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NASA Unsure of How to Counter the 'Moon Hoax'
The Associated Press ^ | January 5th 2003 | MARCIA DUNN

Posted on 01/05/2003 5:06:37 PM PST by ContentiousObjector

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Is that the moon or a studio in the Nevada desert? How can the flag flutter when there's no wind on the moon? Why can't we see stars in the moon-landing pictures?

For three decades, NASA has taken the high road, ignoring those who claimed the Apollo moon landings were faked and part of a colossal government conspiracy.

The claims and suspicious questions such as the ones cited here mostly showed up in books and on the Internet. But last year's prime-time Fox TV special on the so-called "moon hoax" prompted schoolteachers and others to plead with NASA for factual ammunition to fight back.

So a few months ago, the space agency budgeted $15,000 to hire a former rocket scientist and author to produce a small book refuting the disbelievers' claims. It would be written primarily with teachers and students in mind.

The idea backfired, however, embarrassing the space agency for responding to ignorance, and the book deal was chucked.

"The issue of trying to do a targeted response to this is just lending credibility to something that is, on its face, asinine," NASA chief Sean O'Keefe said in late November after the dust settled.

So it's back to square one -- ignoring the hoaxers. That's troubling to some scientific experts who contend that someone needs to lead the fight against scientific illiteracy and the growing belief in pseudoscience such as aliens and astrology.

Someone like NASA.
"If they don't speak out, who will?" asks Melissa Pollak, a senior analyst at the National Science Foundation.

Author James Oberg will. The former space shuttle flight controller plans to write the book NASA commissioned from him even though the agency pulled the plug. He is seeking money elsewhere. His working title: "A Pall Over Apollo."

Tom Hanks will speak out, too.
The Academy Award-winning actor, who starred in the 1995 movie "Apollo 13" and later directed the HBO miniseries "From the Earth to the Moon," is working on another lunar-themed project. The IMAX documentary will feature Apollo archival footage. Its title: "Magnificent Desolation," astronaut Buzz Aldrin's real-time description of the moon on July 20, 1969.

While attending the Cape Canaveral premiere of the IMAX version of "Apollo 13" in November, Hanks said the film industry has a responsibility to promote historical literacy. He took a jab at the 1978 movie "Capricorn One," which had NASA's first manned mission to Mars being faked on a sound stage.

"We live in a society where there is no law in making money in the promulgation of ignorance or, in some cases, stupidity," Hanks said. "There are a lot of things you can say never happened. You can go as relatively quasi-harmless as saying no one went to the moon. But you also can say that the Holocaust never happened."

A spokesman for the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington says there will always be those who will not be convinced. But the museum does not engage them in debate.

The spokesman acknowledges, however, that if a major news channel was doing a program that questioned the authenticity of the Holocaust, "I'd certainly want to inject myself into the debate with them in a very forceful way."

Television's Fox Network was the moon-hoax purveyor. In February 2001 and again a month later, Fox broadcast an hourlong program titled "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?"

Roger Launius, who agreed to Oberg's book just before leaving NASA's history office, says the story about the moon hoax has been around a long time. But the Fox show "raised it to a new level, it gave it legs and credibility that it didn't have before."

Indeed, the National Science Foundation's Pollak says two of her colleagues, after watching the Fox special, thought it was possible that NASA faked the moon landings. "These are people who work at NSF," she stresses.

The story went -- and still goes -- something like this: America was desperate to beat the Soviet Union in the high-stakes race to the moon, but lacked the technology to pull it off. So NASA faked the six manned moon landings in a studio somewhere out West.

Ralph Rene, a retired carpenter in Passaic, N.J., takes it one step farther. The space fakery started during the Gemini program, according to Rene, author of the 1992 book, NASA Mooned America!

"I don't know what real achievements they've done because when do you trust a liar?" Rene says. "I know we have a shuttle running right around above our heads, but that's only 175 miles up. It's under the shield. You cannot go through the shield and live."

He is talking, of course, about the radiation shield.

Alex Roland, a NASA historian during the 1970s and early 1980s, says his office used to have "a kook drawer" for such correspondence and never took it seriously. But there were no prime-time TV shows disputing the moon landings then -- and no Internet.

Still, Roland would be inclined to "just let it go because you'll probably just make it worse by giving it any official attention."

Within NASA, opinions were split about a rebuttal book. Oberg, a Houston-based author of 12 books, mostly about the Russian space program, said ignoring the problem "just makes this harder. To a conspiracy mind, refusing to respond is a sign of cover-up."

Apollo 13 commander Jim Lovell does not know what else, if anything, can be done to confront this moon madness.

"All I know is that somebody sued me because I said I went to the moon," says the 74-year-old astronaut. "Of course, the courts threw it out."

The authorities also threw out the case involving Apollo 11 moonwalker Aldrin in September.

A much bigger and younger man was hounding the 72-year-old astronaut in Beverly Hills, Calif., calling him "a coward, a liar and a thief" and trying to get him to swear on a Bible, on camera, that he walked on the moon. Aldrin, a Korean War combat pilot, responded with a fist in the chops.


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To: afuturegovernor
Can't wait for some tin-foil-hat Freeper to get on this thread and claim the landing was a "big government" hoax planned by the CIA.

If we're lucky it will be a Frenchman who also denies that a jet hit the Pentagon on 9/ll.

21 posted on 01/05/2003 5:32:59 PM PST by xJones
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To: ContentiousObjector
Why should the government spend $1 or one second to try to refute the claims of a collection of f'in crackpots? It is so easy to show.

Facts -

1) It takes very high gain antennas to hear a signal from the moon.

2) A dish antenna is the most often used for this purpose.

