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To: BADROTOFINGER
We don't exactly agree here either.

Personally, I don't with to reconcile Christianity with the "modern world" To me, religion is supposed to be static. If it's not static then the winds of popular culture will destroy it.

I want the Muslims to respect the lives and religions of others and I don't care if it conflicts with their Koran or not. They are going to have to reconsile that aspect of it, isolate themselves or become martyrs. I think any reasonable person would assert that your right to religion stops when it presents a threat to others.

And they can either go along with this peacefully, as domestic Islam has done.. Or they can have it forced on them, as is about to happen to the Palestinians. I don't care which, but it has to stop.

152 posted on 01/05/2003 3:02:33 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Jhoffa_

I don't care if it conflicts with their Koran or not

But they do:

Islamic Law & its Challenge To Western Civilization

Islam is different from other religions in that it is not limited to the spiritual aspects of life. It engulfs all aspects of life from the cradle to the grave. Islam claims to have a divine mandate over everyone, and this includes non-Muslims too. While non-Muslims may not be required to observe the religious rituals of Islam, they must recognize the supremacy of Islamic rule over them. As an ideology, Islam promises an economic, political, social, and religious utopian world when the world finally submits to Allah and the rule of Shari'a law. The Islamic objective is to have all aspects a nation's culture and institutions undergo gradual Islamization to yield an Islamic state obeying Shari'a Law.

The primary source of Shari'a law is the Qur'an itself

The second source of Shari'a law is the Sunnah of Muhammad

The hadith (plural, ahadith) is a written record of the Sunnah of Muhammad. Ahmad Hasan wrote,
In fact hadith is the narration of the sayings, doings, and tacit approvals of the Prophet (peace be on him), while sunnah is the rule of law conveyed through the hadith. Hadith is a vehicle which conveys the sunnah of the Prophet. Hence one hadith may contain many sunnahs. Here sunnah means rule of law, practice, or model conduct of the Prophet (peace be on him), which is contained in a hadith.5
The six major hadith collections are Sahih Al-Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Sunan Abu Dawud, Sunan At-Tirmidhi, Sunan An-Nisa'i, and Sunan Ibn Majah. These collections are extensive works that preserve the details of the conduct and sayings of Muhammad. It can be rightly said that the ahadith contribute more to Islamic ideology than the Qur'an itself. So, they are vital sources to understand Islam.

Shari'a law6,7 is the key to understanding Islamic ideology, government, economics, and social institutions. It is the basis for Islamic fundamentalism's disagreement with Western thought, and it encapsulates the ideology of Islam that is found in the Qur'an and Sunnah. Shari'a brings Islamic theology down to a person's everyday life. The objective of Islamic ideology is to have all the people of the world governed by Shari'a law. Muslims believe this law expresses the universal will of Allah for humankind. They think they have an holy obligation to impose it upon all the nations of the world.

160 posted on 01/05/2003 3:18:58 PM PST by Remedy
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To: Jhoffa_
Ill have to respond later, but the discussion is a good one. Talk to you soon...:-)...JFK
164 posted on 01/05/2003 3:22:30 PM PST by BADROTOFINGER
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