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Terrorism Expert: Kill Them Before They Can Kill Us
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 12/31/02 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 12/31/2002 3:09:11 AM PST by kattracks

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - One homeland security advisor to the Bush administration charged Monday that the U.S. could not rely on defensive measures to gain victory in the war against terrorism. Other experts warned that terrorists will attempt another mass casualty attack against the U.S. in 2003.

Dr. David Kay is a counter-terrorism expert with the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies (PIPS), which sponsored a seminar Monday on the success of U.S. efforts to respond to terrorism and to deal with future threats. The chief U.N. nuclear weapons inspector in Iraq following the Gulf War, Kay believes the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks provoked an important change in the attitudes of government officials.

"I think 2002 ... was the tipping point when the metaphor for dealing with terrorism changed from 'terrorism is a crime' and the appropriate institutions for dealing with it are the police, law enforcement, and the judiciary," Kay said, "to 'terrorism is war,' and the appropriate tools for dealing with terrorism as war are completely different."

Such a shift in mindset is absolutely essential, Kay warned, for dealing with a threat he believes is eminent.

"Although we have often talked in the past ... about weapons of mass destruction or mass disruption, chemical, biological," Kay recalled, "I think 2003 will see terrorists finally making offensive use of technology to do us great harm."

Because of the potential for that threat to become a reality, Paul Bremer, chairman and CEO of Marsh Crisis Consulting, said the U.S. must fundamentally change its primary response to terrorist threats.

"This war cannot be won on the defensive," Bremer said. "No matter how good we make our homeland security, there is virtually no way we can defend all of the targets that terrorists can come after."

A member of the Bush administration's Homeland Security Advisory Council, Bremer served as ambassador-at-large for counter terrorism under President Reagan after spending 23 years with the U.S. Diplomatic Service. In 1999, House Speaker Dennis Hastert appointed him chairman of the National Commission on Terrorism.

Bremer believes terrorists' motivations have changed over the past 20 years from attracting attention for their causes to exacting retribution and revenge for perceived wrongs. That, combined with the potential for access to weapons of mass destruction, means the U.S. must abandon any ideas of responding to terrorism as a law enforcement problem.

"Wait and respond is no longer acceptable," Bremer explained. "We have to move from 'wait and respond' to 'detect and destroy.'"

Because potential targets are unlimited, terrorists would only need to seek out a "weak link" in U.S. security to launch a successful attack. That, Bremer said, leaves the administration with only one option.

"We have to go on the offensive," he said. "To be blunt, we have to kill the terrorists before they come here and kill us."

Michael Swetnam, CEO and chairman of the board of PIPS, offered his assessments of U.S. efforts to accomplish that and other counter-terrorism goals in 2002.

"I think that we can give ourselves a full bevy of mixed grades in our war against terrorism," he said.

Swetnam - co-author of Usama bin Laden's al-Qaida: Profile of a Terrorist Network , and a member of the technical advisory group to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence - gave the U.S. the following "grades" for its counter-terrorism efforts:


"We have a mixed grade this first year of our war on terrorism," Swetnam concluded. "Unfortunately, we will probably have many years yet to improve upon these grades before this war on terror is fought to the point where we can feel comfortable again."



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1 posted on 12/31/2002 3:09:11 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Sadly he's right.
2 posted on 12/31/2002 3:11:32 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: kattracks
Such a shift in mindset is absolutely essential, Kay warned, for dealing with a threat he believes is eminent.

I wonder every time I see that word "eminent" do they mean "imminent" as in immediate, or as in the way the spelling implies "eminence" referring to dignified, royal or primary in nature.

Imminent means it could happen at any time. Eminent means highly prioritized, in this context, right?

English majors?
3 posted on 12/31/2002 3:16:46 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: kattracks
Just a reminder to my fellow FReepers....

Do not POST any MILITARY INRORMATION you might have.. pass it on...

Link to reminder thread...

David C. Osborne

4 posted on 12/31/2002 3:27:19 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: Robert_Paulson2
I'm not an English major, but you've got it right.

FWIW, I think that Part II is imminent.

5 posted on 12/31/2002 3:29:12 AM PST by steveegg
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To: kattracks
Common sense. But the liberal do goobers will insist we understand the other side and attack the root causes of terrorism.
6 posted on 12/31/2002 3:29:15 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: kattracks; All
-All Terror, All the Time-- FR's links to NBC Warfare, Terror, and More...--

Jihad! Across the World....

The Web of Terror

-IRAQ- some links to terror--

7 posted on 12/31/2002 3:29:36 AM PST by backhoe
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To: kattracks
"We have to go on the offensive," he said. "To be blunt, we have to kill the terrorists before they come here and kill us."

He's got my vote.

8 posted on 12/31/2002 3:31:24 AM PST by blam
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Eminent means "distinguised." Imminent means "about to happen, threatening." imanent means "indwelling." From my college grammar handbook: Harbrace College Handbook. pub. 1977. V's wife.
9 posted on 12/31/2002 3:34:19 AM PST by ventana
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To: kattracks
The Jihadists do not fear us enough. We will have to lose quite a few more innocent civilians before we get "unreasonable" enough to strike fear in the hearts of the societies that harbor and spawn terrorists.

