Fox News to sue ex-'gay' activist? Bill O'Reilly engaged in heated debate with guest

Since O'Reilly is opposite Kudlow&Cramer I dont watch him much.

Big difference between being "anti-gay" and "anti-gay agenda." I think most conservatives are the latter, not the former.

I would definetely agree with this statement. More so, I consider myself anti-anything that promotes any culture as an exception over the rest of society. We are all individuals above all else.

O'Reilly, a Roman Catholic, called Bennett a "religious fanatic" who wants to "deny people rights" and suggested the minister wanted "all gays to go to hell."

Bowers v. Hardwick, 478 US 186 (1986) BURGER, C.J., Concurring Opinion

As the Court notes, ante at 192 , the proscriptions against sodomy have very "ancient roots." Decisions of individuals relating to homosexual conduct have been subject to state intervention throughout the history of Western civilization. Condemnation of those practices is firmly rooted in Judeo-Christian moral and ethical standards. Homosexual sodomy was a capital crime under Roman law. See Code Theod. 9.7.6; Code Just. 9.9.31. See also D. Bailey, Homosexuality [p*197] and the Western Christian Tradition 70-81 (1975). During the English Reformation, when powers of the ecclesiastical courts were transferred to the King's Courts, the first English statute criminalizing sodomy was passed. 25 Hen. VIII, ch. 6. Blackstone described "the infamous crime against nature" as an offense of "deeper malignity" than rape, a heinous act "the very mention of which is a disgrace to human nature," and "a crime not fit to be named." 4 W. Blackstone, Commentaries *215. The common law of England, including its prohibition of sodomy, became the received law of Georgia and the other Colonies. In 1816, the Georgia Legislature passed the statute at issue here, and that statute has been continuously in force in one form or another since that time. To hold that the act of homosexual sodomy is somehow protected as a fundamental right would be to cast aside millennia of moral teaching.

This is essentially not a question of personal "preferences," but rather of the legislative authority of the State. I find nothing in the Constitution depriving a State of the power to enact the statute challenged here. ++++"Rejuvenating Blackstone"

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Big difference between being "anti-gay" and "anti-gay agenda." I think most conservatives are the latter, not the former.

It is not a matter of being anti-gay, it is about morality. I am against anyone who tries to legitimize sin. Like it or not, some things are wrong whether or not a person admits it. I am also against anyone who tries to force me or my children to accept their immoral behavior. Homosexuality is a moral issue and will always be a moral issue no matter how much the gay propagandists try to equate it with skin color. You cannot force people to accept your moral view. Morality is a choice each person makes on his own. Homosexuality is a sin, and all attempts to force me to believe it is not will FAIL.

Let's see Bennet was in the interview which by common sense should make him a co- copyright holder as well if they want to look at it like performance art.

Fox is being stupid about this one.

He made some pretty heavy accusations of this man who is a former gay ministering to those who are still gay.

Courage support groups of men and women across the world committed to following the true teachings of the Roman Catholic Church and to being there for one another as we travel this road...

Courage is an apostolate of the Roman Catholic church whose purpose is to minister to those with same-sex attractions and their loved ones. We are the only such organization in the Catholic church approved by the Vatican. The following five goals of Courage were created by members when Courage was founded. The goals are read at the start of each meeting and practiced by every member in daily life.

Live chaste lives in accordance with the Roman Catholic Church's teaching on homosexuality. (Chastity)
Dedicate ones life to Christ through service to others, spiritual reading, prayer, meditation, individual spiritual direction, frequent attendance at Mass, and the frequent reception of the sacraments of Reconciliation and Holy Eucharist. (Prayer and Dedication)
Foster a spirit of fellowship in which all may share thoughts and experiences, and so ensure that no one will have to face the problems of homosexuality alone. (Fellowship)
Be mindful of the truth that chaste friendships are not only possible but necessary in a chaste Christian life and in doing so provide encouragement to one another in forming and sustaining them. (Support)
Live lives that may serve as good examples to others. (Good Example)

I am against anyone who tries to legitimize sin. Like it or not, some things are wrong whether or not a person admits it. I am also against anyone who tries to force me or my children to accept their immoral behavior. Homosexuality is a moral issue and will always be a moral issue no matter how much the gay propagandists try to equate it with skin color. You cannot force people to accept your moral view. Morality is a choice each person makes on his own. Homosexuality is a sin, and all attempts to force me to believe it is not will FAIL.

While I respect your view and opinion, you can't try somebody for sin unless it coincides with a U.S. law. Hate them if you want, despise their actions, but when the number of them that do not affect you at all live peaceful lives in their sinful ways, we must let them be. People can sin all they want, and if you believe in all of that, then enjoy the fact that they are going to spend an eternity in hell.

At the same time, when any group (within a group) makes their 'cause' center stage on the national forum, it drives me crazy as well. To all groups I say: Live your life as an individual, quit expecting preferential treatment, and keep sexual preferences in your own homes.

unless it coincides with a U.S. law

The penalties for violating sodomy laws in the USA:

Idaho, 5 years to life

Oklahoma, 20 years

Michigan, 15 years

Mississippi, 10 years

Puerto Rico, 8 - 20 years

Louisiana, 5 years/$2000

South Carolina, 5 years/$500

North Carolina, 3 years

Virginia, 1-5 years

Alabama, 1 year/$2000

Missouri, 1 year/$1000

Kansas, 6 months/$1000

Utah, 6 months/$299

Florida, 60 days/$500

Texas, $500

BTTT!

Maybe we should start calling him "Sandpaper" O'Reilly"??

Do you have to be anti-gay in order to be conservative?

