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Sen. Murray Praises bin Laden's Good Deeds
NewsMax.com ^ | 20/12/2002 | NewsMax.com

Posted on 12/21/2002 2:54:10 AM PST by DocFarmer

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To: thorninurside
ThornInUrSide,

Okay, fair enough. Now, how about doing the same thing on the comments of Sen. Lott at a certain birthday party a few weeks ago? He said nothing overtly racist, nor did he imply same - but the Lib/Dem/Soc/Commies and their cohorts in the media parsed and split every hair possible to destroy his career.

Sen. Murray did state that Osatan bin Lummox was/is a terrorist. That does not excuse the rest of her stupid and traitorous comments.

Sorry, friend, but that dog don't hunt here. Nice try, though. Many thanks.
41 posted on 12/21/2002 6:18:57 AM PST by DocFarmer
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To: thorninurside
From her later statement:

"While we continue to search every corner of the globe to destroy Osama bin Laden and his al-Quaida network, should we also consider the longer-term issue of what else can be done to improve relations with all nations including the Arab world?" Murray asked. "How else can we bring America's values to those who do not understand us?"

I believe we'll deliver those 'values' via B-52.

42 posted on 12/21/2002 6:21:14 AM PST by txhurl
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To: thorninurside
Murray stated in her complete speech that Bin Laden was a terrorist and an evil man. The gist of her speech was he's manipulated the ignorant poor people in Afghanistan to allow him to run his operations from there. Therefore, he's gained their support.

so? Lott was only complimenting an old fart retiring from the senate. Cant we hold democrats balls (yes, even liberal chicks have them i think) to the fire for comments that may or may not mean something?

43 posted on 12/21/2002 6:22:33 AM PST by smith288
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To: DocFarmer
When I read about this, I fired off a letter to the Seattle Times. Let's see if they publish it:

I have lived and worked in over 52 countries during the course of my career with various foreign affairs agencies. I was appalled by Senator Murray's comments regarding bin Laden, as quoted in the December 21 edition of your paper. Her statements were irresponsible; a slap in the face to countless numbers Peace Corps volunteers, U.S. Embassy employees, and specialists within the U.S. Agency for International Development who have dedicated their very lives to a cause President John F. Kennedy once called "the long twilight struggle for freedom."

For her to say, "He’s been out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day-care facilities, building health-care facilities, and...we haven’t done that," is pure tripe. bin Laden is nothing compared to what the United States has accomplished in providing famine relief, eradicating disease and pestilence, building schools, and providing clean drinking water to millions of people around the world. In so doing, industries within cities such as Seattle and Vancouver have benefited directly from the resulting foreign aid project contracts. She and her constituency have eaten well, slept well, and earned a good living indeed while my colleagues and I labored unseen and unacknowledged far from home.

In the rush to blame America first, Senator Murray has forgotten the high price paid in that long twilight struggle. As I write this, I am fighting back the tears, recalling the friends and colleagues lost I've lost over the years to senseless acts of terrorism. How could she be so ungrateful and insensitive? How could she be so ignorant? I would urge her and the students she addressed to visit the State Department building in Washington, D.C. Within the Diplomatic entrance, they will find a granite wall inscribed with the names of those who died in the service of their country, and in service to humanity itself. Many of those names are known to me personally. They fell while on the frontlines of the long twilight struggle for freedom. May Senator Murray never forget that.



44 posted on 12/21/2002 6:28:16 AM PST by PowderMonkey
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To: DocFarmer
clueless in Seattle
45 posted on 12/21/2002 6:30:31 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: thorninurside
ThornInUrSide,

Please refer to the Constitution statement above. Specifically "aid and comfort" to the enemy. Her statements provide that aid and comfort to terrorism in general, and bin Laden in particular. I think that's a pretty straightforward analysis.
49 posted on 12/21/2002 6:45:04 AM PST by DocFarmer
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To: PowderMonkey
My brother-in-law was a Peace Corps volunteer in the 1960s.

While there he met Chris Matthews and they became lifelong friends.

Gary died almost 3 years ago and Chris stayed with him for 2 hours shortly before he passed.

