's husband, JustAmy's brother-in-law, JustAmy's brother.
GROUP 10A: TOP: dakine's wife, MeeknMing's dad, Auntbee's nephew, MilitiaMan7, AlasBabylon. BOTTOM:  Joe Brower, Temple Owl, Temple Owl's wife, dutchess' dad, Aomagrat.
GROUP 11A: TOP: ladtx #2 son; DiverDave's twin Don; petuniasevan and husband poorman; Mustard; ladtx #1 son. BOTTOM: AlamoGirl's brother Floyd; AG's dad; AG's brother Jim (inset); WVNan's husband; ladtx' Aunt Eva.




                     








Bush, tax cuts, and the *No-Vision-Thing* Democrats

by JohnHuang2

Bush's plan -- bold, audacious, daring, gritty, ambitious -- will do more than light a fire underneath the economy: If adopted, it holds colossal, far-reaching implications politically, enough to reshape the landscape for generations. Tax-and-spend Democrats know it, and it's why they're reacting (or pre-acting) with frenetic, delusional, mad-as-a-hatter hysterics.
So why is Bush driving them wacky Democrats wackier still?
The White House proposal, which calls for eliminating taxes on stock dividends for individual investors, doing away with unfair double-taxation altogether, is by far the stimulus plan's gutsiest, most aggressive ingredient, one which threw media pundits -- even some advisors -- completely for a loop, and, despite the shrill, panicky 'Tax-breaks-for-the-rich!' mantra shrieks from class-war Democrats and media marionettes, will resonate with Americans across the political spectrum, in all walks of life.
That's right -- all walks of life.
Bush's much-anticipated speech, delivered Tuesday afternoon from Chicago, was more than just agenda-setting, it was a powerful, dynamic, tour-de-force proclamation of Vision -- Bush's vision, a manifesto bursting with hope and resilience, flushed with promise and expectation. The bubbly optimism flowing gracefully from Bush's *recapture-our-destiny* spirit in his message was downright infectious. The address was, plain and simply, vintage America, embodying all the core values, the principles and ideals, the virtues and mores which gives America its gloriously unique place in this world.
If Americans share one thing in common it's the belief in the basic dignity of the individual and that, through hard work, perseverance and effort, everyone has a fair shot at 'making it' -- no, no guarantees, just plenty of opportunities for success to all willing to seize them. In America, stick-to-itiveness isn't just an attitude, it's ingrained in our very make-up.
That's the President's plan. Besides its *grow-the-economy*, sweeping investor-class provisions, other features of the tax-relief package include making the child tax credit more generous, accelerating the phase-out of the 'marriage penalty' tax, accelerating the phase-in of the 2001 income tax-cuts, large rebate checks for middle-class families, re-employment accounts of up to $3,000 and extending unemployment benefits.
All told, the President's plan, if enacted, amounts to a 10-year, $674 billion shot-in-the-arm for the economy, which, notwithstanding the gloom-and-doom reportage, grew a respectable 3% average rate this past year. Not bad, given the corporate-sleaze-driven stock market collapse, looming war in Iraq, and, of course, the lingering impact of 9/11.
The President, flush from a resounding midterm victory and fresh mandate, enters the second half of his term in total command of the agenda, with majorities in both houses of Congress, sky-high approval ratings and a floundering opposition party in full retreat. Democrats -- stumbling, staggering, blundering along -- still don't quite know what hit 'em November 5.
Party leaders, reeling from the shock, unable to grasp the extent of the blow, can't chart a comeback or set a new direction. Their implacable, insatiable hatred for Bush, who's out-maneuvered them at every turn, is a total turn-off for voters who still give this President extraordinarily high marks on performance and bonded with him personally.
For the haters, nothing -- absolutely nothing -- seems to 'work'. Enron, corporate scandal, melt-down on Wall-Street, vanishing 401k(s), "sagging" economy, the "failure" to produce Osama bin Laden -- all have failed to gain Democrats any traction.
Democrat strategists are especially worried. With Republicans now buoyantly in full control of Capitol Hill, and scowling Democrats more divided than ever, such popular measures as expanding prescription drug coverage to Medicare beneficiaries, an issue Democrats have used to hammer opponents with in campaigns, may actually pass and get enacted into law, depriving Democrats of yet another potent weapon.
They view with horror the prospects of economic recovery, boosting Bush's re-election chances, thus their stink-in-the-nostrils spleen over his sweeping tax package. Even the thought of falling unemployment, a raging bull market and a booming economy in '04 makes their blood run cold.
At a more fundamental level, and compounding their problems further, Democrats seem fixated with process.