Until then, we will be the perfect picture of ecumenical peace and non-generalizing, walking around with a big "Kick Me" sign on our backs.

We didn't exactly drop flowers on the Barbary coast, on Dresden, nor Hiroshima, and somehow all that murderous retaliation did the trick. But,..we're so much more civilized now. (/sarcasm)
10 posted on 12/31/2002 3:41:39 AM PST by guitfiddlist
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To: DoughtyOne
"losing the propaganda war....hatred of Americans;"

how can you win a battle when you face an envy based hatred? Remember that sexy commercial "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful?" It was some hair or makeup product.

Some gorgeous babe-ette comes on looking all slinky and yummy and asks other women NOT to hate her...

IMPOSSIBLE. Women hate other women who they see as their betters, which makes them feel inferior, often angry and jealous. They see another woman in a sexy skirt, and whisper to their friend "look at that slut. Disgusting."

Men do the same thing in their own way. It's not just a gender thing. Muslims have some real hangups that precipitate this hatred of us, and they really cannot be cured anymore than a leopard can be cured by its' spots... well that is unless skinning is an option.

It makes no difference what you do they will still hate you because these muslims KNOW we are their betters culturally (of course). Their culture is a failure, for a very long time, stuck in the dark ages. And what's more their culture/religion guarantees that this can never change. Allah doesn't handle change very well, it seems.

It's not like we can become stupid or ugly enough culturally to make these folks like us. They LOVE the hatred like addicts love the needle. Without us to hate they would need to find new targets for their bloodlust, anger and angst of humiliation.

These muslims hate us because we are in a way, more beautiful. We have the beauty of freedom, choices they cannot make, and forms of worship they could never grasp in their culture. We have a very tolerant world view (as evidenced by their existence) and the wealths that only free thinking people can enjoy.

They hate us because our women are often beautiful, intelligent and NOT ashamed about it. They hate that we can drink two glasses of wine with a great meal, and leave it at that. They hate us for our demonstrable acts of self-control and restraint. Even though we don't always act that way, the ideal of it and often the actual doing of it, pervades our culture.

They hate us because we make them feel inferior. They themselves constantly whine about our "humiliation" of them as a culture... whilst they practice banging two sticks together, not loudly however, for loud noises and fancy music offend allah...

Basically, they hate america because every beautiful thing about her, is what they can never be, never have or even dare to want... it is against their religion to BE like us, and it drives them insane.

They cannot be changed. They cannot see reasonableness, because by and large that is a moral weakness in their faith. When a religion has as its cheif tenets, inflexible moral hatred of those who do not obey YOUR GOD... it's kinda hard to NOT hate those who are different, and more beautiful than you.

We cannot make them love us by being ugly like them. They will kill us if we don't kill them first. What else can we do? Sacrifice ourselves and our progeny on the altar of their hatred? I don't think so.

We are going to have to follow good advice by people who know and kill the bad guys before they do it to us. And that may be a very large number of folks. More than our religion finds tolerable. Maybe the arabs are right, perhaps our tolerance will be our downfall.


WIN.
11 posted on 12/31/2002 3:43:30 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: davidosborne
Do not POST any MILITARY INRORMATION

I know you mean well, but that typo makes you sound like Scooby Doo ;-)

I wouldn't post what I know here just because it would be a real pain in the @ss to have to hunt you all down and kill you afterwards...

12 posted on 12/31/2002 3:46:39 AM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: davidosborne
the british are coming the british are coming...

ooops wrong war.
13 posted on 12/31/2002 3:48:17 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: davidosborne
Did you see powell yesterday?

He said war is not imminent. Bush has apparently NOT made the decision yet...

oh well...
14 posted on 12/31/2002 3:49:32 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Robert_Paulson2

I disagree. The jihadists loathe Americans too much to envy us. Did Hitler envy the Jews?

15 posted on 12/31/2002 3:50:25 AM PST by fastdraw
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To: kattracks
Is PIPS affiliated with the infamous and loathsome IPS?
16 posted on 12/31/2002 3:52:37 AM PST by fastdraw
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To: davidosborne
Get it straight dave...

We don't HAVE any information.
and the Iraqis don't have any weapons of mass destruction.

and by the time we hear anything, it will be too late to discuss it anyhow...

if in fact we ever do hear anything, which is doubtful... which leaves us to meaningless speculation... as in, I chose christmas morning on the attack iraq thread.

christmas past that is...
so much for intuition.
17 posted on 12/31/2002 3:53:23 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: DoughtyOne
C- for 'Homeland Security' NOT giving direction/$$$ to state/local govts..... no doubt, it's because the feds want to be the ones who are in charge of the whole ball of wax.

It IS time for the idea of civil defense/citizen militias to take root and be in action. Long overdue.

18 posted on 12/31/2002 3:53:31 AM PST by mommadooo3
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To: fastdraw
yeah... he did...
he envied their wealth and power in europe...

envy is the motivation for much evil in the world.
envy and lust
envy and lust and bitterness
envy and lust and fear and bitterness

er uh... the list is pretty long.
19 posted on 12/31/2002 3:55:35 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Imminent means it could happen at any time. Eminent means highly prioritized, in this context, right?

Copy desk error. "Imminent."

20 posted on 12/31/2002 4:04:33 AM PST by angkor
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