Immigration: Where is the OUTRAGE??

The Sierra Times ^ | Dec. 20, 2002 | Jackie Juntti

[madfly]

I have been surfing the many news pages for months, and all the headlines, for the most part on a daily basis, mention the "War" in the Middle East. It is either Iraq, bin Laden, Palestine, Saudi Arabia or the like. Many articles about America going to fight over in that part of the world - the pretext being that we are fighting "terrorism".

I have yet to see headlines about the Invasion of America on our Southern Border. The SILENCE is deafening on this topic. The only time I read articles related to the Mexican invasion is when one or another ILLEGAL INVADER is spotlighted as not being able to get "instate tuition" at some tax funded school, or one of them needs very expensive medical care. All of this type of "news" coverage is based upon the bleeding heart mentality that we rich Americans should be opening our national door and bringing in all who wish to come and benefit from our years of hard work.

We have laws regarding "immigration" and we have a procedure to be followed to legally enter America. Many foreigners follow those rules and eventually are able to enter - legally - and then apply to become citizens. I welcome each and every one of those people. Members of my family originally entered America in this manner, coming in through Ellis Island. Another part of my family was here to greet them, as they were native Americans.

I can't fathom the silence of the media in reporting on the stealth invasion of America by all those who avoid detection at legal entry points. I can't understand why they are not making this a daily headline, with the numbers in bold print as they did during the Viet Nam war with the body counts.

I can't fathom why Bush, Cheney, Colin Powell, Ashcroft, and all those in Congress are not doing daily press conferences, alerting Americans to the invasion that has been, and continues to take place every single day of the year.

Where is the OUTRAGE they had following Sept. 11th? Do we need planes diving into buildings and fires raging in order to stand in front of cameras saying that AMERICA IS UNDER ATTACK!!!

Why are the leaders of this nation so silent on this INVASION at our Southern Border? What is the back room deal that has been cut to keep the Welcome Wagon Ladies standing there, tables heaped high with goodies paid for by the America taxpayer? Why are we not condemning Vicente Fox for sending in his stealth operatives as we condemn Osama bin Laden and his ilk? What is the difference?

We have almost daily "ALERTS!" about some threat of some kind from the "terrorists" but nothing about the INVASION of AMERICA from Mexico and elsewhere. Why is there such SILENCE on this matter?

Recently, Rudy Giulliani went to Mexico as a consultant to deal with the alarming crime rate there. In fact, he was alleged to be the target of a kidnapping attempt while there. I hope "dealing with the Mexican crime rate" doesn't mean sending them North to the U.S. Vicente Fox and his Coyotes have been doing that job already, and quite successfully.

I can hardly wait for Sen. 'Chatty' Patty Murray of Washington to hold a press conference exclaiming how Fox & Coyotes have built schools and all those same good things she is now applauding bin Laden for. Perhaps we will have Jim McDermott standing along side of her telling of his recent visit and how wonderful those folks are that just want to find a "better life" in America. Even better would be for all this to be "Bipartisan", and all those GOP politicians could stand with them pushing open the borders so everyone can have a miserable life when America is finally brought to her knees by the INVASION taking place before our eyes.

I am telling you, there is something mighty strange going on. America is being invaded and the leaders of America are pushing to open the gate even wider to the invaders. They have already granted AMNESTY to thousands and now want to grant more options for the last wave of invaders. They are keeping a lid on any news that exposes this invasion - twisting it to promote only the "plight" of those poor downtrodden ILLEGALS, so as to build up more bleeding hearts to open our homes to the invading troops. They won't even refer to them as what they are - illegal invading troops - they refer to them as "undocumented aliens" - that is supposed to make us feel sorry for them and to ignore the fact that our laws have been violated.

We also have George W. Bush - the president of AMERICA - opening the Social Security benefits to Mexicans. I guess welfare, education, health care, housing, unemployment, isn't enough. We need to send them SS checks too.

Maybe we should bring Rudy Giulliani back here to deal with the ALARMING CRIME RATE in the Federal Government. We have men in high places openly subverting American law and our Constitution. If nothing else, maybe Rudy, with his recent experience at attending funerals, could officiate over the death of America as we knew it.

