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NASA Unsure of How to Counter the 'Moon Hoax'
The Associated Press ^ | January 5th 2003 | MARCIA DUNN

Posted on 01/05/2003 5:06:37 PM PST by ContentiousObjector

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Is that the moon or a studio in the Nevada desert? How can the flag flutter when there's no wind on the moon? Why can't we see stars in the moon-landing pictures?

For three decades, NASA has taken the high road, ignoring those who claimed the Apollo moon landings were faked and part of a colossal government conspiracy.

The claims and suspicious questions such as the ones cited here mostly showed up in books and on the Internet. But last year's prime-time Fox TV special on the so-called "moon hoax" prompted schoolteachers and others to plead with NASA for factual ammunition to fight back.

So a few months ago, the space agency budgeted $15,000 to hire a former rocket scientist and author to produce a small book refuting the disbelievers' claims. It would be written primarily with teachers and students in mind.

The idea backfired, however, embarrassing the space agency for responding to ignorance, and the book deal was chucked.

"The issue of trying to do a targeted response to this is just lending credibility to something that is, on its face, asinine," NASA chief Sean O'Keefe said in late November after the dust settled.

So it's back to square one -- ignoring the hoaxers. That's troubling to some scientific experts who contend that someone needs to lead the fight against scientific illiteracy and the growing belief in pseudoscience such as aliens and astrology.

Someone like NASA.
"If they don't speak out, who will?" asks Melissa Pollak, a senior analyst at the National Science Foundation.

Author James Oberg will. The former space shuttle flight controller plans to write the book NASA commissioned from him even though the agency pulled the plug. He is seeking money elsewhere. His working title: "A Pall Over Apollo."

Tom Hanks will speak out, too.
The Academy Award-winning actor, who starred in the 1995 movie "Apollo 13" and later directed the HBO miniseries "From the Earth to the Moon," is working on another lunar-themed project. The IMAX documentary will feature Apollo archival footage. Its title: "Magnificent Desolation," astronaut Buzz Aldrin's real-time description of the moon on July 20, 1969.

While attending the Cape Canaveral premiere of the IMAX version of "Apollo 13" in November, Hanks said the film industry has a responsibility to promote historical literacy. He took a jab at the 1978 movie "Capricorn One," which had NASA's first manned mission to Mars being faked on a sound stage.

"We live in a society where there is no law in making money in the promulgation of ignorance or, in some cases, stupidity," Hanks said. "There are a lot of things you can say never happened. You can go as relatively quasi-harmless as saying no one went to the moon. But you also can say that the Holocaust never happened."

A spokesman for the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington says there will always be those who will not be convinced. But the museum does not engage them in debate.

The spokesman acknowledges, however, that if a major news channel was doing a program that questioned the authenticity of the Holocaust, "I'd certainly want to inject myself into the debate with them in a very forceful way."

Television's Fox Network was the moon-hoax purveyor. In February 2001 and again a month later, Fox broadcast an hourlong program titled "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?"

Roger Launius, who agreed to Oberg's book just before leaving NASA's history office, says the story about the moon hoax has been around a long time. But the Fox show "raised it to a new level, it gave it legs and credibility that it didn't have before."

Indeed, the National Science Foundation's Pollak says two of her colleagues, after watching the Fox special, thought it was possible that NASA faked the moon landings. "These are people who work at NSF," she stresses.

The story went -- and still goes -- something like this: America was desperate to beat the Soviet Union in the high-stakes race to the moon, but lacked the technology to pull it off. So NASA faked the six manned moon landings in a studio somewhere out West.

Ralph Rene, a retired carpenter in Passaic, N.J., takes it one step farther. The space fakery started during the Gemini program, according to Rene, author of the 1992 book, NASA Mooned America!

"I don't know what real achievements they've done because when do you trust a liar?" Rene says. "I know we have a shuttle running right around above our heads, but that's only 175 miles up. It's under the shield. You cannot go through the shield and live."

He is talking, of course, about the radiation shield.

Alex Roland, a NASA historian during the 1970s and early 1980s, says his office used to have "a kook drawer" for such correspondence and never took it seriously. But there were no prime-time TV shows disputing the moon landings then -- and no Internet.

Still, Roland would be inclined to "just let it go because you'll probably just make it worse by giving it any official attention."

Within NASA, opinions were split about a rebuttal book. Oberg, a Houston-based author of 12 books, mostly about the Russian space program, said ignoring the problem "just makes this harder. To a conspiracy mind, refusing to respond is a sign of cover-up."

Apollo 13 commander Jim Lovell does not know what else, if anything, can be done to confront this moon madness.

"All I know is that somebody sued me because I said I went to the moon," says the 74-year-old astronaut. "Of course, the courts threw it out."

The authorities also threw out the case involving Apollo 11 moonwalker Aldrin in September.