3) Dish antennas are EXTREMELY DIRECTIONAL!

4) The only way you can hear signals from the moon is to point said directional dish at the friggin moon.

Now just where else would the signals come from?

There are numerous other proofs but to spend ANY time further is to suffer fools. I do not suffer fools well, nor should those that spend my hard f'in earned money!

22 posted on 01/05/2003 5:33:28 PM PST by lawdude
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To: DCPatriot
The shuttle isn't powerful enough to leave earths orbit, however the Soviet shuttle is, unfortunetly the Soviets abandoned their shuttle program when it became clear we were not using the shuttle as a weapons platform
23 posted on 01/05/2003 5:34:51 PM PST by ContentiousObjector
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To: jeremiah
So where did it convey the heat to, since a vacuum is non-concuctive?

It radiates away, into space, as does energy from the sun. (How do you think the sun warms the earth?)

24 posted on 01/05/2003 5:35:03 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: ContentiousObjector
This sounds like a RAEL Probem!!
25 posted on 01/05/2003 5:35:42 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: ContentiousObjector
These are pictures of the Apollo 17 Landing Site taken by the Soviet Lunar rover Lunokhod 2

No, I don't think so.

26 posted on 01/05/2003 5:40:21 PM PST by Black Powder
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To: PatrickHenry
But the radiation coming from the sun, strikes the Earth causing the heating of the planet. It does not cool the sun though.
27 posted on 01/05/2003 5:42:01 PM PST by jeremiah
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To: BenLurkin
Make another trip, write graffitti on some rocks in large letters, big enough for little boys and girls to see with binoculars, and no one will question it again.
28 posted on 01/05/2003 5:42:21 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: ContentiousObjector; Taxman
We're building a Space Shuttle and Taxman is going to be the crew chief!

I'm not kidding, and its no hoax!

Really, here...

29 posted on 01/05/2003 5:42:44 PM PST by abner
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To: afuturegovernor
The landing was a "big government" hoax planned by the CIA.
30 posted on 01/05/2003 5:44:09 PM PST by Davea
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To: ContentiousObjector
Maybe we could send Ted Copple and some other news twits on a one way ride to prove to them that it can be done.
31 posted on 01/05/2003 5:44:31 PM PST by Newbomb Turk
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To: ContentiousObjector
How can the flag flutter when there's no wind on the moon?

It didn't. It only appeared to when:

1. The astronauts were setting it up because they were wobbling it (and it was wiggling on the stiff wire they had sewn into the top edge so that it would actually stand out straight instead of hanging limp).

2. When the astronauts blasted off to come back home because the exhaust from the upper stage of the lunar module provided a momentary "wind" (consisting of the exhaust gases themselves).

Why can't we see stars in the moon-landing pictures?

For the same reason you can't see them in night-time photos of a brightly lit parking lot taken here on Earth -- the stars are faint enough that they don't register on a short-duration photo exposure. If the astronauts had kept the camera shutter open long enough for the stars to show up, the brightly lit objects on the moon's surface would have been vastly overexposed.

32 posted on 01/05/2003 5:44:45 PM PST by Dan Day
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To: ContentiousObjector
I heard today that the Soviet shuttle is up for sale and can be had for approximately 6 million dollars. I think that is a bargain.
33 posted on 01/05/2003 5:45:20 PM PST by abner
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To: JesseShurun
Couldn't the people that believe that its a moo hoax just buy telescopes, and ask NASA where to look?
34 posted on 01/05/2003 5:46:13 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: ContentiousObjector
>>...NASA Unsure of How to Counter the 'Moon Hoax'..<<

Go back and take some of the naysayers with them.

35 posted on 01/05/2003 5:46:50 PM PST by FReepaholic
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To: ContentiousObjector
Hubbel WFPC2

You might want to check out The Wide Field Planetary Camera 2.
36 posted on 01/05/2003 5:47:19 PM PST by Crusader21stCentury
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To: jeremiah
But the radiation coming from the sun, strikes the Earth causing the heating of the planet. It does not cool the sun though.

It's irrelevant that it strikes the earth. I only mentioned that so you might see that radiation leaves the sun and travels through the vacuum of space. If the sun stopped burning, it would cool off because its heat would radiate away.

37 posted on 01/05/2003 5:48:07 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: afuturegovernor
Can't wait for some tin-foil-hat Freeper to get on this thread and claim the landing was a "big government" hoax planned by the CIA.

Not sure if Michael Rivera ever had a stand on the moonlanding, which would be surprising since he believed everything else that's happened since Pearl Harbor was a conspiracy. But if IIRC, Inspector Harry Callahan believed it was a hoax.

Too bad they've both been banned, because they could have added some levity to the conversation. 8^)

38 posted on 01/05/2003 5:48:21 PM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore)
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To: Frohickey
If the Hubble can't see it, how could the lesser ones? Armstrong is an engineer and I believe he is an honorable man. I for one would like to hear it all from him.
39 posted on 01/05/2003 5:50:06 PM PST by JesseShurun
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To: ContentiousObjector
Can't NASA just offer these skeptics a one way trip to the moon, so we can be rid of them? Shouldn't be too expensive -- after all there'd be no need for spacesuits, oxygen supply, heat shields, navigation computers, etc., since the passengers are convinced the space vehicles don't leave the earth anyway. Then train a live TV camera on these nuts as they're led up the elevator to get in the capsule, so when said nuts balk at climbing into a capsule atop a rocket, with no space survival supplies, the whole world can see and hear what idiots they are. Don't think we'd have any more takers for this particular brand of lunacy for a while. And if they don't balk? Launch 'em anyway!
40 posted on 01/05/2003 5:50:24 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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