[joesnuffy]

If they dont believe in the virgin birth then Jesus is not God but man only and born into sin making him a not perfect atonement...ergo his death and resurection void of pleasing God the faher...
And us....forever lost...except when it comes to putting money into the clergies pockets...then we have some use...

[ConsistentLibertarian]

"If they dont believe in the virgin [conception] then Jesus is not God but man only."

Note the principle: If you cross a divine sperm with a human ovum, you get a divine zygote.

One more principle: Unless you're want to plonk for the gnostic heresy, you think Jesus was both fully human and fully divine.

Now for two bits of biology: First it's possible for a women to impregnate herself with ejaculate. Second, human males involuntarily (and therefore without sin) release ejaculate at night while they sleep as they enter puberty.

Put it all together and an awkward but interesting question arises ...

What if some wicked woman snuck into Jesus's tent at night and scraped ejaculate off his sheets and impregnated herself with it?

Note that we can not rule out the possibility by appealing to the fact that Jesus was without sin, because the hypothetical above imputes no sin to Jesus, only the normal, involuntary biological processes of any human male entering puberty.

But if it is possible, would that mean there could be a fourth member of the trinity who, like Jesus, is the product of a divine sperm and a human ovum and therefore both fully human and fully divine?

And if THAT's possible, what if some wicked woman snuck into _his_ tent at night and scraped ejaculate off his sheets and impregnated herself with it? Would that make five members of the trinity?

And heck, what if, through a few dozen iterations, that's how some of us were conceived? Would that mean that we're divine, just like Jesus?

I don't know.

Food for thought.