Posted on 01/08/2003 5:52:45 PM PST by TLBSHOW
Why black conservatives are maligned
TNA News with Commentary Thursday 1 February 2001
Bryant Pearson, writing in The Black Turncoat Forum BBS, asks why conservative blacks are so maligned simply for having a point of view different from the ‘normal’ black person. He wrote: “When we conservative blacks speak up for what we believe why are we treated like we’ve done something wrong. I believe that we have a shot to change how blacks in America will vote in 4 years if we get together and work hard at changing the minds of many in our community.”
Bryant, we are maligned because all liberals instinctively feel that no black person is capable of such independent thought or activity. When we encounter a liberal black, he succumbs to the playground mentality and thinks of us as self hating Uncle Toms or just ‘acting white’. If that doesn’t reveal how he really feels about independent minded blacks, nothing does.
They are actually envious of our ability to develop and articulate ideas, philosophies and actions apart from the ‘normal’ black culture, and must try to make themselves more important by trying to make us less relevant. Even white liberals, when opposed by conservative blacks, tend to think of us as ‘fronts’ for some white person or group, or they consider us as tokens. Worst of all, they consider liberal blacks as needing ‘leaders’. I have never heard anyone mention a white leader or a black conservative leader.
The fact is neither black nor white conservatives need leaders, and the same for white liberals, but black liberals do, and most people think that all blacks do. This is the myth initiated by white liberals and perpetuated by black ones. What we black conservatives must do is become proactive in spreading the conservative message. We must speak and act ahead of the curve, before someone else has begun the battle that we know must be joined long before they do.
We must not only let blacks know that we are here and we are viable, but we must let everyone know that not all of us dance to the same tune as played by the race hustling poverty pimps, otherwise known as black leaders. If you look at the ‘leaders’ in the white community, you see many individuals with leadership skills acting together to achieve a common goal. There is no one particular ‘leader’, other than the one(s) chosen by the participants themselves to run the show, whereas black liberals will accept whatever loudmouth or show off who declares himself or is declared by the media as ‘black leader’ (read my own declaration written in 1994).
The at large conservative community, black and white has many leaders, each with his or her own special contribution to the effort.
Black liberals are quite content to sit by and watch someone else take the initiative, fight the battle, and tell us all about it in the process. Black conservatives must take care not to allow others to take the initiative for a battle that we must lead, and that is the battle to establish ourselves as not just followers of some white guy who is fighting for us. If we fall into that trap, then we are no different from the black liberals, which puts all of us into the same boat, which is that none of us are capable of carrying our own weight in our own battle.
*Stephen Frazier runs the very politically incorrect The Black Turncoat Forum site.
You're right on in what you are saying. But it's not just the black community they foist a leader on, it's women and gays and hispanics and on and on...
It all goes back to the fact that they cannot think for themselves so they need a "spokesman" to feed them the official stance of the party. IOW, liberals need someone to tell them how to act in all situations. Pitiful.
It would be insulting to anyone who is being courted.
Many feel that blacks "owe it to themselves" to vote Pubbie - but you have to realize that their votes have to be courted much as any other group would be.
One of the major questions that will be asked by a more thoughtful individual - black or otherwise - is "what is in in for me?" and by that, I don't mean what kind of money will you give me; there are a lot of folks who figure that most blacks want that in the form of handouts and all, because that's what the Dems have used to try to entice poor inner-city blacks. What is meant by that question is simply, "What benefit will I gain by voting Republican?" And we have the same answer to give them that we give to everyone else: Lower taxes, family values, honest and open support, safe streets, better schools... By being open, honest and forthright, and by not pandering, we will gain those votes and that support.
If my garbage is not picked up, then I have a concern. It doesn't matter what color I am or where I live. If the police are not providing quality service and protection, I have a concern. Color and location are not material to the concern. If I feel my taxes are too high, I have a concern, color and location notwithstanding.
All we have to do is to reenforce the fact that we stand for making all of those things better for everyone.
It's pretty simple, really.