"Anti" not in a hating of the person sense but yes conservative means both social and fiscal. Conservatism absent social moral construct is called Libertarianism.

That's the way I feel about many women's groups and religious organizations -- always trying to push their agenda on others -- but I don't hate women or fundementalists Christians.

That's good for you, but I see a lot of hatred against Christians.

unless it coincides with a U.S. law

Because of the nature of the crime, the penalties for the act of sodomy were often severe. For example, Thomas Jefferson indicated that in his home state of Virginia, "dismemberment" of the offensive organ was the penalty for sodomy. ⁷ In fact, Jefferson himself authored a bill penalizing sodomy by castration. ⁸ The laws of the other states showed similar or even more severe penalties:

That the detestable and abominable vice of buggery [sodomy] . . . shall be from henceforth adjudged felony . . . and that every person being thereof convicted by verdict, confession, or outlawry [unlawful flight to avoid prosecution], shall be hanged by the neck until he or she shall be dead. ⁹ NEW YORK

That if any man shall lie with mankind as he lieth with womankind, both of them have committed abomination; they both shall be put to death. ¹⁰ CONNECTICUT

Sodomy . . . shall be punished by imprisonment at hard labour in the penitentiary during the natural life or lives of the person or persons convicted of th[is] detestable crime. ¹¹ GEORGIA

That if any man shall commit the crime against nature with a man or male child . . . every such offender, being duly convicted thereof in the Supreme Judicial Court, shall be punished by solitary imprisonment for such term not exceeding one year and by confinement afterwards to hard labor for such term not exceeding ten years. ¹² MAINE

That if any person or persons shall commit sodomy . . . he or they so offending or committing any of the said crimes within this province, their counsellors, aiders, comforters, and abettors, being convicted thereof as above said, shall suffer as felons. ¹³ [And] shall forfeit to the Commonwealth all and singular the lands and tenements, goods and chattels, whereof he or she was seized or possessed at the time . . . at the discretion of the court passing the sentence, not exceeding ten years, in the public gaol or house of correction of the county or city in which the offence shall have been committed and be kept at such labor. ¹⁴ PENNSYLVANIA

[T]he detestable and abominable vice of buggery [sodomy] . . . be from henceforth adjudged felony . . . and that the offenders being hereof convicted by verdict, confession, or outlawry [unlawful flight to avoid prosecution], shall suffer such pains of death and losses and penalties of their goods. ¹⁵ SOUTH CAROLINA

That if any man lieth with mankind as he lieth with a woman, they both shall suffer death. ¹⁶ VERMONT

8. Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Andrew A. Lipscomb, editor (Washington, D. C.: Thomas Jefferson M emorial Association, 1904), Vol. I, pp. 226-227, from Jefferson's "For Proportioning Crimes and Punishments."
9. Laws of the State of New-York . . . Since the Revolution (New York: Thomas Greenleaf, 1798), Vol. I, p. 336.
10. The Public Statute Laws of the State of Connecticut (Hartford: Hudson and Goodwin, 1808), Book I, p. 295.
11. A Digest of the Laws of the State of Georgia (Milledgeville: Grantland & Orme, 1822), p. 350.
12. Laws of the State of Maine (Hallowell: Goodale, Glazier & Co., 1822), p. 58.
13. Laws of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia: John Bioren, 1810), Vol. I, p. 113.
14. Collinson Read, An Abridgment of the Laws of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia, 1801), p. 279.
15. Alphabetical Digest of the Public Statute Laws of South-Carolina (Charleston: John Hoff, 1814), Vol. I, p. 99.
16. Statutes of the State of Vermont (Bennington, 1791), p. 74.

O'Reilly is an arrogant and I will add ignorant man. His use of the English language shows he is not too well-versed in grammar and sentence construction.

His attack on the Holy Father last evening angered me a great deal. He called him a senile old-man and the two guests he had on the air at the time agreed with O'Reilly. No one, including O'Reilly, ought to speak so disrespectfully concerning the Vicar or Christ. Fame is the final temptation. When one surrenders to it one then takes the path to self-destruction. It looks like O'Reilly is on his way.

I am fed up with O'Reilly and am beginning to feel the same way about Fox News.

unless it coincides with a U.S. law

Lawrence v. Texas, 41 SW.3d 349 (2001)

While I respect your view and opinion, you can't try somebody for sin unless it coincides with a U.S. law. Hate them if you want, despise their actions, but when the number of them that do not affect you at all live peaceful lives in their sinful ways, we must let them be. People can sin all they want, and if you believe in all of that, then enjoy the fact that they are going to spend an eternity in hell.

Did I say try them? No. Did I say I hated them? No. This is typical of gay activists. Why do you build a straw man argument that I didn't make? Re-read my post very carefully and this time try not to assign views to me that I do not hold.

My point is simple and irrefutable: You cannot force people to accept warped morality. If gays want to have gay sex, go right ahead, I won't try to stop them; however, I will get fighting mad whenever they try to force me or my children to accept it through their political activism, legislation, school curriculum, etc. Got it?

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I do not listen to Bill Oreilly since I heard him say on the radio that Fundamentalist Christians were as dangerous as Fundamentalist Muslims. I am not making this up. He actually said this!!

"He's a libertarian who relishes the fact that he doesn't care what you talk about, but we have to have that right of free speech,"

Thomas Jefferson on Sodomy

Oh come on. Those laws are as outdated as Leno's jokes and would never stand up in the court. Let's not get into this too deep, but I know very few people that do not practice sodomy in their church and government sanctioned marriages. I mean, please...

Oh come on.

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