Indeed, with Democrats, process is everything. Cutting taxes is no good, because the "wealthy" might benefit. War against Iraq is no good, unless it gets U.N. backing. And even with U.N. backing, removing Saddam from power is no good unless we use force against North Korea. No military action against Kim Jong-Il means we're being 'inconsistent' and if being 'consistent' here means sparking a bloodbath on the Korean peninsula, well, so-be-it. 'Consistency' is more important! (Notice the absurd self-refutation of that last 'point': Democrats claim they can't fathom why Bush is willing to apply force in Iraq, where the risks of mass casualties, both among U.S. troops and civilians, are lower, but not as willing to use force in North Korea, where the risks of mass slaughter -- carnage of unspeakable dimensions across-the-board -- are perilously higher. Small wonder Americans, on matters of security and defense, don't generally take Democrats seriously.
But all those are 'process' questions.
Why the liberal obsession with process? Because, simply stated, Democrats lack vision -- that is, they lack a compelling paradigm or model by which to forge constructive solutions to problems.
On tax policy, the Democrat *no-vision-thing* approach surfaces as divisive class-warfare, pitting income-groups against each other. Capitalism, rather than a dynamic engine of prosperity and growth, is really nothing more than an "evil", rich-against-poor conspiracy, a scheme which primarily benefits the "wealthy" and corporations, liberals hiss.
No-vision, process-driven Democrats can't -- or won't -- debate ideas on their merits. Instead, they hurl accusations. Issues are framed around the notion of power and the struggle for power.
Bush's tax cuts? 'Ha!', liberals scoff. They're only a sop to "wealthy" contributors! Bush is a crook, and that tax-cut package of his is a fancy-shmancy kick-back 'scheme' for "rich" buddies, they'll tell you. It never occurs to these sociopaths that Bush might genuinely believe offering private-sector incentives is ipso-facto good policy -- no way, no how, 'Bush's a crook!', they scream.
Outgoing Senate "Majority Leader" Tommy Daschle, responding to Bush in a weekend radio address, demeaned all dividend earners as the "wrong people".
Quick -- when you say *tax cuts*, what's another typical initial liberal reaction? After a 'Dracula-eyes-crucifix' convulsion, they'll blurt out words like 'deficits!', 'fiscally irresponsible!', 'risky!' -- but not a word about growing the economy nor job creation.
Again, process -- not the big picture -- is everything to *No-Vision-Thing* Democrats.
Yet, interestingly, under the Bush proposal, an average, middle-class family gets much bigger/quicker tax relief than under any Democrat plan.
By the way, I find it hilarious watching Democrats, who not long ago vowed repeal of Bush's 2001 Tax Relief Act, do such a brazen 180 -- a testament to Bush's prowess at setting the agenda.
Democrats, in this sense, remind me of Saddam Hussein.
Only under pressure from Bush did Saddam allow the return of U.N. weapons inspectors -- he would never do it voluntarily. And only under pressure from Bush are Democrats now offering tax relief -- they would never do *that* voluntarily.
The Democrat rival "plan", in this vein, is like Saddam's 12,000-page weapons "declaration" -- lots of smoke and mirrors, too many gaps and omissions. Democrats had, like Saddam, a chance to 'come clean', put constructive solutions on the table. They failed miserably, and voters will, politically, hold them in *Material Breach.*
Meanwhile, the Democrat presidential campaign is off and running -- or is it? Alas! the crop of White House hopefuls resemble more the Return of the Living Dead, than anything. These guys make the Seven Dwarfs look 10 feet tall.
Indeed, things have gotten so bad, some tin-foilers may start to wonder if some of these clowns are secretly on the White House payroll. The problem with that theory is that, when it comes to self-immolation, Democrats rarely need assistance.
This is, after all, the party which just elected a certifiable wingnut, who didn't think the Soviets went far enough, as the face of their party in the House. And she hails from San Francisco, to boot. This is, moreover, the party whose idea of 'moderation' boils down to 'heavy petting' 2 instead of 5 interns.
The Democrat Field -- if you build it, you'll be sorry
Gebhardt, oops, Gephardt, flameout from '88, has raised many eyebrows, especially among voters who notice that, well, the Missouri Dem doesn't have any eyebrows. Announcing he's forming an exploratory committee this week, Gephardt accuses Bush of 'failing' to provide leadership. This from the doofus who just got canned from his "leadership" post in the House for, er, failing to lead. The party's *Minority* status, under *Minority Leader* Gephardt, just kept shrinking and shrinking.
Blink-o-rama-Millionaire-Regular-Guy John Edwards bombs again. His interview Sunday with George Stephanopoulos on ABC's This Week was as bad -- or worse -- than the Meet The Press fiasco several months ago. This, despite the flurry of softballs from Georgy boy.
I chuckle at reports these Lilliputians will increasingly "challenge" Bush on national security/the War on Terror -- making it a major theme of campaign 2004.
Yep, I can just see it now:
Yeah, so what if Dubya defeated Saddam in 30 days -- big deal! We Democrats could wrap it up in 20!
So what if John Ashcroft nabs 1,500 terrorists -- Big deal! We Democrats would have 1,600 by now!
So what that Bush toppled the Taliban in 3 weeks -- Big deal! We Democrats could do it in 2!
Folks, you know a party is in trouble when strategists ask people, 'who is leading the Democrat Party today?' and Mullah Omar tops the list of responses.
Anyway, that's...
My two cents..










