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To: JZoback
Maybe the girl was in pain. Maybe she realized they weren't using birth control. Maybe she 'consented' at first due to a fear of the boy. Under any of these scenarios, a minute and a half is a very long time and it's a very long time for him to be 'doing his thing' knowing the girl told him to stop.....that is rape.
24 posted on 01/06/2003 7:00:03 PM PST by Born in a Rage
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To: Born in a Rage
...knowing the girl told him to stop.....that is rape.

She apparently said no such thing. Perhaps if she wanted him to stop, she could have told him explicitly to STOP! By her own admission, she used ambiguous language....I should go home.....or I should leave.

The law has convicted a 17 year old boy of a serious felony and branded him as a sex offender for life for having sex with a girl who gave her permission and then during the act said "I should go home."

We now live an Alice in Wonderland existence where common sense and logic have little application. All events are viewed through the looking glass of Political Correctness which must be acheived at all costs, as it is all that matters.

34 posted on 01/06/2003 7:12:40 PM PST by San Jacinto
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To: Born in a Rage
'doing his thing' knowing the girl told him to stop.....that is rape.

The key point being that she "told him to stop" which it appears she did not. She said something about maybe I should possibly be going home maybe or something like that.
36 posted on 01/06/2003 7:13:41 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Born in a Rage
Now let's hear the testimony of the boy telling the court that he is hard of hearing-- the political correct mantra is that the disability backers need to focus on their input... he might be a victim here. Statutory rape is a serious charge against her.
39 posted on 01/06/2003 7:17:28 PM PST by Mark
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To: Born in a Rage
And maybe none of that happened and she just changed her mind in the middle of INTERCOURSE. A guy with a girl who originally consented and they were going at it--90 seconds is not a long time. Who would take anyone seriously if you are in the middle of the sex act? Did he even understand what she was saying on the verge of a climax? I've got to get home, may not mean, I don't really want to have sex anymore, but I have to get home before my parents find out I snuck out. Not really a protest of the actual sex, but the consequences of sneaking out or being out late. I wonder why it's so easy for you to take what the girl says as fact vs. what the boy says. I can remember being a teenager and these on again, off again type of romances which included sexual intercourse. Girls can be very viscious and vengeful and manipulative, particularly emotionally(which imo means they could play a legal angle to the hilt) and are inclined, in my experience, to use manipulative tactics(like lying) to get themselves out of trouble. BTW, I am female, but I don't have the faith in womankind telling the truth as much as you do.
43 posted on 01/06/2003 7:23:07 PM PST by glory
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To: Born in a Rage
Read it again. She never told him to stop. She said, "I should be going now."

By the court's logic, if they were driving around in his car, and she said the same thing, he would be guilty of kidnapping if he took ninety seconds before turning around and heading toward her house.

49 posted on 01/06/2003 7:33:41 PM PST by per loin
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To: Born in a Rage
I must be missing something. Didn't she say, "I need to be going" or something to that effect? I don't think she ever said "stop" or something definitive like that.

It has now been legislated that men are supposed to be able to read women's minds.
50 posted on 01/06/2003 7:34:49 PM PST by M. Peach
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To: Born in a Rage
Maybe... Maybe... Maybe...

Maybe the girl was paid to frame the guy.
Maybe she was mad at him because he looked at some other girl earlier in the evening.
Maybe she already had her "O" and was now bored.

Maybe... Maybe... Maybe...

68 posted on 01/06/2003 8:03:33 PM PST by Jeff Gordon
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To: Born in a Rage
The problem is that she never clearly told him to stop. Mumbling something like "I need to go home" does not constitute withdrawing consent any more than saying "I don't need to go home" is consent for sex.
210 posted on 01/08/2003 3:07:42 AM PST by xm177e2
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