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NASA Unsure of How to Counter the 'Moon Hoax'
The Associated Press ^ | January 5th 2003 | MARCIA DUNN

Posted on 01/05/2003 5:06:37 PM PST by ContentiousObjector

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Is that the moon or a studio in the Nevada desert? How can the flag flutter when there's no wind on the moon? Why can't we see stars in the moon-landing pictures?

For three decades, NASA has taken the high road, ignoring those who claimed the Apollo moon landings were faked and part of a colossal government conspiracy.

The claims and suspicious questions such as the ones cited here mostly showed up in books and on the Internet. But last year's prime-time Fox TV special on the so-called "moon hoax" prompted schoolteachers and others to plead with NASA for factual ammunition to fight back.

So a few months ago, the space agency budgeted $15,000 to hire a former rocket scientist and author to produce a small book refuting the disbelievers' claims. It would be written primarily with teachers and students in mind.

The idea backfired, however, embarrassing the space agency for responding to ignorance, and the book deal was chucked.

"The issue of trying to do a targeted response to this is just lending credibility to something that is, on its face, asinine," NASA chief Sean O'Keefe said in late November after the dust settled.

So it's back to square one -- ignoring the hoaxers. That's troubling to some scientific experts who contend that someone needs to lead the fight against scientific illiteracy and the growing belief in pseudoscience such as aliens and astrology.

Someone like NASA.
"If they don't speak out, who will?" asks Melissa Pollak, a senior analyst at the National Science Foundation.

Author James Oberg will. The former space shuttle flight controller plans to write the book NASA commissioned from him even though the agency pulled the plug. He is seeking money elsewhere. His working title: "A Pall Over Apollo."

Tom Hanks will speak out, too.
The Academy Award-winning actor, who starred in the 1995 movie "Apollo 13" and later directed the HBO miniseries "From the Earth to the Moon," is working on another lunar-themed project. The IMAX documentary will feature Apollo archival footage. Its title: "Magnificent Desolation," astronaut Buzz Aldrin's real-time description of the moon on July 20, 1969.

While attending the Cape Canaveral premiere of the IMAX version of "Apollo 13" in November, Hanks said the film industry has a responsibility to promote historical literacy. He took a jab at the 1978 movie "Capricorn One," which had NASA's first manned mission to Mars being faked on a sound stage.

"We live in a society where there is no law in making money in the promulgation of ignorance or, in some cases, stupidity," Hanks said. "There are a lot of things you can say never happened. You can go as relatively quasi-harmless as saying no one went to the moon. But you also can say that the Holocaust never happened."

A spokesman for the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington says there will always be those who will not be convinced. But the museum does not engage them in debate.

The spokesman acknowledges, however, that if a major news channel was doing a program that questioned the authenticity of the Holocaust, "I'd certainly want to inject myself into the debate with them in a very forceful way."

Television's Fox Network was the moon-hoax purveyor. In February 2001 and again a month later, Fox broadcast an hourlong program titled "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?"

Roger Launius, who agreed to Oberg's book just before leaving NASA's history office, says the story about the moon hoax has been around a long time. But the Fox show "raised it to a new level, it gave it legs and credibility that it didn't have before."

Indeed, the National Science Foundation's Pollak says two of her colleagues, after watching the Fox special, thought it was possible that NASA faked the moon landings. "These are people who work at NSF," she stresses.

The story went -- and still goes -- something like this: America was desperate to beat the Soviet Union in the high-stakes race to the moon, but lacked the technology to pull it off. So NASA faked the six manned moon landings in a studio somewhere out West.

Ralph Rene, a retired carpenter in Passaic, N.J., takes it one step farther. The space fakery started during the Gemini program, according to Rene, author of the 1992 book, NASA Mooned America!

"I don't know what real achievements they've done because when do you trust a liar?" Rene says. "I know we have a shuttle running right around above our heads, but that's only 175 miles up. It's under the shield. You cannot go through the shield and live."

He is talking, of course, about the radiation shield.

Alex Roland, a NASA historian during the 1970s and early 1980s, says his office used to have "a kook drawer" for such correspondence and never took it seriously. But there were no prime-time TV shows disputing the moon landings then -- and no Internet.

Still, Roland would be inclined to "just let it go because you'll probably just make it worse by giving it any official attention."

Within NASA, opinions were split about a rebuttal book. Oberg, a Houston-based author of 12 books, mostly about the Russian space program, said ignoring the problem "just makes this harder. To a conspiracy mind, refusing to respond is a sign of cover-up."

Apollo 13 commander Jim Lovell does not know what else, if anything, can be done to confront this moon madness.

"All I know is that somebody sued me because I said I went to the moon," says the 74-year-old astronaut. "Of course, the courts threw it out."

The authorities also threw out the case involving Apollo 11 moonwalker Aldrin in September.