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To: LadyX
Glad you liked it Lady. The picture above is another Frederic Church painting.
121 posted on 01/09/2003 4:35:15 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: Aquamarine; Mixer
What a beautiful song Aqua...Mixer, just perfect for your wedding...Like the Frank Church picture too and really liked the one you posted earlier of the lilacs...I love lilacs...
122 posted on 01/09/2003 5:26:42 PM PST by daisyscarlett (Did your company leave already or did you sneak away to "check your mail"..hee hee)
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks for bringing our attention to the Babar doll...Those calendar pages always have such great detail in them....
123 posted on 01/09/2003 5:28:58 PM PST by daisyscarlett (Thanks again for being such a gracious guest yesterday...)
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To: dutchess; dansangel
Hi dutchess and dansy. I am late getting here today......and was a complete no-show yesterday. I feel bad about that, but can't be helped sometimes. *sigh* :-(

I haven't had a chance to read the thread or John's essay yet, but, I got your mail, dutchess.....and your's too, dansy, and I thought I would jump onto the thread for a second and give you both a warm bear hug......., cuz you're both special. :-)


124 posted on 01/09/2003 5:33:38 PM PST by Mama_Bear (...but, you can call me Lori.)
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To: dutchess
Maybe W has Zell Miller and some other dems who will vote for his economic plan?
125 posted on 01/09/2003 5:34:21 PM PST by daisyscarlett (Snow, McCain and Chaffee are bozos!!!)
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To: FreeTheHostages
That couple from Maine-unbelieveable...Hope they get some jail time for this little caper....
126 posted on 01/09/2003 5:36:18 PM PST by daisyscarlett (Wonder if they are Libs???)
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To: LadyX
Good to see ya today....
127 posted on 01/09/2003 5:37:58 PM PST by daisyscarlett (Missed you yesterday...Hope you were off having fun, fun, funS!!!(I love these tag lines, hee hee))
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To: Mama_Bear
Great big bear hugs back at ya, Mama_Bear!

{{{{{{{{{{{{Mama_Bear}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

128 posted on 01/09/2003 5:39:52 PM PST by dansangel
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To: dutchess
I really messed up with the tag lines yesterday....Forgot to erase one and it just hung on and on to every post I made and was totally inappropriate most of the time....Talk about duh!
129 posted on 01/09/2003 5:40:05 PM PST by daisyscarlett
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To: daisyscarlett; Billie
Hi you two! I can only stay for a second, but wanted to come by and say hello and apologize for being a no-show yesterday. I am going to do my best to be around tomorrow. I think my day will be fairly clear.

Hope you both have a nice evening. I'll see you tomorrow. :-)
130 posted on 01/09/2003 5:40:20 PM PST by Mama_Bear (...but, y'all can call me Lori.)
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To: dutchess; iceskater
I heard just a little bit of Rush today. He named the 11 richest Senators in office and nine out of 11 were Dems, with Kerry heading the list. Course he married all that 600+ million bucks he has!!! (I never buy Heinz catsup anymore, have switched to Hunt's)And Maria Cantwell was on the list. I thought she lost all her money and Hillary had to do a fundraiser for her last year to cover her campaign expenses?

The rest of the time I listened to him it was mostly about football and his birthday coming up this weekend. He is so thrilled with Bush's proposal and the way he delivered his last two speeches...

