Posted on 01/05/2003 12:47:04 PM PST by Mrs. Obelix
The latest insult to Islam comes in the form of a new book - "Islam Unveiled" - by Robert Spencer which rejects the thesis that Islam is a religion of peace or that it has been hijacked by a minority of extremists. It is open season on Islam in America.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailytimes.com.pk ...
On the other hand, throughout the Muslim world, it truly is open season on Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and others, who can be put in jail or to death just for practicing their religion in an Islamic country like Saudi Arabia.
If #133 is representative, then it makes more sense then all of your own.
Like I said earlier, make an argument or stop wasting my time.
But the current form of Islam will be destroyed. Whether it is by Muslims own hand or the hands of those defending morality is the choice of Muslims alone, which you very lucidly iterated...JFK
191 Incidents of airport profiling? Out of how many MILLIONS of people who went through security check points? Sheesh, anyone seriously interested in security would hope that these numbers were a hell of a lot HIGHER!!!!!!!
Same for the allegations of 224 FBI/INS/POLICE 'INTIMIDATION'. Can we say that the Islamic immigrant community has been insanely supersensitive to simple inquiries? And just how HELPFUL have they been to catching anybody? We all know that those numbers have been bordering on the big Goose Egg... ZERO.
And 315 incidents of HATE MAIL? Puhleeeeze! Hillary Clinton and James Carville alone writes more than that in one week against the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy she fantasizes about. And again, how much have their own pro-terrorist treasonous statements brought understandable condemnation down up these malefactors?
372 Incidents of 'Public Harassment' --Same questions as above.
And as for the allegations of property damage and assaults, I think it is safe to wonder where these are all happening. None reported here in Minnesota in the newspapers. But of course, maybe the newspapers are part of the problem, eh?!
People can worship cow dung for all I care, but Islam is a GOVERNMENTAL Institution, somewhat akin to Shinto, and by its very nature advocates the overthrow of the COTUS and the US Government.
Personally, I don't with to reconcile Christianity with the "modern world" To me, religion is supposed to be static. If it's not static then the winds of popular culture will destroy it.
I want the Muslims to respect the lives and religions of others and I don't care if it conflicts with their Koran or not. They are going to have to reconsile that aspect of it, isolate themselves or become martyrs. I think any reasonable person would assert that your right to religion stops when it presents a threat to others.
And they can either go along with this peacefully, as domestic Islam has done.. Or they can have it forced on them, as is about to happen to the Palestinians. I don't care which, but it has to stop.
As far as Islamic governments and foreign terror go, I can see why Islam is so attractive to tyrants.
You have a bunch of poor, uneducated people with a centuries long grudge on their shoulder.. Just prod them to anger and use "Allah" as a vehicle to gain power and wealth for yourself.
Yes, Thank you.. We completely agree.
I think this is completely reasonable, principled and constitutional. I am shocked to find that others do not. And, as you say, illegals have no right to be here anyway.
I think a great model for this was our dialogue with the Taliban. I am not a huge Dubya fan, but I think he handled that wonderfully. If you remember, it went something like this:
US: Give Us Osama, now.
Taliban: Nothing doing, piss off.
US: You had better give us Osama, or it's your @ss in the sling right along with his.
Taliban: So be it.
US: Okay. Suits us fine either way.
I thought that was the height of fairness. We got the job done and we did it in a principled fashon.
Only if using leg-hold traps. Otherwise it's like any varmint: no closed season, no limits.
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I don't care if it conflicts with their Koran or not |
But they do:
Islamic Law & its Challenge To Western Civilization
Islam is different from other religions in that it is not limited to the spiritual aspects of life. It engulfs all aspects of life from the cradle to the grave. Islam claims to have a divine mandate over everyone, and this includes non-Muslims too. While non-Muslims may not be required to observe the religious rituals of Islam, they must recognize the supremacy of Islamic rule over them. As an ideology, Islam promises an economic, political, social, and religious utopian world when the world finally submits to Allah and the rule of Shari'a law. The Islamic objective is to have all aspects a nation's culture and institutions undergo gradual Islamization to yield an Islamic state obeying Shari'a Law.
The primary source of Shari'a law is the Qur'an itself
The second source of Shari'a law is the Sunnah of Muhammad
The hadith (plural, ahadith) is a written record of the Sunnah of Muhammad. Ahmad Hasan wrote,
In fact hadith is the narration of the sayings, doings, and tacit approvals of the Prophet (peace be on him), while sunnah is the rule of law conveyed through the hadith. Hadith is a vehicle which conveys the sunnah of the Prophet. Hence one hadith may contain many sunnahs. Here sunnah means rule of law, practice, or model conduct of the Prophet (peace be on him), which is contained in a hadith.5
The six major hadith collections are Sahih Al-Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Sunan Abu Dawud, Sunan At-Tirmidhi, Sunan An-Nisa'i, and Sunan Ibn Majah. These collections are extensive works that preserve the details of the conduct and sayings of Muhammad. It can be rightly said that the ahadith contribute more to Islamic ideology than the Qur'an itself. So, they are vital sources to understand Islam.
Shari'a law6,7 is the key to understanding Islamic ideology, government, economics, and social institutions. It is the basis for Islamic fundamentalism's disagreement with Western thought, and it encapsulates the ideology of Islam that is found in the Qur'an and Sunnah. Shari'a brings Islamic theology down to a person's everyday life. The objective of Islamic ideology is to have all the people of the world governed by Shari'a law. Muslims believe this law expresses the universal will of Allah for humankind. They think they have an holy obligation to impose it upon all the nations of the world.
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