Where is the OUTRAGE?

Bye, bye, Miss American Pie, Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry. Them good ol' boys were drinking whiskey and rye Singing 'This'll be the day that I die, 'This'll be the day that I die.'"

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[JackelopeBreeder]

Those who have excessive pride in their ancestor's achievements usually have few of their own.

That's a nice thought actually, though I do miss the old days. Wish I had my my ancestors' privileges -- I'd have more than a pitbull's cold wet nose for company at night. Not to mention the thrill of being called Earl, Baron, Count, etc. Don't know about you, Nic, but I've found that being related to the Plantaganets just does not carry much social cachet with these commoners anymore. What is the world coming to when rape, pillage, and plunder have no value?

[JackelopeBreeder]

Yo, go find a bottle of cheap mexcal and dream of better days, cabron.

[Missouri]

Try
http://web.uccs.edu/ur/mediawatch/Sept%202002/rckymnt_9_29_02.ht

for the Tancredo contractor story.
I hope I did this link right or the LOL's are on me.

[Missouri]

Lets try again.

http://web.uccs.edu/ur/mediawatch/Sept%202002/rckymnt_9_29_02.htm

[Missouri]

You know, this place worked fine til all you immigrants came in here tried changing the protocols.

I'm not trying to change the protocols just learn them.
Ok. Check Post #304 ( Post #303 was a learning curve error ) about Tancredo's contractor being duped.
I went to the Denver Post but the archieves go back only 2 months but I remembered it being in the Rocky Mountain News.
About the Mexican Nationals I'll admit I heard it on the O'Reilly Factor. Will give link another time.

Thanks for the challage. I'm not very computor savy but I'm working on it.

[janetgreen]

Come to El-Lay and see if it's an invasion. You might change your mind.

[4Freedom]

"Why don't you try using logic and reason to persuade, rather than resorting to hurling epithets?"

Do you recall the behind the back slurs, personal attacks and name-calling tactics you continuously employed despite my many requests that you knock it off?

Of course you don't. So, let's refresh your tiny, libertarian memory for the benefit of all.

To Ben Ficklin: "Matter of fact, most are equal opportunity haters--they'll hate anyone who is not a native-born WASP. Well, I suppose at least I'd rather the poison be spilled in public where it's obvious for all to see..."

57 12/21/2002 8:30 PM austinTparty

This was my response:

To austinTparty: "Why don't you have the guts to direct your race-baiting comments to the Freepers you're attempting to malign with them?"

74 12/21/2002 10:01 PM 4Freedom

Then you followed with another weak attempt to race-bait.

To 4Freedom: "Perhaps you'd care to explain just which of those rights or which color should be excluded?

86 12/21/2002 10:49 PM austinTparty

My response:

To austinTparty: "Who on this thread doesn't believe most of what you said about LEGAL IMMIGRANTS of any race or color, race-baiter? Name one Freeper! Go ahead, name one."

94 12/21/2002 11:13 PM 4Freedom

Did you ever name one Freeper on this thread that was against the legal or illegal immigration of any group because of the color of their skin or their race? Did you ever back up any of your slimey, behind-the-back, race-baiting accusations with a link to such a post?

Now that's what's really very ugly and serves to illuminate the lack of substance in your replies.

[4Freedom]

"Just for the record."

To 4Freedom: "The list could go on, but those who are anti-immigrant, not merely anti-illegal are glaringly obvious."

112 12/22/2002 austinTparty

Yeah, so "glaringly obvious" you never named one.

Yet another behind-the-back, personal attack by you.

To nicollo: "Lookie here: 'Their elected representatives are ignoring the wishes of the majority, but to their own peril.'

"A little bit just to throw some gasoline on the fire:"

"I suppose that means that according to the speaker of the above-noted sentence, we should have continued and enforced miscegenation laws. ...give me LIBERTY instead."

174 12/22/2002 11:02 AM austinTparty

Have no doubt that everyone on this thread knows you for exactly the race-baiter you are, ATP.

