[mikeb704]

The survey did find some comfort for traditionalists: 64per cent of those arguing against the idea of a virgin birth still believed in some sort of resurrection of Christ, whether physical or otherwise.

This is the silver lining? Good grief.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

[eastsider]

64per cent of those arguing against the idea of a virgin birth still believed in some sort of resurrection of Christ, whether physical or otherwise.

The apostles died proclaiming the physical resurrection of Jesus, not a banal "otherwise."

[aimhigh]

He declined to be named, saying: "I have a very traditional bishop and this is one of those topics I do not go public on. I need to keep the job I have got."

Not only is he a heretic, he's a coward. The scriptures are very clear on the miraculous birth of Jesus.

[ClearCase_guy]

Scripture does seem pretty clear on this. Are these wise men claiming that God is not powerful enough to perform miracles? Why do they call themselves Christian?

[niteowl77]

The survey did find some comfort for traditionalists: 64per cent of those arguing against the idea of a virgin birth still believed in some sort of resurrection of Christ, whether physical or otherwise. How comforting.

Others surveyed believe that Marxism will eventually work somewhere, Islam means peace, and pedophaelia isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[Grammy]

I guess more than a quarter of the clergy is not really Christian then. I have long contended that many of the clergy are there because they like pomp and ritual (which you don't get as a social worker) not because they are Christian.

[ex-snook]

"British clergy have doubts about virgin birth"

I have doubts about the British clergy.

[Dajjal]

heresy bump

[TLBSHOW]

they are all fakes and should be put out of the church

[Dajjal]

A real example for sceptics: St. Thomas the Doubter.

[Wings-n-Wind]

The last thing the angel said to young Mary was....

With God, nothing is impossible... (Luke 2:35-37)

Too many of us have responded, and their lives changed completely by the promises of God fulfilled in the testimony of Jesus Christ. We have seen not only the miracles of conversion, but healing and deliverance... just as he promised.. and had too many prayers answered NOT to believe-- just as it is written.

Perhaps these 25%+ need to consider another line of work.

BTW there ARE good things happening in the Church of England; thousands have come to Christ through the ministry of Nicky Gumbel and the ALPHA Course...

Regards & blessings...
Wings

[Marysecretary]

Well, how about taking a poll of American ministers? I'll bet a large majority of them don't believe in the Virgin birth either.

[Semper Paratus]

British clergy have doubts about virgin birth,

I'm having doubts about the British clergy.

[PRO 1]

That Clergy would have a problem reading scripture or believing what is written, is hardly supprising to me. When one has such problems they usually consult like ignoramases with like inability, reading their drivle as a "source for truth". *sigh*

[ConsistentLibertarian]

Three theses: (1) Mary did not have intercourse with any human being before giving birth to Jesus; (2) Jesus did not pass through Mary's vaginal canal at birth and consequently her hymen remained intact; (3) Mary never had intercourse with anyone after the birth of Jesus. All three have been affirmed by (some) Christians for centuries. But I take it that the point at issue here is thesis (2), not (1). Although it's hard to tell since people aren't always precise about making the distinction.

[The Iguana]

And the Anglicans wonder why their denomination is shrinking faster than cotton in hot water.

[aruanan]

The Rev Dr Keith Archer, of Salford, said: "It is not particularly important because it is a debatable translation of a Hebrew prophecy which first appeared in Isaiah."

You know, you'd think that something that was important to the first century writers of Matthew and Luke (and to Mary as quoted by Luke) would be important to 21st century people who claim to be Christian.

[MassExodus]

I need to keep the job I have got

Boy, what more needs to be said ?

[joesnuffy]

If they dont believe in the virgin birth then Jesus is not God but man only and born into sin making him a not perfect atonement...ergo his death and resurection void of pleasing God the faher...
And us....forever lost...except when it comes to putting money into the clergies pockets...then we have some use...

[ApesForEvolution]

Who cares what liberal-leftist apostate 'clergy' have to say about Christ?