We must not only let blacks know that we are here and we are viable, but we must let everyone know that not all of us dance to the same tune as played by the race hustling poverty pimps, otherwise known as black leaders. If you look at the ‘leaders’ in the white community, you see many individuals with leadership skills acting together to achieve a common goal. There is no one particular ‘leader’, other than the one(s) chosen by the participants themselves to run the show, whereas black liberals will accept whatever loudmouth or show off who declares himself or is declared by the media as ‘black leader’ (read my own declaration written in 1994).
Right on FRiend! As a someone with Irish/ Norwegian roots, I don't look for a Celtic person to be my spokesman. Why should blacks be any different?
As individuals, blacks have as diverse an ancestry as any white European, so why should anyone try to presume to represent them as a group?
Granted, before civil rights laws, a case could be made for representation based on skin color, but it no longer makes any sense.
Individuality and individual rights ARE the key to conservatism, and exactly why liberals look at blacks as a group. Truth be known, liberals hate individuality.
Have YOU thought about running for office?....sounds like a fine Genesis of a platform.
Me? I'll admit that I've thought of it, but I wouldn't know where to begin, honestly.
LOL! Hey mh, that is a funny byline! It sounds like something Walter Williams would say.
"If my garbage is not picked up, then I have a concern. It doesn't matter what color I am or where I live.'
It's the little things in life that reveal how we as individuals all have many of the same concerns. Good example.
Contrary to conventional wisdom, those few blacks who do vote Conservative or Pubbie (by default) are not simply the wealthier ones (with fiscal concerns)but rather tend to be the more genuinely religious ones who prefer the traditional values planks of the Christian right wing on the Pubbies. Sort of funny if you think about it."
Well, you are dead center here.
Minority voting groups will sway the outcomes of national elections more than ever in the near future elections.
It will take nothing short of a miracle to sway the Black vote away from generational habits and indoctrination of always (and only) voting Democrat.
I don't know what that "significant event" might be (and neither does anyone else - or if you do, please speak up).
Speaking of minority voters, the Mexican-American voter will soon carry more political muscle than either party thought possible - 20% of the total by 2010.
Blacks (and everyone else) need a clear choice. The best way to attract more voters to Republican tickets is to keep the GOP on a conservative track clearly rejecting socialism for what it is. People who think will be attracted, people who 'feel' will not.
Conservatives should stick to leading individual people to success and forget about leading groups.
That is absolutely true. What I don't get is why they allow it. Why are they not insulted by it? Wouldn't you be?
Facts is facts.
Dubya has put his mouth in action by such appointments as Condie Rice and Colin Powell.
Blacks insist these two are just being used by whitey.
I disagree. I could never be prouder of the jobs these two have done (except Powell is a little too PC for me).
When you look at who is aspiring to run for President from the Black community (Sharpton to Explore Presidential Bid) there isn't much of a choice.
Blacks haven't voted anything but Democrat in over sixty years (or more) and that trend has stygmatized them IMHO in a negative light.
But, if one looks back from the day that Martin Luther King, Jr.'s "I Have A Dream" speech in Washington D.C. almost forty years ago, Blacks have indeed progressed immensely both economically and socially over this period.
Yep, but sadly not politically. I think that is starting to change and I am so thankful for the fine people on this forum that are black. It gives me a great deal of hope and suggests to me that there are far more out there than we are led to believe and that the time may soon be coning when the RATS will have a to work a bit harder for their votes.
Sounds like a winner to me, but apparently not all people are enough into the process to even know what separates the parties. I work with a lot of blacks and when the subject comes up, they don't want to talk about it. One of these ladies I have tried inviting to one of our FR meetings. She won't go because she says she isn't interesterd in politics. Another who I have talked to at some length agrees with me on virtually everything, but she still votes democrat. Go figure.
And one thing that makes so little sense to me is that most blacks I know and have ever known are strong, Bible-reading Christians, and I fail to understand how anyone can be a Christian AND a democRAT. They seem mutually exclusive to me.
I realize that apathy infects people of all races. One has only to look at the percentage of registered voters to the population and the percentage of actual voters of eligible voters to know that. But even among those that vote "religiously" there seems incredible ignorance and it seems to be an ignorance that is chosen. It just seems that people who vote should be responsible enough to know what it is they're voting for, but then part of the RAT strategy seems to be to prevent education at any level.
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