131 posted on 01/09/2003 5:44:47 PM PST by daisyscarlett (The lovely and gracious Marta is a football fan, just like Rush!!!)
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To: Aquamarine
Hi Aqua. Good song, I have it on my profile page, too.

Thanks for the ping.

132 posted on 01/09/2003 5:48:17 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Mama_Bear
Hi Lori...good to see you....and look forward to seeing you tomorrow, too. I will be here, but later in the day as I have to go sailing-"estate sale-ing"-early in the a.m.
133 posted on 01/09/2003 5:52:25 PM PST by daisyscarlett
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To: ofMagog
Glad to see you today....I have something for you...


134 posted on 01/09/2003 5:56:55 PM PST by daisyscarlett (Thanks for stopping by....)
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To: dansangel
Hi there East Coast sistah...You still up? Only one more day of work this week for you...bet you are not disappointed about that!....
135 posted on 01/09/2003 6:03:23 PM PST by daisyscarlett (Dinner time on the left coast-gotta go now and have some chile!)
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To: daisyscarlett
It was just an old friend of my husband's and they have been in and out all day shooting at things out in the woods (squirrels, I think). I'm just keeping them fed. :)
136 posted on 01/09/2003 6:15:22 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Your profile page looks nice. You've upgraded it some since the last time I looked.
Would you like to do mine?.....(just kidding:)))
137 posted on 01/09/2003 6:27:17 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: Aquamarine
Would you like to do mine?

Sure! That would be fun. :-)

Thanks so much, Aqua. You're too kind.

138 posted on 01/09/2003 6:45:34 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Billie; Aquamarine; JustAmy; SpookBrat; AntiJen; MistyCA; All
Hello, everyone!

Just a quick moment of your time...those who know me will understand this post FULLY. They can explain the signifigance to the rest.

Mrs. Cut and I will be welcoming our first baby into the world in July!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We waited to tell anyone, even our parents, because of...difficulties we have had before. Many FReeper's kind words and thoughts got us through that. GUESS WHAT...it paid off!

She is now 14 weeks along, the child is quite healthy, according to the Doc, and we are through the first trimester, which I'm told is the dangerous time.

Thanks to everyone here who wished us well, and sent prayers. You opened your hearts to us, a simple military family, simply out of love and caring. A greater gift, you could give not.

My best regards and thanks,
Pete.


139 posted on 01/09/2003 7:48:13 PM PST by Long Cut (soon to be "DADDY"!)
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To: Billie; All
This must be an issue in "04". Keep it going.


SOCIAL SECURITY: (This is worth the read. It's
short and to the point.)

Perhaps we are asking the wrong
questions during election years.

Our Senators and Congressmen do
not pay into Social Security and,
course, they do not collect from it.
Social Security benefits were not
suitable for persons of their rare
elevation in society.

They felt they should have a special
plan for themselves. Many years ago
they voted in their own benefit plan.
In more recent years, no
congressperson has felt the need to
change it. After all, it is a great plan.

For all practical purposes their plan
works like this When they retire, they
continue to draw the same pay until
they die, except it may increase from
time to time for cost of living
adjustments. For example, former
Senator Byrd and Congressman
White and their wives may expect to
draw $7,800,000.00 (that's Seven
Million, Eight-Hundred Thousand),
with their wives drawing $275,000.00
during the last years of their lives.
This is calculated on an average life
span for each.

Their cost for this excellent plan is
$00.00.

Nada.Zilch.

This little perk they voted for
themselves is free to them. You and I
pick up the tab for this plan. The
funds for this fine retirement plan
come directly from the General
Funds-our tax dollars at work!

>From our own Social Security Plan,
which you and I pay (or have paid)
into-every payday until we retire
(which amount is matched! by our
employer)--we can expect to get an
average $1,000 per month after
retirement.

Or, in other words, we would have to
collect our average of $1,000.
monthly benefits for 68 years and
one (l) month to equal Senator Bill
Bradley's benefits!

Social Security could be very good if
only one small change were made.
And that change would be to jerk the
Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from
under the Senators and
Congressmen. Put them into the
Social Security plan with the rest of
us and then watch how fast they
would fix it.

If enough people receive this, maybe
a seed of awareness will be planted
and maybe good changes will evolve.
How many people can YOU send this
to?
Or will you just read this and ignore
your rights, saying what good would
it do? That's what most people will
do.....NOTHING!
140 posted on 01/09/2003 8:11:39 PM PST by Dubya
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