Murray insults all those young idealists who made a difference in the Cold War.

50 posted on 12/21/2002 6:45:33 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: wunderkind54
Let this woman talk...her views will only re-inforce the disdain more and more Americans have for the liberals

That's fine if people get to hear what she says. But if her stupidity is hidden by the leftist media, she can say whatever she wants and suffer no consequences.

51 posted on 12/21/2002 6:51:38 AM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: DocFarmer
I admit to being a slightly, involuntarily star-struck by anyone capable of being elected a senator, even democRATs. So, it comes as a relief to learn that, in spite of being a senator, MURRAY IS AN ABSOLUTE IDIOT.
52 posted on 12/21/2002 6:52:33 AM PST by Tax Government
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To: thorninurside
or just cute 8 word sentence knee jerk replies?

OK, here's your long-term solution for Muslims in general, not just Afghanis:

Air-drop free goats for the next 20 years in an appeasement effort. Pros: Next generation of Muslims - wherever - associate US with FREE BBQ rather than GREAT SATAN. Cons: We get accused of imperialistically trying to buy them off.

Allow any Muslim to freely emigrate and attend US college of choice AND extend generous SBA loans for the purpose of opening convenience stores or medical practices AND allow their children to practice their religion in our public schools even though our children can't. Pros: We get more Muslim immigrants. Cons: We get accused of siphoning off their best and brightest.

More?

53 posted on 12/21/2002 6:52:54 AM PST by txhurl
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To: DocFarmer
Nothing odd here, she's a Democrat. Just like Robert Byrd got a pass on his racially charged statement and his past association with the KKK. This stuff needs to be brought to the attention of all who try to pin this on the Republicans.
55 posted on 12/21/2002 6:56:06 AM PST by Flyover Country
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To: thorninurside
If you begin with the assumption that what Murray said was true, you may make a case for her defense, although praising the man who perpetrated 9/11 is, I believe, as stupid as anything Lott has ever said.

However, she claims that Bin Laden is responsible for building schools, roads, “day care centers (in a society in which women are not allowed to leave their homes without a male escort)?” and hospitals. She then compares this unfavorably with what the US has done, implying that we have not done this thousands of times over. I refer you to reply number 44 from someone who was there.

So, I am looking for some proof of the “good works” that Murray refers to as the reason why he is popular in the Moslem world. Then I am looking for proof that the US has not spent countless billions of dollars over the years helping the people in other countries. Perhaps she is implying that our foreign aid programs, the Marshall Plan, the Peace Corps were all fakes?
I’m sorry, in context or out of context, Murray is exhibiting her Left Wing – blame America first – bigotry.
56 posted on 12/21/2002 6:56:53 AM PST by moneyrunner
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To: thorninurside
ThornInUrSide,

No BS, just facts. Her own words -

"We’ve got to ask, why is this man [bin Laden] so popular around the world?"

"Why are people so supportive of him in many countries ... that are riddled with poverty?"

"He’s been out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day care facilities, building health care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. We haven't done that."

"How would they look at us today if we had been there helping them with some of that rather than just being the people who are going to bomb in Iraq and go to Afghanistan?"

"War is expensive, too. Your generation ought to be thinking about whether we should be better neighbors out in other countries so that they have a different vision of us."

Those kinds of statements provide aid and comfort and support to terrorist activities (and actors). It's no less than Bonior dumping on Dubya in Baghdad, or Hanoi Jane in an anti-aircraft emplacement.

There is no denying the facts, despite your boredom with them.
58 posted on 12/21/2002 7:01:18 AM PST by DocFarmer
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To: PowderMonkey
Outstanding! This deserves publication by every newspaper in the country.
59 posted on 12/21/2002 7:05:18 AM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Please accept my most heartfelt condolences at the loss of your brother-in-law. He, like many others paid the ultimate price for "making a difference," for bringing relief and enlightenment to millions sufffering in a world of darkness, oppression, and superstition. Be assured, his contributions were lasting ones. The contributions made by him and his contemporaries are why historians refer to the 20th Century as the "American Century." He will not be forgotten.
60 posted on 12/21/2002 7:05:49 AM PST by PowderMonkey
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