[4Freedom]

How about that, Joe? When nicollo wants to insult us he calls us "lumps of coal". I suppose that's a real insult in his mind, because coal is black.

Figures he'd show himself to be the real racist on this thread, if we kept him posting long enough. ;^)

[Republic of Texas]

Actually, I've heard plenty on this forum about illegal aliens of all races. I think the key is the word illegal. Illegal means just that. If someone is here illegally, they should be packed up and sent home, wherever that is, at their or their home countrie's own expense. That is pretty straitforward and doesn't mention race once. Race doesn't matter. Legal or illegal matters.

[madfly]

If you have to wonder where the outrage is, then you must conclude that this issue will not be the "make him or braek him" issue that some people in FR claim it will be for Bush's re-election.

I don't wonder where the outrage is on FR, as you should know by the Freeper Poll put up by JimRob earlier this month.

And I don't conclude that this will be a "make him or break him" issue for Bush's re-election, just that it SHOULD BE!. The fact that Washington is silent on the issue, (except for Tom Tancredo) especially Ashcroft, is unfair to the American Public. There may be different opinions on the problem, but to refrain from making any statements that there IS a PROBLEM is the same as lying to the American public, IMHO.

BTW, you sound like you are making a drive-by comment, on the TITLE of the article rather than any of the points made therin. This happens all the time from a certain group here, I have noticed.

Feliz Navidad

[4Freedom]

BTTT!

"...to refrain from making any statements that there IS a PROBLEM is the same as lying to the American public, IMHO."

Nicely said, Madfly.

Merry Christmas to you, as well.

[4Freedom]

"If you want to call me a race-baiter because I'm not a white supremacist, go right ahead."

No, I'm calling you a race-baiter, because you have continually resorted to behind-the-back, name-calling and personal attacks in your vile attempt to inject race into a civil discussion, of out-of-control legal and illegal immigration, at every turn.

You didn't even have the guts to copy me on your post #174 to nicollo where you called me a miscegenist.

A snake has more spine than you do.

[4Freedom]

"Waay too much emotion on this thread. My problem is with the hysteria."

My problem is it was your buddy Ben Ficklin that was hysterically race-baiting since day one.

"The Free Republic is the internet's premier "hate the mexicans" web site."

12 12/21/2002 12:33 PM Ben Ficklin

He evidently didn't even know that a 'Coyote' is a smuggler that smuggles humans.

"Tell me that the Fox/Coyote analogy qualifies for anything except the rhetoric of hate. If the shoe fits, wear it."

18 12/21/2002 1:13 PM Ben Fricklin

"...declining white birthrate and aging white population. All you knuckledraggers need to accept reality."

34 12/21/2002 4:33 PM Ben Ficklin

"A chicken processor who employed whites only would quickly go out of business."

76 12/21/2002 Ben Ficklin

"...the browning of America will continue. So if you, or anyone else, has a problem with mariachi music, lowriders, or spanish being spoken, I suggest you get some counceling and do what you can to get over it."

100 12/21/2002 11:39 PM Ben Ficklin

Ol' Ben Ficklin probably bit through his own tongue 6 times that day. He better invest in a drool-proof cover for his keyboard.

LOL!

[Paulus Invictus]

That's an exaggeration! How about it being a "hate illegal immigration" web site? How about it being a "hate the destruction of our nation and economy due to increasingly costly services to illegals" web site?

[B4Ranch]

I gave you a response to your personal accusations.
Are you intending to reply to my answer?

[Republic of Texas]

Only a liberal would dare show his face after a rebuke like that. I look for Ben to be back soon.

[Ben Ficklin]

Your question in reply #316 refers back to my reply #262, so I am not positive of what you are referring to.

[Ben Ficklin]

pukes, hate-filled, spewing, poisonous, slug(2 times), hating, back-bighting, sniveling, chicken weasel, snake, white hating(3 times), race baiting(20 times).

I hope you aren't going postal.

[4Freedom]

Ben solo, no. Todos 'Los Tres Libertarianos'! Ai-Ai-Ai-eeeeee!

LOL!