A much bigger and younger man was hounding the 72-year-old astronaut in Beverly Hills, Calif., calling him "a coward, a liar and a thief" and trying to get him to swear on a Bible, on camera, that he walked on the moon. Aldrin, a Korean War combat pilot, responded with a fist in the chops.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: apollo; crevolist; fox; istheantichrist; moonhoax; nasa; rupertmurdoch; russia
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To: Tennessee_Bob
No, our lander's base was left behind.
61 posted on 01/05/2003 6:11:22 PM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: ContentiousObjector
Someone needs to post a pic of the "tourist guy" on the moon.
63 posted on 01/05/2003 6:12:51 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: NewLand
Let's start a conspiracy that Bill Clinton was a hoax and never existed.

Clinton started a conspiracy that the Constitution was a hoax and never existed.

Unfortunately, the media and the entire Democratic Party believed it.

64 posted on 01/05/2003 6:13:39 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee; ContentiousObjector
No, our lander's base was left behind.

Yes, I realize that.

Go to the link I posted, grab the footage for the ascent and post ascent and you'll see that the shots posted on clip one are shots taken by a camera that the astronauts left behind for exactly that purpose.

Or don't.

65 posted on 01/05/2003 6:13:49 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: ContentiousObjector
I vote we stuff Michael Rivero in the nose of an Atlas rocket with a head-sized fishbowl and a couple of tanks of oxygen and send him to the Sea of Tranquility to check out the "alleged" landing site personally. Give him a laser flashlight and he can blink back his findings in Morse Ccode.
66 posted on 01/05/2003 6:14:21 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: edwin hubble
This is tinfoil hat time... big time.

I'm willing to bet that most of those who doubt an event as well-documented as the moon landing will nevertheless quite easily believe that Noah's Ark has been found.

67 posted on 01/05/2003 6:15:19 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: BenLurkin
Ouch
68 posted on 01/05/2003 6:16:17 PM PST by Licensed-To-Carry
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To: Crusader21stCentury
I think it is even simpler than that. I think the astronauts left laser corner reflectors at each of the landing sites. Unless some kind of dust adheres to the mirrors, they should still work. Just zap them from the surface and watch them blink back.
69 posted on 01/05/2003 6:16:45 PM PST by c-five
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To: rovenstinez
"Make another trip, write graffitti on some rocks in large letters, big enough for little boys and girls to see with binoculars, and no one will question it again."

Such as "Cha"?

70 posted on 01/05/2003 6:16:47 PM PST by shadowman99
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To: PatrickHenry
It's only fair. Many of the most zealous believers in an actual moon-landing believe in the magic of mindless, directionless Darwinian evolution.

There are many varieties of fools. Never discount well-educated fools.

71 posted on 01/05/2003 6:18:03 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); Inspector Harry Callahan
Too bad they've both been banned, because they could have added some levity to the conversation. 8^)

Rivero was banned. Inspector Callahan is still with us, though he hasn't posted since mid-November.

I'll ping him.

72 posted on 01/05/2003 6:18:51 PM PST by dighton
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To: ContentiousObjector
NASA could destroy the hoax theory by returning to the moon. Maybe that's too simple. Let's have a Congressional hearing instead.
73 posted on 01/05/2003 6:19:02 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: edwin hubble
If I was a liberal and this was DU, I would say yes, but then again, those idiots think Paul Wellstone was murdered. The scariest thing to me, is that something like 1 in 4 americans don't think we landed on the moon. If NASA had been privatized years ago, we would probably have regular shuttles back and forth from mars by now.
74 posted on 01/05/2003 6:20:13 PM PST by Sonny M
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To: c-five
http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEhelp/ApolloLaser.html

Yep, here you go!
75 posted on 01/05/2003 6:20:33 PM PST by c-five
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To: Tennessee_Bob
They are similar, but I don't see anywhere in the footage where a picture is taken from the distance in the first picture, and the image quality and color seems differant in these ones.

Maybe your right, but the Russian video I captured those images from id's them as I wrote.

77 posted on 01/05/2003 6:22:52 PM PST by ContentiousObjector
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To: JesseShurun
If the Hubble can't see it, how could the lesser ones? Armstrong is an engineer and I believe he is an honorable man. I for one would like to hear it all from him.

The moon is too far away, and the landing modules too small, to show up with usable resolution on any telescope currently in existence.

That mankind has planted artifacts on the moon, however, may be proven with the aid of properly-designed terrestrial equipment since the astronauts planted corner reflector modules at the landing sights. Point a good laser at a landing sight and it will yield a measurable reflection. Point it elsewhere at the moon and it won't.

79 posted on 01/05/2003 6:23:37 PM PST by supercat
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To: ContentiousObjector
bump
80 posted on 01/05/2003 6:26:35 PM PST by snowstorm12
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