A much bigger and younger man was hounding the 72-year-old astronaut in Beverly Hills, Calif., calling him "a coward, a liar and a thief" and trying to get him to swear on a Bible, on camera, that he walked on the moon. Aldrin, a Korean War combat pilot, responded with a fist in the chops.


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KEYWORDS: apollo; crevolist; fox; istheantichrist; moonhoax; nasa; rupertmurdoch; russia
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To: PatrickHenry
Science Bump
2 posted on 01/05/2003 5:11:10 PM PST by ContentiousObjector
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To: ContentiousObjector
My advice to NASA is to ignore this nonsense. The only people who belive it, ironically, are the same types that fall for this:

3 posted on 01/05/2003 5:13:30 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: ContentiousObjector
Some people are complete morons. They form the core of the democrat electoral base (especially in Florida).
4 posted on 01/05/2003 5:14:25 PM PST by friendly
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To: ContentiousObjector
The VLT will take care of that for them..

No need to answer the wackos.

5 posted on 01/05/2003 5:20:04 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: ContentiousObjector
There have been some excellent books put out by free lancers. Why does the AP want an 'official' response.
6 posted on 01/05/2003 5:20:43 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: ContentiousObjector
Can't wait for some tin-foil-hat Freeper to get on this thread and claim the landing was a "big government" hoax planned by the CIA.
7 posted on 01/05/2003 5:22:25 PM PST by afuturegovernor
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To: ContentiousObjector
"A Pall Over Apollo" ....only a title committee would love that one.

Can hardly believe this story is still out there. Boy, it sure is easy to hurt the tender egos of these old f@rts.

8 posted on 01/05/2003 5:22:26 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: ContentiousObjector
They can bring out Neil Armstrong to answer any and all questions on Cspan, it's that simple.
9 posted on 01/05/2003 5:23:01 PM PST by JesseShurun
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; *crevo_list; RadioAstronomer; Scully; Piltdown_Woman; ...
Massive kook alert!

[This ping list for the evolution -- not creationism -- side of evolution threads, and sometimes for other science topics. To be included, or dropped, let me know via freepmail.]

10 posted on 01/05/2003 5:27:04 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: ContentiousObjector
"He took a jab at the 1978 movie "Capricorn One," which had NASA's first manned mission to Mars being faked on a sound stage."

Didn't O.J. Simpson star in "Capricorn One?"
11 posted on 01/05/2003 5:27:47 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: ContentiousObjector
It's very simple, point the hubbel towards the landing sites and take some pictures.
12 posted on 01/05/2003 5:28:22 PM PST by Crusader21stCentury
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To: JesseShurun
Won't have him around to do it much longer, so they'd better get to it. Like WWII vets, Gemini and Apollo astronauts are collectively aging, aging, aging away from us.

Doesn't ANYBODY have a NASA/spaceflight ping list? If so, I want to be on it.
13 posted on 01/05/2003 5:28:26 PM PST by ChemistCat
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To: ContentiousObjector
"Tom Hanks will speak out, too."

Well, thank goodness they have a REAL expert to refute the hoaxers...

14 posted on 01/05/2003 5:29:18 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: ContentiousObjector
Well, they could go up AGAIN you know. There has to be a value of sorts in installing satellite dishes and communications on the lunar surface.

If a 1960's moonship can land, you would think the Shuttle could orbit the moon as well as the earth. IMO, they can't because the landing was a hoax.

Of course, I could be wrong. ;^)

15 posted on 01/05/2003 5:29:58 PM PST by DCPatriot
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To: Crusader21stCentury
HST doesn't have the resolution to take pictures of the landing sites,
16 posted on 01/05/2003 5:30:35 PM PST by ContentiousObjector
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To: ContentiousObjector
They could counter arguments, the time tested way. Teach people to think above the moron level. For instance, I cannot understand how they kept the capsule cool. I know the pat answer, but since space is a perfect vacuum, and the capsule is under constant radiation, the interior would seem to be logically, an oven. Standard cooling systems, like refrigerator, only work by transferring energy, being there really is no such thing as heat and cold. So where did it convey the heat to, since a vacuum is non-concuctive? I don't believe we didn't go to the moon, but that is a question, that could be answered with a better teaching of physics. If anyone can explain the seeming paradox to me, please do.
17 posted on 01/05/2003 5:31:01 PM PST by jeremiah
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To: ContentiousObjector
Let's start a conspiracy that Bill Clinton was a hoax and never existed.

I wish it was only that easy.

18 posted on 01/05/2003 5:31:22 PM PST by NewLand
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To: Chi-townChief
Didn't O.J. Simpson star in "Capricorn One?"

Yes, but his best work was left on the cutting room floor.

19 posted on 01/05/2003 5:31:45 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: afuturegovernor
I cant wait to see how they explain getting the Russians to participate in the hoax
20 posted on 01/05/2003 5:32:31 PM PST by ContentiousObjector
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